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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 05:02 PM
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60 Minutes: The collapse of US healthcare
 
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Healthcare in America: went from being insanely expensive and often ineffective...to non-existent.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 05:23 PM
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1. Godammit
This kind of shit has to end. Support HR 676
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 05:24 PM
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2. It's true. There is no help out there
Even if you are destitute and qualify for Medicaid (poor won't do it), then you have to bounce from doctor to doctor to find one who will treat Medicaid patients.

If anybody around you bleats about small government, point this mess out to them as an example of it: if they get sick, there will be no help for them unless they are rich.
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ckimmy57 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:35 PM
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6. It's sad but true
I've worked for a family practice Dr. for 21 years and he STILL takes new patients that are on medicaid (Ohio's public assistance) because these new young Dr.'s coming in will take them for a bout a year and then stop. I don't understand their thinking because I have LESS trouble getting medicaid to pay claims then I do commercial insurances and it's almost a guaranteed payment from medicaid and I don't have the bullshit of getting CT scans, MRI's or other tests pre-certed like commercial insurance.
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 05:47 PM
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3. It's an emergency
Americans need help, and every Republican is against it.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:16 PM
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4. God... some days I'm relieved my parents are gone...
It was horrible enough wading through the health care maize with their medicare and secondary insurance, plus my own ties to the hospital in which my Dad died. To think of dealing with this kind of crisis. I am terrified for myself and the family I have left. I guess we are all just supposed to die if circumstances prevent our paying millions in uninsured care. Heaven forbid if the subject of assisted suicide comes up though. "COmpassionate" conservatism dictates the suffering poor and middle class get no care, no help, but suffer to the max.
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digidigido Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:42 PM
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9. Compassionate Conservatism = Bullshit on steroids
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:22 PM
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5. I was truly devastated
by the segment.I was under the assumption that a hospital could not turn people away who had a life threatening illness.I could not believe that the United States of America would just let people die.I just could not believe it.What a sad commentary on what we have become.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:24 AM
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15. We are a 'for profit' nation.
If there is no profit in saving someone's life then why do it? Profit is all we care about. You are right - it speaks volumes about what we've become. Maybe I'm just getting old, but things seem more harsh, now, than when I was a kid.

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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 05:22 PM
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18. I concur
I don't think people care about their neighbors much anymore.It's all about me.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:39 PM
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7. If the nay-sayers that watched this don't get it now, they never will.
Edited on Mon Apr-06-09 06:52 PM by geiger
I heard someone the other day say, well, in Canada my friend says that her mother couldn't get in for care right away because so many people take advantage of the free care, maybe when they're not even sick.

Wait a minute, even if that is true, shouldn't we take care of people while they're still healthy, before they get sick.

And, in any event, the rich will always be able to pay for whatever care they need, because national health doesn't preclude an employer or an individual from going out and buying additional private care. And, in fact, in Canada that's what many employers do--pay a premium amount to entice the type of workers they want and need....
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ckimmy57 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 06:41 PM
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8. Broke my heart
this poor lady did....:cry: as did the rest of the horror stories that was on this segment. My husband and I are without insurance(due to the loss of his job) and he's a diabetic (not overweight), has high blood pressure and recently had coronary stents put in (and he NEVER smoked or drank his entire 61 years). He just had the bad luck of bad genetics. We just pray everyday we don't end up like the people shown.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 10:33 PM
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10. Medicare for all NOW!
NO insurance companies, thank you.

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Chisox08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-06-09 11:25 PM
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11. This is the main reason why we need universal healthcare
I don't care how much my taxes go up we need to get this done now. People are dieing and suffering in this country everyday, and the Republicans don't care. The greed of the elite few is hurting us all.
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quidam56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:35 AM
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12. We need a cure for health care in America,
http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 In East Tennessee, profit care comes before patient care.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 03:56 AM
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13. Everyone, please send this video to your GOP representatives
and tell them this is a voting issue for you -- you will NOT vote for anyone who won't support universal healthcare reform now -- starting with the Obama plan or whatever improvements Dems in Congress can put forward, but we have GOT to stop this cruelty or turning away sick people in need of healthcare!

Write letters to the editor and point out if our representative opposes healthcare reform (and therefore supports killing his constituents). Call the office daily. Stage protests and invite the media. This is what it will take. If there's a townhall forum, show up and ask them to support real healthcare reform, not bogus GOP talking points.



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nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:24 AM
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14. this is unconscionable...
In the city of gamblers, people have been left to gamble with their lives. Horrible.

We need a single payer healthcare system, something like Medicare for all, with no or low co-pays.
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MedioGringo Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:31 PM
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16. Won't happen...
Because we can't afford just to put everyone on Medicare. Cost is the real issue. And what Obama won't tell you, is that the only way all the other civilized nations get cost under control is by allowing the government to set prices for services. So not only would we have to get past the "socialism" barrier that would allow Medicare to run all health care in the US, we'd have to then get past the socialistic barrier of government price controls. You think the republicans are raising a stink now about simply having a mixed public /private system?

What's more palatable to the American people is a private NON-profit system with price controls similar to the one Germany has. Check out the Frontline documentary "Sick Around the World" for info on the various different systems.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 08:14 PM
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17. Dear God, there are no words
I sometimes wonder why I ever moved to this country.
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