Intern Killer Joe: We live in a bubble and rational fear justifies taking a chance on torture

[Amerigo Vespucci]

Run time: 07:24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpf_-AoFQG4   Posted on YouTube: April 27, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: April 27, 2009 By DU Member: Amerigo Vespucci Views on DU: 983

 

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough thinks it's a mistake to abandon President Bush's harsh interrogation techniques like waterboarding that many consider to be torture. Scarborough points to a Washington Post poll that says about half of Americans support the use of torture in some cases.

Morning Joe co-host Mika Brzezinski notes that Obama administration officials say that intelligence can be gathered without using torture. "What Robert Gibbs is saying on 'Meet the Press' yesterday, was that they don't know whether other means may be able to get the same information," she said.

"I'm not. Go ahead. Take that chance," scoffed Scarborough. "Sometimes you have a reason to be fearful," he said. "There is irrational fear and then rational fear. If you live in a neighborhood where people's homes get broken into and people get shot and killed at night and their items get stolen, and you're fearful that may happen to you, that's not irrational. That is fear and you will support a stronger police presence in your home. If this country got attacked the way it did on September 11th, 2001, it is not irrational for Americans to fear it might happen again when you have al Qaeda wanting to do nothing but kill all of us, destroy our cities."

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/scarborough-rational-fear-reason-torture

[HowHasItComeToThis]

1. THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT REMEMBERED THE INTERN

:evilfrown: :evilgrin:

[AlbertCat]

5. Joe should know...

If you work in Federal Building where interns are being found dead all the time....

[NBachers]

7. Everyone should remember Lori Klausutis

[ihavenobias]

2. I'm confused, I thought MSNBC was the most loony left liberal network ever?

;)

[Webster Green]

3. Joe the murderer is one of the reasons I cancelled my TeeVee service..

I would love to meet up with him face to face though. }(

[AlbertCat]

4. Ahhhhh.... logic!

If you live in a neighborhood where people's homes get broken into and people get shot and killed at night and their items get stolen, and you're fearful that may happen to you, that's not irrational. That is fear and you will support a stronger police presence in your home.


And of course torturing the neighborhood kids to find out if they saw anything!


(He has a police presence IN his home? Do they have kitchen rights?)

[Karenina]

6. This rationale is NOT going over big

across the Big Pond. Damn, ya'll just barely got out from under the rep of being the biggest shitheads on the planet. :freak:

[JDPriestly]

8. These are the same people who argue that you have to spank

your kids to make them behave and then wonder why the kids smoke dope or drink too much.

The Scarborough crowd only understands physical and emotional and verbal violence. That is how they live. And yes, I do live in a world without physical and emotional and verbal violence. That's probably why I have been happily (pretty happily) married to the same wonderful man for so many, many years. And Scarborough? Judging from the way he sarcastically dismisses Mika constantly, I would be surprised if he has any really loving relationships. (Although he may think he does, I seriously doubt that he knows how to have one for very long.)

Torture is wrong. And it does not make people cooperative. It does not make them want to let you in on their secret thoughts. You have to create a trusting relationship. You reward people for participating in that relationship.

Also, it is absurd to argue that a person who is holding another person prisoner has nothing to offer them to obtain information. How about better food? How about companionship? How about respect? How about an earlier go home card? There are so many things that can give an interrogator leverage.