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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:17 AM
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Psychiatric Drugs - An industry of death
 
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Psychiatrists are a bunch of modern day witch doctors and dope pushers!



pt. 7
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsuNFxVNxnw&feature=channel_page
pt. 8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUrQsqBbZtc&feature=channel_page
pt. 9
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHgGEcaZpqA&feature=channel_page
pt. 10
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EpJ9nYDjAU&feature=channel_page

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:31 AM
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1. Bookmarking for later. :)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:35 AM
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2. Can you give us the executive summary?
No video for us cube rats.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:25 PM
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7. Summary....

Stop taking your psych meds, and the world will make more sense to you.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:31 PM
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8. There's a link between mass shootings and prescription psychiatric drug use
6 million school age children in the US are on psychiatric drugs (Zoloft, Paxil, Wellbutrin, Luvox, Aderol, Ridalin, etc) for everything from ADD, bipolar disorder, depression, hyperactivity, etc. In the US there are more kids (and adults ) taking these psychiatric drugs then the rest of the world combined. These drugs have never been medically tested on children, and only limited testing on adults. The conditions are often misdiagnosed by doctors who receive a commission from the drug companies for every prescription they write. Most if not all of these alleged 'conditions' have been entirely made up by the psychiatric and drug industry and have no basis in medical fact.

- the shooters in the Columbine High school massacre were both on prescription antidepressant medication Luvox and Zoloft at the time of the shooting. Some of the families of the victims have sued the makers of these drugs.

- The Chicago Times reported the Virgina Tech shooter had a history of prescription psychiatric drug use.

- the Florida woman who shot her son in the back of the head at a shooting range had been a long time user of prescription antidepressant medication.

- the list goes on and on. the common connection between these mass shootings is, in almost every one of them the shooter has a history of prescription psychiatric drug use. the media receive billions in advertising dollars from the drug companies every year so they are reluctant to report on these linkages.

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:39 PM
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11. Uh, you're ASSuming the drugs caused the violence
and not that the shooters were crazy enough to need them in the first place.

I think the link is between a certain type of mental illness and shootings, not between an attempt to treat it and shootings.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:50 PM
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13. The Columbine shooters had no history of violence
they were never diagnosed as being 'crazy.' they were given these drugs to treat mild anxiety and stress. their friends and family noticed radical changes in behavior only after they were taking the drugs. which shouldn't be too surprising given that drugs such as Zoloft and Luvox are classified as mind-altering and addictive drugs.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:22 PM
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16. They'd been posting violent images on their web page
for a very long time, pre medication.

Do you have any idea how sick a kid has to be before the parents notice something is wrong and get him on those drugs?

Also, try to discover the difference between physical dependence and addiction. It's a big one.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:30 PM
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20. Don't confuse Correlation and Causation
As you certainly have...
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:41 AM
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32. In my observation, psychiatric drugs can be applied positively
And I know some people who I wish could have got them sooner.

I cannot comment on children. Thanks for writing.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:38 AM
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3. Need to come back to this. nt
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:21 PM
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4. Ron's Tech is here to rescue us!
A-R-C to everyone on The Bridge, and a big Tone 40 nipping pressor beam to the Psychs and the other minions of Xenu!

--d!
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zazen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:23 PM
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6. ah! you anticipated me! thanks n/t
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zazen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:23 PM
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5. trying to find out if this is from Scientologists
I read Thomas Szasz as a teenager and am all about questioning the establishment--but when something is this "well produced," I wonder if it's coming from the Scientology establishment. I can't tell from the youtube comments.

Any thoughts?
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:31 PM
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9. Szasz IS a Scientologist
He has been a reliable, uncritical mouthpiece for them since at least the 1970s. (Though I think there may be two or three mildly critical remarks that were "discovered" when the Co$ attacked the Internet.)

AND he's a big-time "Skeptic" -- go figure!

--d!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:21 PM
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23. Hey now nothing wrong with being a skeptic
I just demand evidence for things. Psychiatry has plenty of evidence. Scientology does not.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 05:19 PM
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26. Szasz is not now nor has he ever been a Scientologist or a member of the Church of Scientology
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 05:19 PM by bananas
According to:
http://www.szasz.com/enemies.html

Statement by the Owner and Producer of the Site

The following statement is intended as response to requests for clarification regarding Dr. Szasz's co-founding of the Citizens Commission for Human Rights (CCHR). Thomas Szasz is not now nor has he ever been a Scientologist or a member of the Church of Scientology.

Dr. Szasz co-founded CCHR in the same spirit as he had co-founded -- with sociologist Erving Goffman and law professor George Alexander -- The American Association for the Abolition for Involuntary Mental Hospitalization (AAAIMH; see http://www.szasz.com/abolitionist.html)

Scientologists have joined Szasz's battle against institutional psychiatry. Dr. Szasz welcomes the support of Jews, Christians, Muslims, and any other religious or atheist group committed to the struggle against the Therapeutic State. Sharing this battle does not mean that Dr. Szasz supports the unrelated principles and causes of any religious or non-religious organization. This is explicit and implicit in Dr. Szasz's work. Everyone and anyone is welcome to join in the struggle for individual liberty and personal responsibility -- especially as these values are threatened by psychiatric ideas and interventions.

Jeffrey A. Schaler, Ph.D.
Owner and producer of www.szasz.com
jeffschaler@attglobal.net
February 11, 2003


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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 05:38 PM
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27. Szasz IS an Atheist
From an interview this month:
Natasha Mitchell: Would you describe yourself as an anti-psychiatrist?

Thomas Szasz: Of course not, anti-psychiatrist it sounds like anti-Semite or anti-Christian or even anti-religion, I'm not anti-religion I just don't believe in it. Anybody who wants to have their religions—fine; anybody who wants to go to a psychiatrist—fine; anybody who wants to take psychiatric drugs is fine with me. That's why anti-psychiatry is completely inaccurate and I am no more anti-psychiatry than pro-psychiatry, I am for freedom and responsibility, responsibility comes first, people ought to be responsible for themselves and if they are not they should reap the consequences of it. I don't necessarily mean that we should be sadistic to them or punish them, but they should suffer the consequences. If a person becomes addicted to drugs he should suffer the consequences of that drug, because nobody made him take the drug.

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/allinthemind/stories/2009/2530830.htm


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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:44 PM
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12. There have been a number of reports in the mainstream media
about the link between mass shootings and psychiatric drugs.
Their results were pretty shocking:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHNJyti1gE&feature=related


Scientologists might have a weird religion, but they are right about this.


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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:26 PM
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19. Pure Scientologist Propaganda
In fact, "Industry of Death" is one of Cruise's favorite DVDs he pushes at his tent

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 12:34 PM
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10. The wrong meds can screw you up. Cymbalta made me nuts. However, it also led to me
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 12:37 PM by GreenPartyVoter
finally being correctly diagnosed as bipolar, and anyone thinks I am going to go off those meds and back to being suicidal is nuts themselves.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:02 PM
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14. They mention nothing about Scientology's IDENTICAL master plan!
What about Scientology's master plan to infiltrate all of society using their own brand of psychiatry? This looks like professional envy to me.
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rollingrock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:19 PM
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15. Are there any Scientologists
who have ever gone on a shooting rampage?

No? That's because 100% of those who go on violent shooting rampages
are Christians who are doped up on psychiatric drugs.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:25 PM
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18. What about Lisa McPherson?
Scientology KILLED her and then covered it up

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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:42 PM
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24. Shhhhh you'll burst someone's bubble!
I hear loud popping sounds already!
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 04:46 PM
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25. I notice you do not deny that they have the same master plan
Have there ever been organized groups of psychiatrists in uniforms getting in the way in a national disaster? The answer is no, of course not, but the answer is in the affirmative when it comes to completely UNQUALIFIED Scientologists.

Neither this point nor yours addresses the issue I raised, which is that the Scientologists have the EXACT same master plan in mind that they accuse the Psychiatrists of having. And if that ain't a pure example of Jungian projection, I'll eat my hat!
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:04 PM
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28. They do however go on a rampage with swords.
Epic Sword Guy was one of their own.

And they shot him dead.

How convienent.

Try Operation Clambake http://www.xenu.net/ on for size.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:24 PM
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17. Scientologist BS
Um, this is not L Ron Hubbard Underground - so keep you and your clams away from our site
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:35 PM
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21. sigh....
:eyes:
As with millions of other Americans, I probably would not be alive today if it wasn't for my psychiatrists and my meds.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:02 PM
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22. I am with you there
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:07 PM
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29. How did this thread get eight votes?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:53 PM
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30. That's a very good question
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 06:53 PM by Jack Rabbit
/s/

Sufferer of Major Depression and
Consumer of Paxil

My mark placed here with the assistance of
the University of Kansas

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 11:44 AM
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33. *That's* a very good product
Useful in treatment of anxiety, too.
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 11:20 PM
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31. SCIENTOLOGY: FAKE RELIGION OF DEATH.
www.whyaretheydead.com

xenu.net

xenutv.com

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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 01:17 PM
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34. There are always problems with solutions--psychiatric drugs work but of course not always.
To come out so blatently against something for which a huge amount of research data shows tremendous benefits is amazing.

I attempted suicide BEFORE drugs and had terrible mood swings. That was in 1993. Since zoloft I have lived a well adjusted productive life. To say that the whole thing is worthless is anti-science and anti-rational.
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pardesidude7 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 01:58 PM
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35. true
anti depressants are dumbing down part of society
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