TYT: Secret Insurance Industry Memo Discovered (Links Included)

[ihavenobias]

Run time: 03:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMzgTX6SM7k   Posted on YouTube: July 18, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: July 20, 2009 By DU Member: ihavenobias Views on DU: 2041

 
Note---A must-see clip was posted around 2am Saturday morning so a lot of you missed it:


Summary: Cenk discusses some of the content in newly released insurance industry memos from 2007 trying to discredit Michael Moore, Sicko and non-private insurance systems in general.

The Memos:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/ahip1.pdf

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/07102009/ahip2.pdf

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[foginthemorn]

1. We KNEW the insurance industry could NOT be trusted=yet the H A

WH and congress is willing to trust them to lower costs. !!

[fascisthunter]

4. nah... they knew what was going on

if we know, they know... don't ever give politicians the benefit of the doubt until they have a proven track record.

[20score]

2. K&R.

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Unfortunately, propaganda not only works, it's easy.

But, Michael Moore rocks.

[OhioChick]

3. K&R n/t

[slipslidingaway]

5. knr - There are two documents, both linked here as well as the

interview with Wendell Poter, ex Cigna exec.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6085450&mesg_id=6085450

[ihavenobias]

6. Thanks, I thought I had both? At any rate, Cenk has an awesome new article...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x465106

On the failures of the MSM on the healthcare issue.

[slipslidingaway]

7. Just gave the other thread a knr ...

some of the items in the documents are repetitive, just more evidence that they were serious about discrediting SICKO and any national insurance plan that excluded the for profit companies.

AHIP invited to the WH summit and Obama called on them to make a comment, AHIP testified several times to various committees and Dean spoke to their convention in June.

http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/chapters/ca-2009-06-05-14-13-28-chapters.php

"Thursday morning, while members of the American Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) waited in the San Diego Convention Center to hear Jeb Bush and Dr. Howard Dean address the convention, 150 activists demonstrated outside chanting: “Healthcare YES, Insurance Companies NO” and “Single-Payer Now.” 



AHIP included, not for profit advocates excluded.

:(

[ihavenobias]

12. Figures (your last sentence). n/t

[slipslidingaway]

13. Sad situation IMO. n/t

[Seldona]

8. Where did they get all the money to run these ads?

Sick.

[Wednesdays]

9. K&R

:kick:

[pleah]

10. K&R

[jayschool]

11. PR Shenanigans

Man, do I hate PR flaks who have sold their souls to corporate America.

But that's what journalism students want to major in, and that's because PR is funded by other products (like insurance), whereas traditional journalism -- you know, the stuff that afflicts the comfortable and comforts the afflicted -- has to compete in a marketplace where information is free, and it's only source of sustenance is often a moldy old pile of newsprint that is increasingly worthless.

Consider the case at Colorado State University, where a previous administration built its public relations force to 55 FTEs, or more than 60 people whose main job consisted of creating material that told the institution's story in its own words, with a primary focus of burnishing the institution's image.

Meanwhile, traditional media -- those expected to hold the institutional accountable -- dwindled to the point where only one reporter, who was saddled with other responsibilities as well, working for a sub-standard newspaper, was the public's only full-time watchdog. Luckily the student press responded by listening to whistle blowers and writing the stories that exposed the corruption and lies of the previous administration.

That story is analogous to so much of our country these days: industries, large government institutions, and in some cases, the "independent media" themselves, can afford to hire as many spin-meisters as their profits (from other products, mind you, like insurance, soft drinks and tuition) allow.

Man, do I hate PR flaks.