Cindy Sheehan On MSNBC 8/21/09

[jakeXT]

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[Sky Masterson]

1. I agree with her mostly

The notion that we can just pull out overnight and accomplish everything she said sounds ludicrous to me.
On second thought, would fox news praise "these" protesters as they do the tea-baggers?
Like I said. I agree with her mostly. I just wish she would back off until we get the healthcare bill passed.

[joeycola]

3. “2nd Tour, Hope I Don’t Die.” It’s chilling."--Our troops can not

wait.
I am glad to see her out in front with this issue.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/opinion/25herbert.html?_r=2&ref=opinion

.............Bob Herbert:

If you want to get a little bit of a sense of what the wars are like in Afghanistan and Iraq — a small, distant sense of the on-the-ground horror — pick up a book of color photos called, “2nd Tour, Hope I Don’t Die.” It’s chilling.

Most Americans have conveniently put these two absurd, obscene conflicts out of their minds. There’s an economy to worry about and snappy little messages to tweet. Nobody wants to think about young people getting their faces or their limbs blown off. Or the parents, loaded with antidepressants, giving their children and spouses a final hug before heading off in a haze of anxiety to their third or fourth tour in the war zones. <...>

Instead of winding down our involvement in Afghanistan, we’re ratcheting it up. President Obama told the V.F.W. that fighting the war there is absolutely essential. “This is fundamental to the defense of our people,” he said.

Well, if this war, now approaching its ninth year, is so fundamental, we should all be pitching in. We shouldn’t be leaving the entire monumental burden to a tiny portion of the population, sending them into combat again, and again, and again, and again ...

[Sky Masterson]

4. I feel ya

I want them home too.
Hell I wish we never went to Iraq but I did support the war in Afghanistan.
and besides
Cleaning up dubyas mess is no easy job.

[joeycola]

7. No, not easy, but a plan to exit is vital.

[Sky Masterson]

8. "plan"

I like that word.
I also like a good plan.
Leaving like a thief in the night isn't a good plan.
Cindy is a great lady.
I feel for her.I like her.
I believe that if this administration had the answers and all of the pieces in place to bring our troops home tomorrow then Obama would bring them home.It would make his job way the F easier and give him more money to pay down the debt and get our economy going again.
It's not all black or white it's 17 kinds of grey..

[jakeXT]

5. exactly

If we had a draft — or merely the threat of a draft — we would not be in Iraq or Afghanistan. But we don’t have a draft so it’s safe for most of the nation to be mindless about waging war. Other people’s children are going to the slaughter.

[vaberella]

2. She always bugged me.

When I heard an interview of hers where she stated that she supported the war and military until her son died...always bothered me. I realize that it's not the past but the future. But she supported wars, and us going into these countries and the militaries actions until her son died and if her son didn't die she would most likely still be supporting them. It's frustrating.

Secondly her thoughts on removing soldiers are almost ridiculous. Don't get me wrong we need to get out. But she has NO ideas on how to have a considerate removal. She wants us to leave these nations the way we left Pakistan, Grenada, Haiti and so many other nations in utter disarray after invasion. It lessens our status in the nation and makes it worse. She's a punk, I'm sorry.

She is not thinking on this clearly. Plus even when the man is on vacation. Maybe it's because I see Obama as human and as someone who has done a lot in his short time in office that I cannot for the life of m understand why he can't take a vacation from time to time.

[jakeXT]

6. I wonder how the whole 60's might have looked without a draft ?

Would people care ?


from the article posted above


If we had a draft — or merely the threat of a draft — we would not be in Iraq or Afghanistan. But we don’t have a draft so it’s safe for most of the nation to be mindless about waging war. Other people’s children are going to the slaughter.

[annm4peace]

10. She isn't pulling this out of her ass, she is surrounded by Veterans

Ret. Col Ann Wright is a close friend of hers as are many others who have been there when soldiers left a country. There are hundreds of thousand Vets for Peace who are Vietnam Vets for stand up with and for her.

check out Col Ann Wright's bio and then check back with us.

Sheehan like many believed in this country, Jesus, a President, and the military and painfully had to see reality when her son died and she was lied to. How can you blame her for that. She saw the light, unlike many.

When she came to speak in Minneapolis several years ago, she joined the Vets for peace she met at Crawford who bannered on a bridge over the Freeway for their weekly Vigil. Then she went to visit a mother's who's soldier son had committed suicide that week. She didn't have to do that.
She spent time with another mother who's son was killed in Iraq, Becky Lourey.

She has given her heart and soul to others when she hardly had any energy left.

[Divine Discontent]

9. I'll "rec" you Cindy. Keep standing up for peace movement. the trillion dollar bush war shouldn't

be continuing for years under President Obama. There are other solutions to problems. These wars are for resources and profit. We can do other things than what we are doing. I will not cheerlead the bad things that my president does, just because he's a million times better than b*sh.