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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:17 PM Original message |
Chris Matthews Corners Catholic Bishop Who Barred Kennedy |
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Sanity Claws (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. Kudos to Chris Matthews! |
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suzanner (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. That was Excellent! |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
133. Was it? |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:35 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. He got it down to the essential |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:43 AM Response to Reply #135 |
140. He avoided answering that question. |
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ImOnlySleeping (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #135 |
178. 1st degree |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
159. What you saw was an example of the intellectual bankruptcy that is heritage of John Paul II |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. I stopped, boycot if you will, |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
137. Or.. |
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ImOnlySleeping (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #137 |
181. It would |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #137 |
285. That's fine with me. |
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GodlessBiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
165. Indeed. I thought this was settled with President Kennedy. This Bishop just doesn't get it. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
229. Why would I listen to .. |
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ckimmy57 (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #229 |
232. Here here |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #232 |
236. They want more so.. |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #229 |
245. 81% Gay |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #245 |
252. What are you trying to say? |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #245 |
255. Bullshit |
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colbertforpresident (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. The war |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
151. Now THAT would have been a great question to put to the Bishop. |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. Whoa! Smackdown! n/t |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. He taught that hypocrite a lesson |
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kayakjohnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. If only he'd been like that for the last 9 years. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. I agree. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
101. For the last 9 years, he's been playing the game the way those in power liked it ... |
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amyrose2712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
172. Ya took the words off my fingers.nt |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. Bishop Tobin... |
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howmad1 (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
71. The only reason he and his ilk are against abortion........ |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:28 AM Response to Reply #71 |
102. Great point . . . how precious the fertilized egg, but a young child is their personal sex toy -- !! |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #71 |
246. Not funny |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #246 |
256. Du is a progressive website that supports the Democratic platform |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. K&R |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. Tobin is a witless, twit-brained woman murderer. |
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h9socialist (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Will you stop being so lenient!?!?!?! |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. Tweety's message to "his excellency" was two words: butt out |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
12. I Like Matthews |
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DumbBassRepublicans (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
41. Matthews and DICK C-H-E-E-N-E-Y's name.... |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
13. thank you WHY DOES NOBODY EVER ASK: WOULD YOU OUTLAW IT??? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
103. dupe -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:30 AM Response to Reply #13 |
104. No do they get to the question of birth control which they'd also like to do away with ... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
14. I watched that. Screw the RCC if it thinks it has any right |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Actually, I liked that he kept calling him "Your Excellency." |
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Ishka Kibble (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
139. Yes, it was properly done. |
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DumbBassRepublicans (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
47. "Your Moron-ificence..!! |
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azmesa207 (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
251. Matthews |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
107. I agree . . . and you can call me "Excellent" please . . . don't forget . . . |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. I'm glad to see you giving him his props for this... |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
17. There's not one fucking GOP politician who is really willing to say |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
95. I think Inhofe has said that. I also think he said abortion doctors deserve the |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #95 |
108. Right .. .. give them time, they'll get there -- !!! |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. Wow, Chris Matthews was excellent (nt) |
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20score (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
19. That was great! |
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PinkoDonkey (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
20. I felt a "thrill up my leg." |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. quick video link attached ** |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. I ask everyone who is against the increasingly pointed attempts to intrude religion into politics |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
110. I do . . . and I will continue to do so -- |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. Thank you, Chris Matthews. |
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bkohatlanta (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The people who believe in Freedom the least, |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
261. they won't say that the mother should get jail time or the death penalty because |
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Grassy Knoll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
24. Sodomize alter boys, loud and clear padre ! n/t |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
26. Tweety gets it wrong |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Strongly disagree. Matthews expertly and appropriately quoted Patrick's |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Strongly disagree. Matthews expertly and appropriately quoted Patrick's |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. But of course the good Bishop is butting right in to the public arena |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. But of course the good Bishop is butting right in to the public arena |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. No. Roe v. Wade is the law of the land. It is likely to displease |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. No. Roe v. Wade is the law of the land. It is likely to displease |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I believe that the Bishop sounded ill-prepared, flustered, |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I believe that the Bishop sounded ill-prepared, flustered, |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. The bishop attempted to make a similar distinction when Matthews |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. The bishop attempted to make a similar distinction when Matthews |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. No, the Church does not have the final say. In this instance, it should have |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. No, the Church does not have the final say. In this instance, it should have |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The attack on Kennedy was deliberately public and vicious. |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
128. Is it not the Catholics churchs right? |
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Ishka Kibble (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:52 AM Response to Reply #128 |
141. I don't think so. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:56 AM Response to Reply #141 |
146. a point of contention |
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Ishka Kibble (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:49 AM Response to Reply #146 |
152. Roe v. Wade is settled law. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:09 AM Response to Reply #152 |
156. We'll have to disagree |
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Ishka Kibble (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #156 |
223. Wrong place. |
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Ishka Kibble (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #156 |
225. Wrong place. |
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Ishka Kibble (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #156 |
227. Never mind. |
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Ishka Kibble (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #156 |
228. I used the term "settled law" to refer to its chief characteristic. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #128 |
168. I'd argue no. The Church is sanctioned to pracice its religion, and to |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #168 |
171. But there is another right of choice involved here. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #171 |
174. According to Tobin, it is not the issue, though. Tobin framed the issue |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #174 |
177. but here is the defining question |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #177 |
179. Respectfully, I would submit that the Bishop accepted an invitation to |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #179 |
183. We remain far apart on what is at issue. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #183 |
187. The pursuit of a religious faith, and its practice, are individual decisions |
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ImOnlySleeping (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #177 |
189. I'll assume |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #189 |
192. I love your sig line. It's one of my favorite Vonnegut passages. |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #192 |
233. Right and the GOP |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #233 |
267. You strike a Republican nerve there, and good for you for doing it. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #189 |
193. No doubt it is an action by the Church devised to establish a point. My assertion |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #193 |
198. Agree that it would be interesting to do a study on the extent of |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #168 |
208. The constitution also gives you freedom of religion |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #208 |
268. But no member of Congress may be chucked out for holding any |
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Paper Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #128 |
195. It is the right of the Catholic church to minister to its own flock , not |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #195 |
197. I didn't realize any of your points were at issue in this thread. |
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suzanner (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
264. to javafusion, your weak argument only applies to this one issue |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #264 |
278. Check out my post #156 |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
127. This is where I stop taking it seriously |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #127 |
169. I re-played the interview and feel that while Tobin is consistent in |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
176. Your remarks are about as stupid as the bishops. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:23 AM Response to Reply #176 |
200. Thanks Gramps. Your insight is invaluable |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
250. The Bishop attempted to influence a public official by threatening his immortal soul. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #250 |
272. That's what religious authorities do. Is that news to you? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #272 |
277. No, it is, after all, religion. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #277 |
279. I would refer you to a two thousand year history of the RCC relations with |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:07 AM Response to Reply #279 |
281. It is, after all, a religion. |
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h9socialist (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
234. Bishop Bozo should stick to what he knows best . . . |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #234 |
269. And how demur Tobin was when Matthews pressed him about the |
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RT_Fanatic (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
243. One thing overlooked here, |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. In case you haven't noticed... |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. In case you haven't noticed... |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:47 AM Response to Reply #32 |
124. Matthews made the case quite eloquently. |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:07 AM Response to Reply #30 |
129. I would say Tweety was the one that wanted it both ways |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #129 |
160. "...what they are not supposed to do as Catholics." |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:59 AM Response to Reply #129 |
161. "actually reminds people what they are not supposed to do as Catholics" |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #161 |
205. Excuse me? I completely get it. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #205 |
273. If that is the case, then John Kennedy was wrong |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #273 |
280. agreed |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. Mathews, unlike most so-called journalist, doesn't let the good father rhetoric his way out. Every |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Mathews, unlike most so-called journalist, doesn't let the good father rhetoric his way out. Every |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Kennedy is a democratically-elected member of the 111th Congress and |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Kennedy is a democratically-elected member of the 111th Congress and |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. If the bishop has this authority, Matthews suggested, then what is the |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. If the bishop has this authority, Matthews suggested, then what is the |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Forgiveness!? Give me a break. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Forgiveness!? Give me a break. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. If forgiveness were the response to young women who have abortions |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. If forgiveness were the response to young women who have abortions |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. The U.S. House of Representative is NOT the bishop's domain. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. Interesting that your church is concerned about abortion but looked the other way when their |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #78 |
92. Interesting that your church is concerned about abortion but looked the other way when their |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I appologize. My comment was out of line. nt |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. NP I've enjoyed the exchange |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #94 |
167. Have a happy turkey day. nt |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #167 |
175. the same to you and yours :) |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Matthews continued to ask what law the guy wanted. But the guy failed to answer. Apparently he |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:46 AM Response to Reply #69 |
144. Matthews' question is intellectually dishonest |
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bkohatlanta (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #144 |
158. You're wrong |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #158 |
162. Situational Ethics...hmmm |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #162 |
182. Not varing degrees of success, but no success. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #182 |
186. At this point I have to agree |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #186 |
266. well, i understand what you're getting at... |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #266 |
274. Thanks, I sorely needed to hear from someone like you. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. If the consequence for having an abortion is forgiveness, then a secular law is not necessary. Right... |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. If the consequence for having an abortion is forgiveness, then a secular law is not necessary. Right |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Wrong again. That is exactly what Matthews did.The other guy kept trying to interject religion into |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Actually, Matthews kept very close to public policy and cornered |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I agree. But then it is easy to "nail" a dogmatist. nt |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. It's true. The bishop didn't seem to put up much of a fight. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Actually, Matthews kept very close to public policy and cornered |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Then the good bishop must have wandered into the public forum |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Then the good bishop must have wandered into the public forum |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Kennedy is a pro-choice Democrat. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Kennedy is a pro-choice Democrat. |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:43 AM Response to Reply #82 |
143. Now that is just wrong. A public servant |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:02 AM Response to Reply #143 |
147. But that's not my point |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:19 AM Response to Reply #147 |
166. I believe the burden of re-evaluation is not on the congressperson who |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #166 |
203. I'm not sure about that since the Church's stance on this matter would affect over a billion members |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #203 |
270. The Constitution of this country protects Catholics' belief in their |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #147 |
191. What in hell is the matter with you? |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #191 |
202. You might have a point if you were accurate in describing my point of view. |
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Naipes (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #143 |
238. This is EXACTLY the point! |
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h9socialist (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
226. I am Catholic and Pro-Choice |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #73 |
80. It's funny, isn't it, how all the public figures the Catholic Church objects to on moral grounds are |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. You just bolstered Patrick Kennedy's profile among his constituents, |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. You just bolstered Patrick Kennedy's profile among his constituents, |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. It would be an argument against Bishop Tobin, however, if his |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. It would be an argument against Bishop Tobin, however, if his |
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jamesatemple (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:58 AM Response to Reply #90 |
154. "... Tobin was speaking as a Bishop in the Catholic Church |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #154 |
157. Kennedy's political stance may or may not reflect his personal views |
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jamesatemple (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #157 |
184. "The only thing I have to go by is what Tobin stated in the |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #184 |
207. I'm persuaded that Tobin was not within his rights to punish Kennedy. |
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jamesatemple (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #207 |
265. Given that we don't know anything definitively, no decision is conclusive. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #265 |
275. Because there is no fundamental difference. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Very interesting. Especially when his church pays millions of dollars to influence legislation. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Millions of dollars is exactly right. It must of been a hell of a bake sale, |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Catholics around the world live in poverty and yet they give their money to the church |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I've always fantacized that Jesus would appear suddenly to stand with |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:08 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I've always fantacized that Jesus would appear suddenly to stand with |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:01 AM Response to Reply #70 |
185. Are you really that dense? |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #185 |
188. The density is in proportion to the inabilty to recognize that it is Kennedy's claim of being a |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #185 |
215. He blackmailed himself |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #215 |
283. That's it! In a nutshell. Well done. |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #55 |
180. You just don't get it, do you? |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #180 |
190. Chill out Gramps. You are foaming at the mouth! |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #190 |
196. You have had your ass handed to you just like the bishop did. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #196 |
199. Then mirrors must not be a part of your home decor, eh? |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 06:58 AM Response to Reply #199 |
284. heh, heh... good one. nt. |
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RT_Fanatic (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
247. The "sin" of abortion |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Are you serious? You didnt recognize the question either. Mr. Mathews even said that |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Are you serious? You didnt recognize the question either. Mr. Mathews even said that |
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Subdivisions (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:54 AM Response to Reply #59 |
117. Stop repeating the subject lines of the people you're responding to! It's VERY annoying! n/t |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. sorry |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
89. Yes, listening to his Excellence pontificate on the RCC's stance |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
111. LOL you make the Church sound like a zombie brigade |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
112. Excuse me, but you're overlooking a few points . .. the RCC is a dictatorship ... |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:09 AM Response to Reply #112 |
119. What the RCC is isn't the point I was making. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #119 |
241. The Catholic Bishops DID have a role in the Stupak amendment . . .. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:20 PM Response to Reply #241 |
276. Time to get down to what is really wrong. |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:44 AM Response to Reply #26 |
126. I agree |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
138. The way I see the difference is this |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
150. Kennedy did not have an abortion. The bishop is using the religion to influence legislation. |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #150 |
163. +1 |
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Flying Dream Blues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
164. Wow, glad you found DU. Enjoy your stay! nt |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #164 |
212. Thanks for the warm welcome :) |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #26 |
173. Crawl back under the rock you slithered out from neo-con. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #173 |
213. Be nice. You know I love you, you heathen you! |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #213 |
216. You really are vacuous. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
28. Agree with you, tomm2thumbs -- Tweety comes out swinging and |
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Zambero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
263. He likely anticipated "softballs" from a fellow Catholic |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
38. That has to be one of his best interviews |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
46. Law is not about morality. It is about the group ethos, the behavioral principles that the group |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
54. I learned early on that God gave us free will. |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. I learned early on that God gave us free will. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:31 AM Response to Reply #63 |
106. I learned early on that God gave us free will. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:53 AM Response to Reply #106 |
115. In other words, "god" is not a fascist . . . !! |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:31 AM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Clearly. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #122 |
239. That's true as well . . . |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-23-09 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
76. wow.. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
88. K & R |
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bkohatlanta (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:34 AM Response to Reply #88 |
109. Bishop Tobin |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
91. Will the church support all those children until they are 18yoa?... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #91 |
97. Of course. From what I hear, many Catholic priests are rearing children. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:54 AM Response to Reply #97 |
116. Terrific . . . !!! |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #97 |
201. oh yes |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
96. Dos anyone else think that murder, rape, and stealing are not "moral" laws like the |
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ezgoingrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
98. Oh...Tweety. |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
99. I think Chris got it, and the Bishop didn't. This is damaging the RC Church in the US. |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
100. maybe they should kill the Dr's who perform abor....oh yeah,,,they already do that.... |
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sorrowspath (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
105. Denying communion |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #105 |
113. Decent Catholics, if they don't want to leave, should stop giving them money |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:10 AM Response to Reply #105 |
121. It's sad. It really is blackmail as you describe it. This abuse of power is ... |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:19 AM Response to Reply #105 |
131. Well, if the politician really was a Catholic |
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Zambero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
114. If any religion attempts to manipulate Congress |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
118. Well, shit, now Chris Matthews won't be able to get communion either. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
123. Bishop Thomas J. Tobin represents a sovereign city state of Vatican City |
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SoDesuKa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
125. Patrick Kennedy's Freedom of Conscience |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:18 AM Response to Reply #125 |
130. Exactly |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #130 |
206. Let me ask you do you believe in the Catholic Church's condemnation of contraception? |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #125 |
145. How did Kennedy openly defy |
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SoDesuKa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:24 AM Response to Reply #145 |
170. Apostasy |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #170 |
217. Bingo. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #170 |
244. Can't one oppose something and still believe that it should not be illegal? |
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SoDesuKa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #244 |
282. Pro-Choice |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
132. It was not good journalism |
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Ishka Kibble (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:28 AM Response to Reply #132 |
142. Your logic is faulty, I think. |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #142 |
194. Of course a member should uphold his oath. |
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Ishka Kibble (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #194 |
230. Everything you say is true, I agree. |
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backtomn (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #194 |
249. Thank You |
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raebrek (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #132 |
257. Yes and in 2007 |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
134. How many child molesters has Tobin shuffled? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
136. Bishop Tobin has |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
148. Hyper-religious people are easily defeated with logic. |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #148 |
214. true because if you went by everything the church teaches, we'd be the Taliban |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
149. Where was Tobin when bishops were abetting pedophile clergy? |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
153. Organized religion is a cancer. |
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Lucy Goosey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
155. That was great! |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
204. The whole debate was summed up at 8'33" |
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secondwind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
209. look at the very beginning of the tape, when Matthews addresses this jerk as "your excellency" |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
210. What happens if the mother's life |
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javafusion (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #210 |
211. Those are great questions and they should have been asked for the benefit |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #210 |
220. The Church recognizes no gray area. |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #210 |
221. The Catholic Church teaches that if the life of the mother is at risk... |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #221 |
262. Thanks for the info, Brendan. |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
218. let's get back to the good 'ol days when divorcee's were shunned by the congregants |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
219. This interview shows why the Church has no business meddling in legislation. |
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bushalert (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
222. Like I've Always Said |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
224. Tobin is a fool |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
231. The Seperation of Church and State,,, |
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BenjaminFranklin (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
235. nice job, matthews |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
237. Kudos to Chris Matthews. One of the best interviews in television history. |
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LittleGirl (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
240. Bully pulpit |
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Bert (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
242. Lets go way back |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
248. The Catholic church doesn't punish women for having abortions |
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Raster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
253. Ultimately, what I want to know: |
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ProgressOnTheMove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
254. It's just outrageous that he feels that non believers should follow their dictate.... |
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Raffi Ella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
258. Wow - |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
259. in the middle of the night I still wanted to wring that Bishop's neck |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
260. Da Vinci was gay |
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Ferret Annica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
271. He's good and pins that Roman collared idiot down like a prize |
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blueredneck (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-28-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
286. Tact and Point |
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