TYT: Muslim Radicals Killing World Cup Fans

[ihavenobias]

Run time: 03:19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgGJN5WlbjQ   Posted on YouTube: June 16, 2010 By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks Views on YouTube: 1894   Posted on DU: June 16, 2010 By DU Member: ihavenobias Views on DU: 1424

 
Summary: Cenk and Ana discuss the murder of two men by militant Muslims who were enraged that they were watching the World Cup instead of pursuing holy Jihad. You can http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/14/somali-soccer-fans-execut_n_611576.html|read more here>.

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[ProgressiveVictory]

1. thats stupid. Im glad i dont live there.

[Enthusiast]

2. Jimmy Swaggart said,

"There is no Christian entertainment." He was expressing his disdain for music and dancing. We have nuts here too.

[Angry Dragon]

3. And Jesus liked a good party

I remember the party he and I went to where he even brought the wine.........

[iandhr]

5. I like to picture...

...Jesus in a tuxedo t-shirt. Because it says I want to be formal but I am here to party.

[20score]

4. There are varying degrees when it comes to f'd up religions, and radical Islam always wins as the

most fucked up.

[Angry Dragon]

6. I can not agree with you

the fundie christians are worse.

They scare me........

[20score]

7. Believe me, I'm no fan of fundie Christians. And in the US, the Christians are more dangerous.

But, our fundies don't run the streets beating women that dress incorrectly, burning schools on a regular basis, killing homosexuals by the thousands, stoning girls for having sex - or talking to the wrong boy, for that matter - killing people for movies and cartoons they don't like. And the list goes on.

As much as we need bring our fundies into the 19th century, they need bring their fundies out of the dark ages.

On edit: And ours don't practice female circumcision.

[John Kerry VonErich]

23. OK I'm comfused.

Define dangerous.

[ihavenobias]

24. Done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgdZgBwMjIc&annotation_id=annotation_81846&feature=iv

[KansDem]

8. Check this out...

Westboro Baptist Church family disowns daughter — 20/20 (June 4, 2010)

I feel bad for the daughter, but at least now she's free...

[Dave From Canada]

10. Why is it that whenever the subject of Islamic extremism is posted, it turns into a Christian

bashing exercise? Can we ever talk about Muslim fanatics without bringing up other religions too? Just wondering.

[ihavenobias]

13. Dave From Canada

Most of the posters here (myself included) are generally exposed to the downsides of radical Christians (see abstinence only education, creationism, etc.) living here in America.

If we lived in a largely Muslim country we'd probably focus more on radical Muslims. At any rate, it's not "Christian bashing" any more than the video in question is "Muslim bashing". We're talking about the radical fundamentalists, not average believers.

[Dave From Canada]

21. But this topic is specifically about Islamic extremists killing people for watching soccer. And

downsides like abstinence only, or creationism isn't on the same level as what this thread's about. And some crazy Christian disowning his daughter isn't on the same level as killing people for watching the World Cup. I'm sorry you feel like it is.

[ihavenobias]

22. But you asked why talk of religion often goes back to Christians

I explained it's because here in America we specifically have crazy and or obnoxious right wing Christians to deal with. At any rate, watch this video and then we'll talk about the how dangerous RW Christians are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgdZgBwMjIc&annotation_id=annotation_81846&feature=iv

[Hugabear]

18. Interesting...talking about Christian extremists is "Christian bashing"?

Curious why you would want to focus solely on Islamic extremists, which really aren't a serious threat in the US, and completely ignore Christian extremists, which are a very real and growing threat here. I don't see anyone in this thread "bashing" Christians.

[Dave From Canada]

20. This topic is about Islamic extremists killing World Cup watchers. I find it odd that people feel

the need to bring up Christians extremists. But it seems to be a trend. Whenever Islamic extremism is discussed, there always has to be a type of disclaimer that other religions have extremists too. It's old and tiring.

[ihavenobias]

16. Thanks for that link.

I passed it on to Cenk.

[Dave From Canada]

9. Fundie Christians might scare you, but these idiots will kill you.

[ihavenobias]

11. I think radical Muslims are a MUCH greater short small/medium scale danger...

I'm also scared of radical right wing Christians planning on using the government to bring about a nuclear war and the rapture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgdZgBwMjIc&annotation_id=annotation_81846&feature=iv

[ProgressiveVictory]

12. you're right, they are a mush greater short medium scale danger because they

do such horrible things to people.

thats what gets them noticed more. remember, if it bleeds it leads...

[Quantess]

14. Yes. Muslim fundies are the most violent.

[breadandwine]

19. Cenk is being a little naive. Muslim fundies control entire countries.

They don't need to have everyone agree with them. They get compliance at the end of a gun.

This includes Hamas-controlled Gaza and Iran. In Afghanistan, the Taliban banned paper bags. The reason? There was a very small chance that since some paper bags are made from recycled paper, that that could result in some old, worn out Korans getting destroyed, turned into recycled paper and used in paper bags.

So.

In honor of this the Taliban there banned all paper bags and only the more polluting plastic bags were allowed.

These people are really nuts.

In Gaza, anyone who disagrees with Hamas is killed.

In Gaza, if music is played at a wedding, Hamas gunmen show up and shoot everybody. The bride too.

And then there's Iran. Ahmadinejad, in the days of the Iran-Iraq war, he was an activist sending children to their deaths into enemy mine fields to blow them up. Eventually the kids began getting a little shy of paradise, despite the incessant brainwashing, so Ahmadinejad had the kids go into the mine fields carrying blankets. The blankets were so that when the kids got blown up their dismembered body parts would become entangled in the blankets and hopefully not be seen by the next batch of children being led to the slaughter.


The film "Obsession" tells more about all these lunatics. You don't have to agree with everything in the video to learn a lot about these wack jobs. The whole video is now on YouTube at these links:


Obsession Links:


Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMLJJEDDDGc&feature=PlayList&p=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=0

Part 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bev054pNzI&feature=PlayList&p=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=1

Part 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJE6bIiXps&feature=PlayList=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=2

Part 4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J61r-NRHPtQ&feature=PlayList&p=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=3


Part 5:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jwL_GefwUE&feature=PlayList&p=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=4

Part 6:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l17LmCEp1QI&feature=PlayList&p=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=5

Part 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYR5F3mbQ-4&feature=PlayList&p=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=6


Part 8:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXZpOG4VCI&feature=PlayList&p=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=7

Part 9:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDPzPgkr4vk&feature=PlayList&p=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=8

Part 10:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lioOCOalPao&feature=PlayList&p=FE5A96CBDC2582F7&index=9


I think there is sometimes a double standard for Muslim fundies. There are plenty of circles in which it is considered unacceptable to criticize them. A cartoonist is sentenced to death by them. But even in some progressive circles it is considered a non-issue that these nuts are on the loose. The fact that Bush was also against the Muslim radicals doesn't make the Muslim radicals into good guys. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Cenk is saying don't worry. Sure Cenk. Anything you say.


Ayatollah Khoumeni used to attack America on the grounds that American buses don't have separated seating for men and women. He made statements including these:

"I love to hang people from cranes. Because they twist so prettily in the wind. And I love things of beauty, which are so rare in this sinful world."

"The skin of a woman is as smooth as the skin of a locust that has not yet grown wings. But I desire it not, and anyone who says otherwise shall be burned alive in a hijacked airliner."


But of course, when Iran continues elements of its nuclear program that have no peaceful use, like manufacturing polonium-210, which the IAEA found in Iran and which is only used for atom bomb triggers, we must all shut up because Iran has such nice highways and is only peaceful. No one should stop Iran. It's none of our business.

Another of Ahmadinejad's choice activities was building a huge boulevard in Tehran to welcome the coming Mahdi savior, who is supposed to crawl out of a well somewhere and force their lunatic radical sect down the throats of humanity.

[sulphurdunn]

15. We too have much to correct.

History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.

-Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.

[Turborama]

17. Denying any form of entertainment and isolation/minimizing information from the "outside"

are mind control tools that are commonly used by cults. Islamic extremism is a essentially another cult using religion to suck people in.