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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:32 PM
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Arizona Woman Taken By Border Patrol After Routine Traffic Stop
 
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August 02, 2010

Tucson, Arizona: On August 2, 2010 around 3:15 p.m. Officer Zinn and Officer Koontz of the Tucson Police Department called Border Patrol on a woman during a traffic stop. Border Patrol came and took her into detention because she refused to answer questions about her citizenship without her lawyer present.

Read more here: http://www.mediaite.com/online/video-surfaces-of-arizona-police-enforcing-immigration-law/
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:35 PM
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1. Ugh...
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:37 PM
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2. Oh crap.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:51 PM
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3. AZ...the state I drive AROUND when I travel..
I've had it with that police state....fascist fools.

My wife is Hispanic, and there is NO WAY I would subject either of us to that treatment. Those pigs should be ashamed of themselves...but they are obviously too brain dead.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 02:57 PM
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4. good....now there`s a court case.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:50 PM
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6. That is what I was thinking. The more ppl arrested the more lawsuits.
As soon as a bunch of American citizens are arrested and detained for not answering 'citizenship' questions (equal to be interrogated) and their requests for their attorneys be present are denied then more lawsuits will be filed and then when cities are sued for illegal detention and have to pay up the big bucks then maybe some of the craziness will subside ;)

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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:12 PM
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8. +1
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 04:13 PM by Maat
There were no grounds to take her into custody. Ka-ching (if she's a U.S. citizen)!
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:13 PM
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5. Minor, but significant, point

The cops called US Border Patrol.

Border Patrol took her into custody.

That is federal agents dealing with federal law, not state agents.

SB 1070 would have "authorized" the state cops to take her into custody, which is not what happened here.
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spicegal Donating Member (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 03:56 PM
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7. This is the can of worms they will unleash.
As an American citizen, I can't tell you how much I'd resent having someone ask me for my "papers" on a minor traffic violation.
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SILVER__FOX52 Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:24 PM
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9. These imbecile cops............
are mental.
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:32 PM
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10. What's the bottom line? Is she a citizen, or legal immigrant?
I'm sorry, but this is and was possible yesterday or last month, last year, if she is not a citizen or legal immigrant.

I know, I know, this seems harsh, and seems like we have become some sort of police state. I hate it as much as anyone else.

But the only difference I see here is that this incident was caught on tape.

Disabuse me of my ignorance. I detest this action, but, as far as I know, it could have happened before Brewer and the freaks in the Arizona legislature passed that horrid law. Am I wrong?


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maritzasolito Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 05:33 PM
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11. According to the video, this happened on August 2, 2010.
I would do just what this woman did so that I could prove that what you see it’s not what you get!!!
My husband looks like “an onion picker/farm-worker”, he has been in this country since 1954, legally, and became a US citizen after serving in Vietnam as a USMC Corporal or something to that effect, in 1968. I have been here legally since 1978 but did not become a US citizen until March of 1996, on my child’s 16th B-Day! I am not as brown as my husband is AND when he used to take our child to the mall, people looked at him as if he were a pervert just because our child is white looking. I have had people switch walking across my sidewalk, don’t know why but it does feel hurtful, especially when given dirty looks to you while making derogatory comments about your pets right on your face while they are walking with their young children. (I don’t know if this makes sense but I am in need of a tissue at the moment)
Sometimes it is very hard to be of color in some places. I do not need to go to AZ, South Jersey is just as bad for some of us.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 11:53 AM
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14. Derogatory comments about your pets?
People are assholes. It sounds like their lives are so useless and miserable, that they feel themselves so low on the food chain, that they have to single out someone, by gender, by race, or nationality or whatever, and torment them so they feel better.

I'm sorry that happened to you. I wish I would have been walking with you. I have a way with words.
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 04:51 AM
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12. My wife is a Native American...
and when we lived in Southern California she could never get through the I5 checkpoint north of Oceanside without being pulled over to the side for more questions and a search of our car. There's no way we'd travel in Arizona today.

But she has an amusing perspective: "There is an immigration problem. It started in 1492."

What we're seeing is just xenophobia and scapegoating. The American people need someone to blame for their misery other than themselves. And the American ruling class, eager to turn attention away from their corporate masters, is all to happy to exploit that fear and projection.

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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:30 AM
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13. I agree
If the economy were doing as well as it did under Clinton the public would be more attune to what is really happening. But because so many jobs have been lost it's easy to blame immigrants..illegal or not. Yet we all are immigrants and the irony of the double standard is blatantly prejudice.

The right wing has successfully shifted the focus from their greed of corporate payoffs to immigration. This insidious discussion about anchor babies and the 14th amendment make for great anxiety which is what they're best at. Quite nauseating how easy this country can be usurped of it's values by opportunists. Your wife has a wonderful attitude though she must get tired of the arrogance and ignorance.

My family was just discussing how there are no african or native americans in the Senate. Only Burris who is on his way out and maybe Akaka. That's not representation.
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