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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:29 AM
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Teabagger Punched After Trying to Destroy Camera at Beck Rally
 
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:33 AM
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1. I didn't see the punch
and I admit it: I would have liked to.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:44 AM
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3. me too
:evilgrin:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:58 AM
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5. Me neither but I want to believe it was soooo sweet.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:42 AM
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2. Teabaggers will fight to the death to protect the wealthiest of the wealthy. nt
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:54 AM
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4. And the sad, tragic punchline is that they DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT!
Most of these tea-baggers are *probably* half-way decent people that are just scared to death that their way of life, or should I say, PERCEIVED way of life is slipping away or taken away from them. And to a degree they are right. Their perception of The American Dream is slipping away, but it's not because of immigrants, or the US turning away from God or the homosexual marriage agenda. No, their way of life is slipping away because greedy, wealthy, individuals, families and corporations want to not only protect what they have accumulated--usually through questionable and nefarious methods--but want even more. And they need someone to (1) blame it on; and (2) unsuspecting dupes to do their dirty work.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:59 AM
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6. Right. It's funny how a few false memes can mess up a person's critical thinking skills. nt
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:03 PM
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7. The American mindset is littered with false memes designed to marginalize critical thinking skills.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 12:04 PM by Raster

If I may...

There's a reason that education sucks, and it’s the same reason it will never ever ever be fixed. It’s never going to get any better, don’t look for it. Be happy with what you’ve got. Because the owners of this country don’t want that. I’m talking about the real owners now, the big, wealthy, business interests that control all things and make the big decisions.

Forget the politicians, they’re irrelevant.

Politicians are put there to give you that idea that you have freedom of choice. You don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations, and they’ve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the State Houses, and the City Halls. They’ve got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies so they control just about all the news and information you get to hear.

They’ve got you by the balls.

They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else. But I’ll tell you what they don’t want—they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That’s against their interest. You know something, they don’t want people that are smart enough to sit around their kitchen table and figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.

They don’t want that, you know what they want?

They want obedient workers, obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it.


And now they’re coming for your social security money.

They want your fucking retirement money; they want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you sooner or later because they own this fucking place. It’s a big club and you ain’t in it! You and I are not in the Big Club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you in the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to believe, what to think and what to buy.

The table is tilted folks, the game is rigged.

Nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard working people, white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard working people continue, these are people of modest means, continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about…give a fuck about you! They don’t care about you at all, at all, at all.

And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care.

That’s what the owners count on, the fact that Americans are and will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth, it’s called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.

Thank you, George Carlin!
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:07 PM
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9. Some of us can actually see the forest for the trees. Thanks! nt
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Skelly Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:14 PM
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11. Thanks for the reminder
I had to laugh. I started to read this post and think to myself..."Exactly! This is how I feel. Gee, someone else DOES get it". Then I continued reading and began thinking..."Hmmm....this sound REAL familiar". Finally got to the end and realized "THAT'S why it sounds familiar". Remember reading it for the first time awhile back and was amazed at how well GC put into words my own feelings. I forget when he first said it, but it is still (even more so) true today. Thanks again for posting it.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:15 PM
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12. My pleasure. I keep it handy. Carlin was a visionary and was not afraid to call it.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:20 PM
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13. Love that bit
The only thing I would say is the they want more and the want everybody else to have less should be they want more and they could give a damn what everybody else gets in the bargin.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:41 PM
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16. George Carlin...a voice that we need desperately right now...
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:55 PM
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20. Yep, politicians come and go, even political parties can come and go, but the
real power/wealth brokers that own and run this country remain. I'm intrigued by how they get the teabaggers and the like to do their bidding. This nation is so awash with so much propaganda, misinformation, liars and lies it's getting hard to walk over the BS.

Also, there is a myth perpetually spread that teabaggers are all old white cranky men. When I look at the crowds I see all ages. A number of youth / middle age are indoctrinated into this BS too and it's not going away. Every F'en teabagger can die and this shit is still going to go on. The teabaggers are just a tool. Oh, this nation is so so so fucken ignorant.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:32 PM
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28. Great post. n/t
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dadzilla Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:07 PM
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8. Fear
I think you hit an important point there, these people are living in fear. But we shouldn't underestimate just how crazed, loathsome and even evil some people can become when they are afraid.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:12 PM
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10. And that is what the people that create these false memes count on is fear.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 12:12 PM by Raster
There are several rethuglican "think tanks" and PR firms that do nothing but churn this stuff out. They research what the demographic is most afraid of and then tailor their message to prey upon their worst fears, be it immigrants taking their jobs, to Obama taking away their Medicare and Social Security to the gays destroying traditional marriage. The mind control is all based on fear.

Fear is the mind killer. Free your mind, the rest will follow.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:44 PM
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17. GEORGE LAKOFF GEORGE LAKOFF GEORGE LAKOFF
Framing the issues: UC Berkeley professor George Lakoff tells how conservatives use language to dominate politics
http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff.shtml

Just google "George Lakoff" and you will find how long he has been warning about this...
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:07 PM
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40. +1111!1!
:thumbsup:
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:52 PM
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19. Excellent point.
Welcome to DU :hi:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 01:50 PM
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24. Just check out the history of Germany as Hitler was rising in power.
A perfect storm of fear, economic instability, hate and a person who knew exactly how to capture and focus that to his own agenda.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 06:58 PM
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39. hear here! n/t
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:37 PM
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14. I have no problem with that, so long as it's THEIR death....nt
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:57 PM
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31. Sad too that they think they are part of the wealthy class, Very, very sad.
They are enablers!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:40 PM
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15. Willful ignorance...aided and abetted by the RWingnuts who manipulate them.
http://markmaynard.com/?p=7501&cpage=1


The best part of the article is the contribution by Thomas Frank, the author of What’s the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America. Here’s a highlight:

….Right-wing politics has become a vehicle for channelling this popular anger against intellectual snobs. The result is that many of America’s poorest citizens have a deep emotional attachment to a party that serves the interests of its richest.

Thomas Frank says that whatever disadvantaged Americans think they are voting for, they get something quite different:

“You vote to strike a blow against elitism and you receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our life times, workers have been stripped of power, and CEOs are rewarded in a manner that is beyond imagining… It’s like a French Revolution in reverse in which the workers come pouring down the street screaming more power to the aristocracy.”

As Mr Frank sees it, authenticity has replaced economics as the driving force of modern politics. The authentic politicians are the ones who sound like they are speaking from the gut, not the cerebral cortex. Of course, they might be faking it, but it is no joke to say that in contemporary politics, if you can fake sincerity, you have got it made.


And here, according to the author of the article, is the big takeaway message from all of this… “If people vote against their own interests, it is not because they do not understand what is in their interest or have not yet had it properly explained to them. They do it because they resent having their interests decided for them by politicians who think they know best. There is nothing voters hate more than having things explained to them as though they were idiots. As the saying goes, in politics, when you are explaining, you are losing. And that makes anything as complex or as messy as healthcare reform a very hard sell.”



The Dem should start paying attention of George Lakoff and his advice about framing the debate and defining the issues...
The repukes have mastered the technique.

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff.shtml
Framing the issues: UC Berkeley professor George Lakoff tells how conservatives use language to dominate politics
The above article is from 2003!

http://www.truth-out.org/disaster-messaging61170
Disaster Messaging
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 01:12 PM
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22. Great quote thanks for posting it. Having read this thread, I seriously think
DU should have a forum devoted to what makes freepers tick (or something to that effect, perhaps 'what makes people vote against their interests) for a number of reasons not least which is to educate freepers, semi-freepers, potential freepers or the totally clueless who either stumble upon or troll DU. If not a specific forum then Frank's or Carlin's quote should be always on the Lobby page.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:45 PM
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18. i dont punch women, teabagger or not.
my life would have to be threatened for me to strike a woman.

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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 01:50 PM
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25. Perhaps the person did feel their life was threatened. Violence by anyone sucks.
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 01:51 PM by Raster
I knew a woman years ago that had no problem with physically assaulting men: punching in the face, knees to the nuts, whatever. She had even taken a bit of Tai Koan Do and loved roundhouse kicking unsuspecting guys. She found it quite funny. She was always unprovoked and always followed the physical injury with "you won't hit/hurt me 'cause I'm a girl. Ha ha." Eventually she hit the wrong man. He decked her. She deserved it.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:44 PM
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45. sorry, violence is never the answer
even in return.

there were other ways to defuse the situation.
you cant tell me there werent law enforcement somewhere near by, and hell he even had her assaulting him on camera.

violence back wasnt called for, im sorry.
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John Kerry VonErich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:17 PM
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47. That's the problem
Then the teabaggers will just keep pounding away and all we do is cover up. It's ok to fight back harder in self defense.net Let's not try and prove the opposition right when they look upon progressives as "cowards".
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 03:30 PM
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34. It Was the Teabagger Lady who Punched the Camera
watch the video the title is misleading.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:42 PM
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44. i think you should rewatch the video
maybe im not reading it correctly but it blatently says after the woman hits the camera

"PUNCH! Teabagger punches camera, GETS A PUNCH in return"
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John Kerry VonErich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 01:49 PM
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23. FINALLY SOME MUSCLE!!!!!!
I deplore violent acts, except provocation. We need more people like that who aren't afraid to hit harder in self defense.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 01:56 PM
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26. Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah
TEABAG!

Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:30 PM
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27. K&R
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tempelton Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:51 PM
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29. Politics aside, that guy seems like an acid burn-out...
...AND PUNCHING WOMEN IS NOT COOL, YOU FUCKING DOUCHEBAG!
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HALO141 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:53 PM
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30. +1
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HALO141 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:58 PM
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32. Camera boy got what he was asking for.
His behavior was unacceptable. Try walking up to someone at the Sharpton rally down the street and calling someone the n-word several times. You'd get the shit kicked out of you and rightfully so. What he did was equally provocative and its no surprise he got smacked.

I seriously doubt he punched her back.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:50 PM
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37. Camera boy called the Teabagger the N word? Wow, I didn't hear that. nt
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:14 PM
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42. No he was using an example.

Camera boy walked up to a teabagger and called her a racist without proof.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 03:29 PM
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33. The Teabagger Punched the Camera!!!
Jesus... before you post, watch the video!
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Techn0Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 04:52 PM
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35. I don't think this kind of thing helps us....
Things that DON'T Help the progressive cause:

1. Gloating over the physical violence done to the opposition
2. Ranting and goading to the opposition in order to get a rise out of them
3. Senseless shouting without any real communication
4. Making a (imho) narcissistic u-Tube video of #1- #3 in order to get social views.
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HALO141 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:40 PM
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36. + another 1
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 05:56 PM
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38. He was asking for trouble
by calling the woman's hero a racist and insinuating that she is also one by attending the event. She was incredibly wrong to punch the camera, but what can anyone expect when the person holding the camera is blatantly instigating in the middle of a mob that's so rationally/irrationally angry about everything in their lives? He isn't helping our cause with his childish behavior.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:09 PM
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41. Guy was kind of an asshole from the video
No proof the lady was racist, but called her that anyway.

If he had included some proof, I might think differently, but he didn't.
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:12 PM
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46. He didn't call her a racist
He called Glenn Beck a racist.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:43 PM
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48. Maybe so, but he was still an asshole
Don't go looking for a fight, or you'll find one.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:48 PM
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49. He obviously did not call her racist
If he first response to someone criticizing someone off of television is to punch the camera, she is the one who has the problem.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:57 PM
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51. I don't go into a church and badmouth christanity
I don't go in a mosque and badmouth Muslims.

I don't go to a sports bar and say anyone who watches sports is a moron, or badmouth heroes. I keep my mouth shut.

I kept it shut when Jackson died, even though I thougt the hero worship was stupid.

He was looking for a fight and found one.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 11:01 PM
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52. Free speech, it was a counter protest
Nothing justifies punching a camera, nothing.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 12:30 AM
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53. Maybe so, he was still an asshole. Nt
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:12 PM
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43. I Didn't See Anyone Punching the Teabagger
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 10:52 PM
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50. Is it just me or did he call her a bitch too? n/t
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