Meg Whitman Debate Audience Mocks Her Hypocrisy

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Meg Whitman thinks Californians are stupid - and don't get her game. Well, the response to her game-playing & posturing on politics is obvious. When Meggy says it's different when her Pete Wilson uses the term 'whore', the audience lets her know she's officially entered the stupidity zone.

A clip from the debate showcasing how there are two standards of behavior in this world. Meg Whitman's, and everyone elses. A lot of billionaires feel the same way. They try to buy people and tell them they should appreciate it. But California voters can't be purchased like her staff.

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Don't you love hypocrisy?

[tomm2thumbs]

1. feigning outrage one minute, then laughing off the term the next - that's our Meg!

her money is buying her some excellent acting coaches. At least 5 people in that room actually bought her performance -- 5 more than last time.

[pinboy3niner]

2. Meg: When one of your people says it *gasp* the horror...

...when my campaign manager says it, that's different.

The audience couldn't contain its laughter. :rofl:

[The Wielding Truth]

44. Ahh .. She's Republican. Right? Have you ever seen them not do this?

[vanbean]

52. I think I now know who Meg Witman really is. Do you remember

the character from Roseanne, who played the wife of the owner of the plastic factory, and also used to come into the Beauty Shop where Roseanne worked?

I can't think of the name, but boy, is she ever Meg Whitman material.

[Stellar]

56. Oh, I can't think of her name....

She always called Roseanne, Roxanne?

[AsahinaKimi]

3. Got my mail in ballot today

Jerry Brown WILL gets my vote.

[ejpoeta]

4. so she said the same 'slur' and somehow that's a completely different situation?

what's the difference? when she said it she was talking about someone other than herself? as a woman I do not take offense in the use of that term. she's in politics.... politicians are whores.

[wcollar]

25. politicians are whores?

That's going too far! Now your are insulting hardworking prostitutes all over this great country.

[ejpoeta]

35. lol. well, there is a prostitute and then there is a whore. a prostitute sells her or his

body for money. a political whore sells their values for political favors and money. it's sad to see so many of them 'representing' us.

[stopbush]

63. The difference between a whore and a slut - a whore will sleep

with anyone. A slut will sleep with anyone but you.

This is a gender-neutral comment.

[ejpoeta]

65. ooh i like that. very good one. it's amazing how people can be when they feel

left out.

[Plucketeer]

67. Not that I partake of such services, but

I think I'd get better return for a hundred bucks than I would for 140 million! Of course, I'd be the first to admit that if we got Meg as our governor, we'd get screwed every day of her "service".

[stopbush]

64. Just like Tom Brokaw, who tried to make a false equivalency

in the debate between the word "whore" and the word "ni**er"...except that he spoke the word "whore" while using the phrase "the N-word" instead of speaking the word "ni**er."

Which shows that in Tom Brokaw's mind, saying the n-word on TV is totally unacceptable, while saying "whore" on TV is OK. Ergo, calling a person a whore is not as bad as using the n word. Ergo, they aren't equivalent, at least to Brokaw.

[Eric J in MN]

77. No, she was asked about Pete Wilson (R), her campaign chairman saying it.

Neither Meg Whitman nor Jerry Brown called someone a whore, as far as we know.

[indimuse]

5. KNR! n/t

[Hepburn]

9. Funny cartoon...thanks! n/t

[dana_b]

36. LOL

love it!

[indimuse]

6. KNR! n/t

[Eugenian]

7. What's that odor?

"Please take me out of my body, up through the palm trees, to smell California in sweet hypocrisy."
- Max Bemis. Say Anything, Woe.

[MrMickeysMom]

8. Please see the hypocrisy, and also see the difference...

The hypocrisy of Whitman is evident, but my God... Doesn't CA want a leader? Then, I hope California votes BROWN!

I think she's a over-financed, trickled-down-economics, 1/10th of 1% whore, (my apology to sex workers, yes). At least sex workers know what they're supposed to do!

[tomm2thumbs]

62. lol - I love that

You're right - Meg is no whore - at least a whore knows what he or she is supposed to do

[MrMickeysMom]

86. I remember Mike Malloy's disclaimer...

... "No offense to sex workers!"

Good to see ya, t2t! :hi:

[fasttense]

10. That Union made a deal with the devil.

I remember another RepubliCON Politician who wrote a letter to a small union saying they would support the union's efforts for better working conditions. But he did not keep his word.

"PATCO was one of a small handful of unions that endorsed Reagan in his bid to defeat incumbent President Jimmy Carter in 1980. But just months after Reagan took office, PATCO members found that support meant nothing.

Faced with the longest working hours of any air traffic controllers in the world, PATCO members sought to relieve the stress of their jobs through changes in their union contract with the Federal Aviation Administration. Their main demands centered on safer working conditions, including a 32-hour workweek, updated computer equipment and retirement after 20 years of service.

When the Reagan administration balked at these demands, PATCO called a strike. Federal employees however, are forbidden by law to walk off their jobs. On the first day of the strike on Aug. 3, 1981, some 15,000 controllers went out, causing the cancellation of thousands of airline flights across the country. Two days later, Reagan fired the striking controllers."

http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=cabal-elite/corporate/unions/reagan-era-of-union-busting.txt

[tomm2thumbs]

33. thanks for that info - had no idea of that history on PATCO supporting Reagan

and then to have that happen, it shows where support for Republican candidates EVER gets you

[defendandprotect]

80. And, basically, it would have made flying safer for the public ... remember it well!!

But, the MSM didn't frame it that way!!

[AlinPA]

11. That is the first time I have ever seen her speak - she looks and sounds arrogant.

[ThomThom]

18. She doesn't seem to take an apology very well

No grace there, it was a private phone call. Brown shouldn't have to apologize.
I want to know who is listening in on Brown's staff and recording it, that is a crime.

[Zambero]

28. Whitman didn't want an apology

And when it was forthcoming it really threw her off. The subsequent "outrage" really made her look bad, as did the refusal to apologize for HER staff's rude remark. The audience reaction only affirms how phony this person really is.

[Paranoid Pessimist]

66. Of course, she doesn't want an apology.

It's a political issue. Anything to make her opponent look bad. I hope Brown wins although not with all that much enthusiasm, but the California campaign is boiling down to flooding the TV channels with attack ads without anybody saying anything. The Jerry Brown ad with Meg Whitman's "nose just growing and growing" is just as awful as her ads.

According to news reports, polls have her and Brown close, Boxer and Fiorina close, with both Republican ladies having enough cash to sponsor every other commercial shown between now and election day.

Don't believe for a moment that California's can't be suckers for a media-driven appeal. We here threw Grey Davis out as governor, believing that Ah-nold would come into Sacramento and be like an action movie hero, throwing politicians who dithered around making self-serving deals out the window, kicking ass on all the "girly men" who couldn't get a budget passed.

Jerry Brown is a fascinating character. I hope I live long enough to read a definitive biography of him; certainly one of the most varied lives of anyone in American political history. Will there be a second coming of "Governor Moonbeam"? Will it have positive results in the face of ongoing environmental, economic, and infrastructure problems? Stay tuned if you can suppress your gag response through the barrage of commercials that watching ANY TV between now and 11/2/10.

[BetterThanNoSN]

32. she didn't want one...

that would've taken her off her pre-planned attack on his 'assault on Californians women'. She was playing that card even if he got down on his knees during that apology.

[JSK]

68. The comment was on a voicemail message

Brown left a message and thought he had hung up. The comments were made after he thought he had ended the call and they were recorded on the voice mail of the person he had called.

[defendandprotect]

81. It was a campaign aide who made the comment ... NOT Jerry Brown .....

Here's the story as someone posted it lower down on thread ....

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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/whore-remark...

"It all started late last week when a recording surfaced of a Brown aide suggesting that the Democrat call Whitman a "whore" for cutting a deal with state employee unions.
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It isn't clear where the tape came from.

One theory is that Jerry Brown left someone a voicemail, and then didn't completely hang up the phone.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=514281&mesg_id=514532

[TheEuclideanOne]

71. I was thinking the same thing

If I had to base my opinion solely on the impression that she gives off, she would be in big trouble.

On a semi-related note, he handled the Whore thing really well IMHO. She came across as somebody who was trying to make a bigger deal out of it than it probably deserved. It would have been funny to hear him go the other direction and just keep calling her a whore. I can picture him ending each point with "Why?....Because your a Whore!". I bet he could even get the audience to follow along if he did it enough. Oh well... I guess those bits will be saved for SNL.

[DemocraticPilgrim]

12. Cali. gets it very reassuring the last thing the GOP is known for is women's rights.

[defendandprotect]

82. Schwartzenegger was rather a strong message against female equality -- !!! Wow!!

[mwb970]

13. Meg seems less appealing every time I see her.

Why are all republicans so awful? Is it something they eat?

[tavalon]

84. I think there has been a secret whistletone sent out

that has caused all the degenerates to crawl out from under their rocks and run this year. Sadly, I think I know what sent out the whistle - Citizen's United.

[txlibdem]

14. Anyone see Reid Wilson totally misread the audience reaction?

Was watching Washington Journal and as usual the guest list is heavily weighted toward conservative viewpoints. They had on Reid Wilson of The Hoe List, or Hottie List or something (no, wait, that's Eliot Spitzer, aka Client #9). Anyway. Reid Wilson is an idiot.

The audience was booing and hooting at Meg Wackjob and Reid's answer to viewing that clip was to bash the Dem. Idiot.

[indimuse]

15. didn't see that..but

seems to be theme all over MSM! sux!

[SemperEadem]

17. you caught that, too?

like all in the MSM, he is confusing what voters think with what the press CHOOSES to chase down and force to fit into the narrative they want to advance, which is "dems are in deep trouble and the thugs are going to win by a landslide".

Anytime you spend all of your time closed up in an office building in DC and never venture outside the beltway--hell, venture anywhere west of the I-95 corridor, and you will see that the things that have got the press all a flutter does not fly. at. all.

The press whips up counterfeit stories and then wonders why their is such an enthusiasm gap--it's because our panties are not caught up in a bunch like theirs seem to be.

[Eugenian]

72. SacBee columnist Dan Walters

also seems to have lost his grasp on reality:

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/10/13/3100230/dan-walters-whitman-may-have-won.html

[dotymed]

16. Am I right?

This is the sleaze ball Whitman debating her Democratic opponent, Jerry Brown, and he is also anti-union? This Fascist country is too much to believe. Even our "peoples candidates" blame our problems on Unions? Look at the Banksters....

[chervilant]

23. Yes,

We have a democrat running here in my district whose placards bear the disclaimer:

"Save NASA. Impeach President Obama."

This is BEYOND disturbing to me!

[think]

30. That's not a Democrat

That's a REAL WHORE. Any Democrat who advocates Obama's impeachment is the true definition of a political whore..........

[Stellar]

59. Exactly !

I was like, what the he//! :o

[lame54]

19. she won't accept a sincere apology...

because it means they would have to get back to the actual campaign

that shows her character more than anything

[NewJeffCT]

20. All I heard this morning was about one of Brown's staffers calling

Whitman a "bitch" and Brown compounding the problem during the debate.

[tomm2thumbs]

21. she says he's 'defending the comment' as he apogizes to her, what a horse's ass

if that tells you everything you need to know about much you can 'trust Meg', that's it right there. A spoiled brat who, when offered by the teacher to shake hands with her opponent, kicks the hand being offered and then has a paid-bully grab him from behind so she can kick him in the face.

And this, although Jerry never even used the term himself yet is still is willing to take full blame and apologize

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Her campaign should be embarrassed by this behavior -- it's a wonder they sleep at night

[tomm2thumbs]

29. * my sincere apologies to horse's asses

[Can of Whoop-ass]

46. Yeah Jerry Brown. Yeah!

What's with these 'foreigners"? Reagan from Indiana, Wilson from Chicago,
Arnold from Austria and Meg from Connecticut? Don't Californa have any
viable politicians?
Yeah Jerry Brown. Yeah!
Jerry Brown WILL get my vote.

[butterfly77]

75. We need more like Brown and Grayson..

straight talkers,there are others but not as many as we need.

[defendandprotect]

83. Right ... agree wholeheartedly -- !!

[demwing]

87. I think its worse than that. I think she had this scripted response

that Brown totally fucked up for her, and she couldn't think outside of the script.

I think she's a true idiot.

[liberation]

91. Exactly. She just had a script and was using it...

... wether it made sense or not.

However, then the Democrat went onto outdo the republican in terms of union-busting. We're fucked either way, really. I weep...

[Hamlette]

22. can't tell from the clip what happened, some back story please? n/t

[Eric J in MN]

78. the story

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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/whore-remark-takes-center-stage-at-jerry-brown-meg-whitman-debate-video.php

"It all started late last week when a recording surfaced of a Brown aide suggesting that the Democrat call Whitman a "whore" for cutting a deal with state employee unions.
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It isn't clear where the tape came from.

One theory is that Jerry Brown left someone a voicemail, and then didn't completely hang up the phone.

[MikeMc]

24. Right after Brown's apology, Whitman accuses him of defending his staff,

because she was programmed, pre-debate to say both 'your apology isn't good enough', and 'why won't you apologize instead of defending your staff?' ThomThom is right about the illegal recording issue, so Meg is saying that Brown's apology, for the illegal repug wiretapping of the Brown campaign, isn't good enough, then she immediately denies that he apologized.

Nobody can name a repug that represents either women's rights, or union rights. But everyone can name dozens of repugs that are campaigning against women and union rights. Put Brown in, keep Whitman out, then make Brown honor pensions through Federal Democratic action.

[Moostache]

26. Is it just me?

Or does Meg Whitman look an awful lot like the worm-judge in the end sequence of Pink Floyd The Wall?

[FirstTimeVoterAt37]

34. You might be on to something...

[jeff47]

41. Um...

...that's not a worm.

[Moostache]

43. Yes I know that....its a giant ass, which makes it all the more apt a comparison!

In the song "The Trial", the barrister/prosecutor and later the mother refer to "Good morning, Worm your honor." and "Worm, your honor, let me take him home." So, while it is true that the cartoon representation of the judge is in fact a male ass (complete with simulated tea-bagging movements - well, OK, not *really* tea-bagging per se...and defecations in the film), the creature is in fact referred to in the song as a worm.

Quod Erat Demonstrandum. :+ :toast:

[zeemike]

48. I believe you have something there

All ya gotta do is follow the worms...

[Politicalboi]

73. She fills me with the urge to defecate!

I think your onto something too. Tear Down the WALL!

[Iwillnevergiveup]

27. This was my first lengthy

exposure to Meg. Watched the entire debate and came away with 3 things:

*I'm glad I never worked for her.

*Whomever on DU likened her to "Chucky" was right on the mark.

*Glad my family members have early voted for Jerry Brown.

[valerief]

31. That was a great moment last night. Whitman is the smug shit in grammar school everyone hated.

Those types never outgrow their assholity.

[Uncle Joe]

37. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, tomm2thumbs.

[tomm2thumbs]

38. ahhhh

thanks...

but we have Meg to thank for this gem - she certainly has mapped out that route extending from her foot to her mouth quite handily, as she has made that trip so many times now.

[Uncle Joe]

40. Yes we do have Meg to thank for this gem, but

you took the initiative and started this thread, otherwise some of us might not know about it and for that contribution I believe you deserve thanks as well.

Peace to you,:hi:

[tomm2thumbs]

61. surely!

thanks for the sentiment - much appreciated - and hopefully people will continue to see through the Republican & Tea Party hypocrites and seek rational, level-headed Democratic leaders

Peace back atcha!

:hi:

[Hubert Flottz]

39. How could ANYBODY be stupid enough to not see through this

ass?

[The Wizard]

57. How could ANYBODY be stupid enough........?

Many people voted for Bush. This is the dumbest country in the industrialized world.

[disndat]

42. NutMeg Half-Whit

She does look like Chucky!

[Guilded Lilly]

45. I cannot abide women like Meg Whitman. Period.

But not because of her politics, though that is reason enough to dislike her.

I dislike that she perpetuates elitist hypocrasy and uses her gender over and over and over to beat a dead horse. Brown apologized. He should have. But that doesn't matter to her because she wants to play out the indignant female, and it was apparently beneath her to accept an apology because she wanted to berate a gender issue instead of actually debate substantive issues.

Her approach is offensive to a lot of intelligent women everywhere.

[highplainsdem]

47. K&R

[FirstTimeVoterAt37]

49. The coverage of this is weirding me out

I'm listening to Thom Hartmann on Progressive 1060, and they just ran an in-between news clip that did the exact same thing MSNBC has been doing today - cutting the audio off literally seconds before she exposes herself and gets the audience on her ass.

What the hell, man?

[stormpilot]

50. I would trust a wh0re before I trust MW!!!

-Stormpilot

[HankyDubs]

55. Well that's natural...

The average sex worker has much more dignity and personal integrity than Empress Meg has.

[California Griz]

51. Playing the sex card

Your right Meg California women are smart enogh to know exactly what is going on. That's obvious from the crowd reaction.

[DFW]

53. She probably has Karl Rove whispering in her ear

"Hey Meg, ALL states have voters like they do in South Carolina and Mississippi--you can say anything and we'll make it true."

I think old Meg fell for it, and was totally taken aback when the audience didn't behave like nodding sheep when she opened her mouth.

[chillspike]

54. Does anyone know if Fox News edited the laughter out at 1:03?

This morning a conservative family member I think had Fox News on and they were showing this video but I didn't hear any crowd laughter when Meg said "That's a completely different thing".

Is there any way to check this?

[tomm2thumbs]

58. you can guess that Fox would probably do that

Meg had to repeat herself because of the crowd response, so if you can see what FoxNews showed, see if they cut it out between her repeating herself - it would probably be hard to cover that up unless they were purposely commenting over that part and dropped the audio to pretend it was necessary for the commentator to make a point.

FoxNews has no boundaries when altering news stories:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCQ4gAAVW2k

[chillspike]

94. LOL...I've seen that video you posted before

Fox News is just garbage.

And they again showed the Whitman-Brown debate cutting the video before the crowd laughter at Whitman.

[happygoluckytoyou]

60. get that whore out of california..... and I APPROVE THAT MESSAGE

[Gabi Hayes]

69. should be GOPOH

goddamned obnoxious party of hypocrisy

not too good, but I have other priorities, momentito

[budkin]

70. Pwned. That race is OVER.

[earcandle]

74. the MSNBC news clip on chn 60 framed Brown badly,

not showing the full video where he responds to this incident thoroughly and respectfully.

On MSNBC TV (Channel 60: Andrea Mitchell's news channel... Greenspan's wife...) they framed this as a weakness of character on his part that he did not apologize, but if they rolled tape you would see that he did. These are lies by omission. Please note who dunnit. Don't let these people report anymore. This is an ethics issue for sure.

Make it one.

We need some ethics, logic, and passion back in our investigative reporting to start provoking critical thoughts.

This article establishes that for me. I can't thank you enough for modeling what it looks like and I hope I can help make more of an impact so we can get out of the hands of criminals and get our bank balances back.

IMNSHO: Meg is NOT RIGHT for CA. Neither was SCHWARZENEGGER>>> Look at the results of his reign.

Whatever, we have to learn to work with what we got so that our moves are authentic. That is high integrity and very powerful impact. I wish I had more power. I just cannot influence anyone... well, a few who support me, but they would prefer I be sweet, if they could add anything. I told them it I was raised with four assertive brothers. Anyway, my husband just told me to say "and my husband thinks I am plenty sweet already."

I SAY: Be OK.

"I'm Okay, You're Okay" was a useful book that worked for people thirty, forty years ago when people were in repair. We had more critical thinking happening in our inflows and outflows that sparked our economy.

Also "Games People Play" helps immensely if you prefer to opt out of the games within the rules of the games people don't even know they are playing.

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Get good people to manage your staff and make that happen with controls in place for operations. They just have to follow instructions to the T, and deliver the results. And then you are free... at least when it comes to your time and money, and that is big. Start a business. Look at the page here

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Anyway, Brown would help us get set up for small businesses, I am sure. Build it and they will come!

[KurtNYC]

76. he smoked her

and the audience lapped it up

[defendandprotect]

79. Thank you -- love Jerry Brown and hope he makes it -- !!

[demwing]

85. You know, I'm guessing she rehearsed this line

That "Ohhh oooohhhh" bullshit, and really expected it to turn around and hurt Brown. Classic deflection.

Then she got clowned by Brown. Then she got laughed at. Then she got booed.

I bet she really imagined this bit going differently in her head.

[Scurrilous]

88. K & R

:thumbsup:

[wial]

89. I hadn't realized

but seeing her in that clip, Meg Whitman is a truly awful person. Just slime. A horrifying quality. What's wrong with her? How could anyone support her? Yuck, is all I can say.

[blue sky at night]

90. the thing pukes hate the most is the truth....

THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH....so if someone calls her a whore it hurts, because she fucking knows it IS THE TRUTH

[deacon]

92. A critical point missing. CA. has the 7th larget economy in the world!

And her plan is bushonomics. A win by Whitman will have horrible consequences for everyone!

[Liberty Belle]

93. Is the full debate posted anywhere yet? video or transcript?