Abused & arrested for being Democrat at Eric Cantor event

[Tx4obama]

Run time: 01:34 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AOmXhmZq4o   Posted on YouTube: October 25, 2010 By YouTube Member: Joannap00le Views on YouTube: 423   Posted on DU: October 26, 2010 By DU Member: Tx4obama Views on DU: 8172

 
Video description at YouTube:
This video was taken by the son of the man being subdued. He took it with his cellphone. This man was asked to leave the Solid Grounds Coffeehouse in Louisa, Virginia, at a public event for Eric Cantor. The man was sitting at a table waiting for Cantor to arrive. Then police asked him to leave and, when they got him outside, they arrested him, after an excessive amount of force, as you can see in the video. They came back and arrested the person who videotaped the incident, even though he was on a public sidewalk. They did not arrest, but gave a citation to, a woman with a small child.

The video shows the officers subduing the man, cuffing him, and then another policeman racing in and knocking the man to the ground.
Apparently, the event was only for Republicans although it was advertised as open to the public and the man on the ground had an invitation. Democrats had "Waugh for Congress signs" outside. They, too, were cleared out of a public sidewalk and forced to go across the street with their signs.
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Article regarding incident: http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/voter-suppression-republican-style

[usregimechange]

1. Call the ACLU or a good attorney and the media.

[defendandprotect]

85. CONTACT FOR ERIC CANTOR'S offices .....

Washington, DC

329 Cannon Building
Washington, DC 20515
P: 202.225-2815
F: 202.225-0011



Richmond

4201 Dominion Blvd, #110
Glen Allen, VA 23060
P: 804.747-4073
F: 804.747-5308

Culpeper

763 Madison Rd #207
Culpeper, VA 22701
P: 540.825-8960
F: 540.825-8964



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His E-mail seems to be limited to "constituents" --

[herbm]

2. And they're actualy wearing brown-shirts. Yoiks. Yep, no supression of the Bill of Rights here,

people, continue about your business, there's nothing happening here! How many times in the last week has this happened? There are some serious proto facsists out there.

[Bobbieo]

5. This is what America has become - Nazi Germany!!

[defendandprotect]

75. Agree ... and we've been watching this develop for decades ....

certainly with violent attacks on the right of the people to freedom of assembly!!

One kind of cruel and brutal policing on top of another --

and here we are now --

Looks like the 500 pound whale of a police officer may have broken this man's arm --

if not his ribs and skull --

And, why? Because a Democrat had the gall to be present at a Republican rally???

We are insane!!

[glinda]

12. I think some of the police forces have been replaced with militia people.

There are now too many incidents where this is happening. There needs to be an investigation or this will continue to get worse.

[jotsy]

45. I read somewhere about 18 months ago that many police forces in the country

were participating in training programs to mirror companies like Blackwater.

I knew then that any problem the people have with the 'peacekeepers' were only going to get worse.

I'd love to say I'm not surprised, but this crap shocks me every time.

My country is dead and this is some sick twisted imposter.

[glinda]

118. My husband's son under police training and FBI training went to Texas to the

home of one of the Blackwater people. It was part of the training. I have never trusted him since I hate to say.

[defendandprotect]

77. Going back decades, have heard KKK and other racists were being hired

by police departments -- look at what happened here in NJ with "racial profiling"

on our highways. They were put under Federal supervision eventually -- but don't

know what's happening under Obama -- that happened under Clinton/Janet Reno.


When JFK was killed, 50% of the Dallas police force were KKK --

When Bobby Kennedy was killed in LA -- 50% of the LAPD were John Birchers --

I'm sure there are going to be many jobs opened to the Blackwater merecenaries as

they return from Iraq!

Always someone willing to wear the right wing tyrants black/brown shirt!!


This man did nothing -- and shouldn't have been arrested -- nor harassed by police.

Trust there will be a huge lawsuit.

And, many some jurors will recognize that a 500 pound policeman laying on top of

someone is cruel and unusual punishment!!???

[HillbillyBob]

22. Nope not protofascists, full blown fool grown nazis

For years some of us aside from SPLC have watched these things growing like a cancer, when we spoke up and said nazis are in the US we were shouted down or insulted.

I have been watching this movement of Dominionism , warriors for jebus, KKK, white survival groups and the back and forth flow between the groups since they share so much in common they are almost a common group in that they want to overthrow our democracy aided and abetted by funding from corporates (I have no proof, but how the hell can a bunch of lower income folks get all those weapons and armaments?). Make no mistake they are armed with quite an arsenal, at least a number made claims, with detailed descriptions of rpg, various heavy machine guns, uzis..
And stop and think how many of those our armed forces are training with the idea that they will overthrow the civilian government and install a theocracy which as you and I know will really just be corporatocracy in disguise. The evilgelical movement in all its forms disturbs me greatly, the evilgelical movement in our armed forces freeks me out.

I went to the churches, and spied on some meetings. I have been well away from all that since I saw a survivalist type overlap group out in the everglades with DEA agents and Columbian offloading a plane load of cocaine. I left that area about 2 wks later and have not been anywhere near them.
Hell we made sure that the county we moved to did NOT have any hate groups.

[BonnieJW]

64. Cantor should be ashamed.

He is Jewish and these tactics should be abhorent to him. I can't believe this is taking place in this country. I am astonished at the insulted look you get when you point out this is the same kind of behavior Nazi's used in the beginning of their takeover. It IS the same methodology. I don't care what Jon Stewart says; it's not hysterical to make the comparison.

[defendandprotect]

78. There IS only one way the right wing can rise and that is by VIOLENCE ....

stolen elections and lies --

This has been out in the open violence since the coup on JFK in '63 --

with no government and no free press left to say so!!


"The myth of a free press died with the assassination of Pres. John F. Kennedy."


It was, of course, also a coup on our "people's" government !!




:)

[Enthusiast]

101. It isn't the slightest

bit hysterical. There are many similarities to Nazi behavior.

[butterfly77]

114. They don't care..

its all about power.

[monmouth]

3. Okay, this is really starting to get out of control. Are we going to stand

by and allow citizens to be hurt like this?

[derby378]

10. I'm thinking a citizen's arrest of those cops is in perfect order

Let them answer for their deeds before a judge.

[Michigan J. Frog]

14. Have you ever

Have you ever seen a judge rule against a police officer?
Why are these assholes always fat & obese. Does their police Dept's have no physical requirements?

[KamaAina]

88. Two words: dough nuts.

:P

[butterfly77]

16. Its being going on..

for a long,long,time..

[Scruffy1]

33. Liberals have been doing it my whole life.

All I hear from them is "your hurting our cause" if you speak up against the fascists. They think that by being nice to them they'll change ,or something.

[MikeMc]

55. Yeah, S 1, but it's a classic case of 'sticks and stones'

Just tune them out, and worry about the nazis.

[defendandprotect]

80. I've never heard that ... "fascism" and corporate fascism has long been recognized

as what's going on in America --

[crim son]

50. Apparently.

Yes, apparently we are.

[herbm]

56. To counter this we have to call it what it is: fascism. This string is not out of control and these

incidents are not random happenings. Thugs are policing public events and and it is systematic. Talking about victims without fingering the culprits is a useless execise.If these thugs are representitive of the candidates they "protect" than the election of these candidate will unleash these thugs on the rest of us when they take over.

[monmouth]

57. Agreed and I could cry to see what has happened to this country...n/t

[herbm]

62. Me, too. As a vet and a Republican I cannot believe what I see going on in campaigns by alleged Gop

candidates. What makes Pallin a Republican? Or O'Donnel? Or Rand Paul???? or Palandino? These are greedy selfish dolts who don't even understand they are stalking dogs for plutocrats and "business" interests, a lot of them offshore. If I hear one more teabagger claim to be a Republican, I will vote a straight Dem ticket. As it is I haven't been able to vote Gop for the last three Presidential elections and my congressman (Conway), while a nice guy who did support the banking bailout but is otherwise mostly a teabagger and my senator (Cronyn) will never ever get my vote. And haven't yet gotten one from me. At least Conway does personaly respond to my e-mails and gives me answers. I don't like his answers and common courtesy is too low of a bar for me to support him.

[YankeeLeft7x]

4. Eric Cantor - Another Republican Thug!!!!!!

Cantor is just another GOP thug like his fellow wankers in the Republican Party.

Cantor is a so-called new "Young Gun" in the Rebranded GOP but he is actually nothing but a P.O.S. and then some.

[rexcat]

6. This is what we saw for 8 years during the Bush*

years. It appears to be starting all over again.

[PatrynXX]

7. Oh thats right... the public are Republicans

looks like a micro version of Minneapolis...

[Charleston Chew]

8. There is a way to behave in such incidents.

Watching people who do not know how to deal with law enforcement always makes me cringe.

[janet118]

44. Watching police officers who do not know how to deal with people

makes me cringe.

[defendandprotect]

81. This violence is purposeful .... it's brutal and cruel policing -- intentionally....

They guy who knocked him down and laid on him looked like a 500# whale --

[Demstud]

106. What do you mean?

I'm not sure what you're talking about (and no, I've never had to deal with law enforcement).

[bongbong]

9. IOKIYAR

repigs openly carry machine guns at rallies with no hassle, but Liberals get arrested for breathing. What a beautiful place America is!

[Ticonderoga]

35. All I can tell my liberal friends

Is arm yourselves. It's coming.

[mistertrickster]

96. I'm doing my part, hehe. I should wear a button on: Ask me about my gun collection . . . nt

[MikeMc]

11. It all boils down to a muttered phrase during the 'melee' --

'Fucking repuglicans'.

Dear repugs,
bring it to Pittsburgh, PA. We'll whip your sorry behinds, nazis. This is a personal guarantee. Meet me under Kaufmann's Clock, Wednesday {Oct 27} at Noon.

By the way, that fat pig in the brown shirt: how did he ever get over the physical fitness obstacle course? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Scruffy1]

34. Come to Minneapolis and meet us at the anti fascist league

Some of these ashats tried to have a rally here. They made other plans.

[MikeMc]

54. All power to the Minn anti-fascists, Scruff.

Thank you for the invite. I heard good things about Minneapolis St.Paul, and I'd love to visit, if circumstances permit. But we have our own whack-jobs, that need tending in Pitt. (Recent spate of Beck teabagger shootings, and Khristian Identity lurking all around the hinterlands. Plus, we have the sheiss-kopf Mellon family here.)

Pgh. anti-nazi slogan:
'We
Can't
Wait To See
Your 2nd Amendment
Rem e dy'

Got a good beat, and it seems as effective as 'The people, united, will never be defeated', because at least it rhymes.

[niceypoo]

58. When the cops heard that, it was over

Did you see the one cops face when he heard it? They weren't acting as cops, they were acting as republicans.

[MikeMc]

89. You're right, though they had already mauled the 'suspect'

Long before they heard someone else call them that.

So the repug-nazi ship had already sailed, before the 'f' & 'a' bombs were dropped.

[Bitwit1234]

13. This is getting to be too much I thought we lived in America

but since this happened in Virginia we know anything goes if you happen to be Democrat.

On our local genealogy mail list someone posted a comment about income taxes, than posted an apology because they hit the wrong button. You are not supposed to post anything but genealogy questions, answers, or information. Before they apologized some people wondered by the posted it. A lister said it was probably a Democrat they'd do anything. Well right away the administrator of the list jumped in and said she had gotten over 100 messages of complaint to ban the person from the list. Most said that it didn't make any difference about republican or Democrat it was inappropriate to post a political message. Of course I un subscribed and emailed the administrator also, I was upset that it slipped thru. they did ban the person and she can't post.
They were thinking about banning her from all Virginia lists but only did the one county were she posted the message. So you see anything like that can happen in Virginia.

[butterfly77]

15. KEEP EM COMING!!!

[howaboutme]

17. "Speaker of the House"

He's the rising star that has been groomed for this slot by the lobby for 10 years..guaranteed.

[lobodons]

18. We are not being told the full story here

Asked to leave a public event? Was it public or not? Can the Coffeehouse refuse customers as they see fit using the phrase "we reserve the right to refuse customers as we see fit"? What is he being arrested for?

[angstlessk]

19. did you notice he was OUTSIDE?

[sam sarrha]

20. they cant if they sell stuff from other states...

[amyrose2712]

66. Yea, not that I like what has been happening but I

would like to see what happened before the video. Just to get the full story.

[moblsv]

21. Was that a Walrus?

Poor guy was being restrained while some sort of Marine Mammal flopped on him.

[indimuse]

125. loooooooool!!

I needed that laugh! :rofl:

[Hubert Flottz]

23. The Storm Trooper Takedown.

The Nazis ARE HERE!

[AtheistCrusader]

67. If those were storm troopers, I have a hippopotamus that could pass for a family dog.

[pokercat999]

24. Louisa is the county seat of Louisa County, VA. The

county courthouse is across the street in the video. It's a town of about 5000 or so, mostly poor. I live about 7 miles away on Lake Anna, the second largest lake in Virginia, built about 30 years ago to provide water for a nuclear power plant. The two brown shirts are Louisa County deputy sheriffs the guy in the blue uniform must be with the Louisa Town PD.

Sorry if this is a little disjointed but I'm totally shocked by the video. I can't imagine what the victim did to get arrested. I have to go to Richmond this morning but I'll try to find out more about what happened this afternoon. I will make my first visit to the Solid Grounds Coffeehouse if I have the time and post the results of my trip if possible.

I've lived nearby and shopped in Louisa for nine years. Typical of very small towns in central Virginia Louisa is traditionally a farming related community with a heavy Southern Christian population of conservatives. There has been some mellowing of the population with an influx of people from the Washington DC suburbs drawn to the shores of Lake Anna in the last 25-30 years but politically it is rethug country. This area like most in central VA has been hit fairly hard by the recession. About half of the store fronts in the video are empty and the housing market has collapsed.

Anyone else live in the area?

[The_Commonist]

29. I visited Louisa several years ago...

The Twin Oaks intentional community is in Louisa.
Yes folks, there's a big, notorious hippie commune a few miles from where this happened.

[ProgressiveinVA]

49. Twin Oaks

Twin Oaks is an amazing place with an amazing group of folks. I am friends with several folks residing at T.O.

[dgibby]

38. I grew up in a town in the western part of Va.,

same size as Louisa. Everybody knew everybody, so I'm betting the police knew this man, which makes this arrest even more egregious than if he were a stranger to them. I hope he gets the ACLU involved and sues them silly.

My dad was Chief of Police when I was growing up. I assure you he'd have fired those officers in a skinny minute (and he was a republican).

[ProgressiveinVA]

46. Right Wing Evangelical Coffee Shop

The coffee shop has a christian cross on its logo. I did a
little research and found out the owner is an extreme right
wing evangelical christian. She has christian groups holding
meetings at the coffee shop on a regular basis. I wonder if
she would be as welcoming to the Pagan community or any other
religious group.

[atreides1]

53. Maybe not Pagans, Muslims, Hindi, etc., etc., etc.

But she evidently didn't have a problem with welcoming Cantor, and the last time I checked he wasn't Christian!

[mistertrickster]

98. No kidding. Israel has to rebuild the temple so Jesus can come and convert the Jews.

Or some other totally non-Biblical horseshit.

Meanwhile, Arab Christians get their houses and lands stolen by Zionists in Israel the same as Arab Muslims, and the Fundy Con Christians don't have a bit of a problem with it.

It makes sense in CON World.

[janet118]

123. WWJS

Who would Jesus stomp?

[cheneyschernobyl]

69. Spotsy county

between Fredericksburg and Culpeper. Moved here last year.

[pokercat999]

104. Hartwood/Locust Grove area? I used to live in Stafford, we

moved to the lake in 2002.

Like it here?

[cheneyschernobyl]

112. Stafford County; but the mailing address is

Fredericksburg. Have relatives in the Chancellorsville Battlefield area. I'm from Arlington, so to me Spotsy is a quiet little speck on the map. Very little traffic or crime, and the cost of living isn't obscene.

The whole county/city subject confuses me to no end.

[Can of Whoop-ass]

25. What do these Robo-Cops Eat?

Spoonfulls of LARD? Man, these guy are morbidly obese to the point of blowing out their hearts at 30 and getting the city to pay their bills via that socialization Pugs hate so much.

[Aaria]

47. There's the secret, make them chase you.

[KansDem]

65. Nah, won't work...

They'll keel over when their fat-laden hearts stops beating from the strain, then the charge will be "assisting cardiac arrest."

[cheneyschernobyl]

72. You owe me a new keyboard!

:spray:

Kansas? I was stationed at McConnell AFB from 1997-2000.

[KansDem]

115. Been by there many times in my trips around Wichita...

...usually picking up Highway 54 on a trip out to the great Southwest.

This transplanted Californian has been living in the Lawrence/Kansas City area for about 31 years now.

Nice area! :hi:

edited to add:

[dgibby]

79. Dems.

They were just wrestlin' up some grub!

[BetterThanNoSN]

97. that fat sh*t...

almost landed squarely on the dudes head which would have pile driven his face right into the sidewalk. serious skull fracture was possible. also could have seriously hurt his neck when he was lifting him with his choke hold.

[rasputin1952]

26. Here comes a lawsuit....

If a man's arm is being held in front of him, how can he "put his hands behind his back?

I saw no resistance to arrest, I saw aggressive cops acting poorly. Any citizen can ask why they are being searched/arrested/charged with. The ACLU should be all over this, and plenty of lawyers might take this pro bono.

Has there been a serious drop in IQ points to be a cop these days?

[The Wizard]

27. Gestapo tactics

always have the standard response, "stop resisting." It gives them cover for crimes committed in the name of "protect and serve."
These fuckers need to be locked in a cell with prisoners who have been abused by police.
There's no nice way to say Nazi.

[indimuse]

126. agree 100%

;)

[Javaman]

28. It's building folks...

while some of the repukes are enjoying this stupidity as a tactic to get elected, the mouth breathing supports believe it to be the new way of life and look at it as completely legit.

we are entering into a new and very scary phase of politics.

I used to say, "ten years from now the US will be a very scary place" as little as a year ago.

Now, "4 years from now the US will be a very scary place".

Things will only start to change when the tea ball licking baggers turn on their own as not being "tea baggery enough".

Until then we are doing the (at first slow, but now picking up speed), slide toward fascism.

I have never owned a weapon in my life. I have nothing against them for anyone else, I just chose not to have one. I'm beginning to rethink my position on that.

[Scruffy1]

32. It's always been a scary place

If you happen to be a minority or if you disagree with the powers that be,

[Javaman]

51. While that is very very true...

it's as if the latent fascism, from the right, has come screaming out of the closet.

The wanton stupidity and nationalistic fervor of many of the tea bagging idiots candidates appears to encourage this type of behavior more and more.

[TatonkaJames]

30. His mistake was....

He wasn't carrying a gun like the republicans do at Democratic public events.
:sarcasm:

[anachro1]

31. I do not recognize

America anymore.

[AlbertCat]

41. I do not recognize America anymore.

Weren't around in the '60's, huh?

The problem for me is, there's only 1?...2?... 3? Dems there? Where was the crowd of Dems? If there had been a group.... it would look more like Satyagraha.

[anachro1]

119. Oh, yeah

I grew up in the 50's and was a rebellious teen.
Still a rebellious old man these days.

How literate!
I 'get' your Satyagraha reference.

[FailureToCommunicate]

36. Longtime police tactic: repeat loudly "Stop resisting arrest!" because that

carries a heavier sentence - even if you're not resisting arrest. It's unlikely, as the the kid's father was in a bear hug,pinned to the car, head-locked, then dropped to the ground and squashed by the massive sheriff, that he was able to resist anything. He looked unable to move in any manner. Lucky for him -maybe- the son's video survived both their arrests, and might sway a jury. But I wouldn't bet on it...

[janet118]

48. When the son objects to them blocking his camera

a cop accuses him of "cussing." It is clear from the audio that the son did not say anything that could be interpreted as a cuss word. And even if he did, when did the "no cussing at cops" law get passed?

Police are becoming more and more thuggish and partisan every day. I went to an Obama rally in Boston a couple of weeks ago. We stood in a @ fifteen-across barricaded line for 4 hours in a cold wind to get in. When they finally opened the doors (fifteen minutes late), we were told to walk in single file. There was a some understandable confusion about how to get from a crowd to single file but we were doing so in an orderly fashion. All of a sudden, a big fat cop standing at the head of the crowd went ballistic. He started screaming, with spittle spraying out of his mouth and his face all red and twisted, "Get in line or we can cancel this event!" It was so weird and over the top it stopped everyone in their tracks. Not only that, it raised the level of stress and anger in the crowd.

Don't these guys have any training? Fortunately, there were lots of Deval Patrick volunteers manning the entrance who were able to calm things down.

[defendandprotect]

82. You're missing the point -- this brutality and harshness is purposeful.....

They're hiring the type of guys who will carry out brutal policing --

[janet118]

122. Not missing the point . . .

have always believed that police culture is misogynistic, racist, and thuggish. Those who don't fit in with that culture usually quit. My point is that they SHOULD have training in how to calm, not escalate, a situation. Their training seems to be based on physical violence and verbal intimidation, which only serves to make a potentially respectful and peaceful conclusion less likely.

[geardaddy]

86. It's a bully tactic

"Stop hitting yourself" or "Come here I won't hurt you."

[orbitalman]

37. These Assholes need to be put OUT of their misery...

I heard "resisting arrest" when there was absolutely NO resistance. Not only are they WRONG, but they are LIARS as well to make excuse for their actions. Nazi Germany???

[marions ghost]

39. Nazis

...they think they have the "authority" to do this.

[backscatter712]

40. "STOP RESISTING!!!" - the official police battle cry when Rodney-Kinging a person.

They had the guy completely pinned, and both arms twisted behind his back, then started yelling "STOP RESISTING!" How was he supposed to resist?

By yelling "Stop resisting!", they can claim he was fighting when he wasn't, be able to legally hurt him, then be able to charge-stack him and ruin him legally and financially afterwards.

They LOOOOOVE this shit. Ruining people gives them hard-ons.

Every time you hear a cop saying "Stop resisting!", that's probably because they're using excessive force and deliberately saying that to cover their asses. Every time you year "Stop resisting!" it's police brutality.

FUCKING PIGS!!! I hate every single damned one of them.

[karmkay]

107. Didn't we see the same tactic in another video.

That fat bastard should be charged with assault with a deadly belly.

[dgibby]

42. More info here:

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2010/oct/26/cantgat26-ar-587561/

Article contains remarks by individual involved.

[Subdivisions]

74. Ugh! The comments from reich-wing baggers on that article...

To them, violence against political rivals is completely acceptable and the victims deserve it.

[dgibby]

76. The trick is to dehumanize the oposition

so you can justify violence against them. That's what makes them so dangerous.

[defendandprotect]

84. Ironic considering how the T-baggers disrupted so many Demoratic meetings....

you would think this guy had entered with a rifle over his shoulder!!???

[MikeMc]

87. + 1, d&p

Heads they win, tails we lose.

Of course, Catch-22 says they can do anything they want to us, that we don't have the power to prevent.

[Ian David]

43. Let's List the violent attacks by the Right Wingers

Let's List the violent attacks by the Right Wingers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9389907&mesg_id=9389907

[crim son]

52. That scene from American History X is exactly what I thought of

when I heard about the attack.

[Subdivisions]

73. +100 for the American History X reference. n/t

[SemperEadem]

59. I want to know how that big fat cop passed any physical fitness exams

and was certified that he is in peak physical condition in order to do his job.

He looks like he's never allowed a donut to pass him by.

[KansDem]

60. Actually, the police demonstrated an amazing amount of restraint...

They kept their Tasers holstered, didn't they?

:sarcasm:

[vaberella]

71. I don't think that state has tasers.

That fat guy just fell on the man. I'm fuckin' pissed.

[obxhead]

61. Wow, This is 30 minutes from my house.

I've been to Louisa for quite a few errands over the years and I can say it's a 4 traffic light town. I've known not to mess with the good ol' boy network there for quite some time, but I never thought it would come down to something like this.

It sucks living in this district. :(

[gauguin57]

63. It's open season on dissent -- Democratic dissent.

Cretins.

[RoccoR5955]

68. Welcome to the Police States of America...

...where the police don't have to obey the law, because they ARE the law.

Chances are, that fat pig of a cop has a relative on the force, who "helped" him pass the physical.

[vaberella]

70. Another one, and this by the police. Fascist pricks---peaceful assembly is now against the law. n/t

[defendandprotect]

83. Wasn't it interference with the Right to Freedom of Assembly that actually brought

about our Revolution?

Of course, the British didn't have soldiers on steroids then --

drones and microwave weapons -- not even tasers!!

[earcandle]

90. We need to take action against violence in our election process. We have the right to question our

opponents.  No one has the right to obstruct our ability to
have our questions answered.

This is evidence of a NAZI take over in our peace officers. 
They are way out of hand. 

[DFW]

91. What will these depraved tubs of lard do......

.....when we finally start to give as good as we have been getting?

Do they think we are all unarmed pacifists who like getting physically abused for our belief in our constitution?

[KurtNYC]

94. Taylor went there to confront, he wouldn't leave when asked and

he resisted arrest -- hardly a pacifist. If they didn't have so much trouble cuffing him there would be no video.

I think the choir of responses on this thread are missing the point and the title of the video is blatant lie. The point should be the lengths that this GOP candidate will go to to avoid debate.

[mistertrickster]

100. Why should he have to leave? I saw no evidence he was resisting either. nt

[bos1]

103. no vid of what happened before this, and he does seem to be resisting.

He says "this is not a legal arrest" or something like that, I believe. I am not defending the cops, who seem clownish and heavy-handed, but again we don't know what happened before this, and he does seem to be resisting (civil disobedience requires no resisting to arrest). Another question is, what if this had been a Tea Party Republican sitting in a small event for Harry Reid? Would we support his right to be there? Would we be glad that he was forcibly ejected if he created a disturbance? (I think these people have a right to be there but should not try to destroy the democratic function of the event, and when they do that is when the grey area begins.) Again, maybe this guy was peacefully attending the event and then physically ejected which led to all this, in which case the security and the cops are all guilty. I'd like to know more. Where's the regular news link to this?

[dgibby]

117. More info in my post (#42) above with link to Richmond Times-Dispatch.

According to Richmond Times-Dispatch, he was a known Dem, and he and 3 other Dems were there to ask Cantor why he wouldn't debate the Dem. candidate. It was billed as a public meeting, but the owner requested that he leave prior to Cantor's arrival. The altercation started on the street.

[KurtNYC]

108. if one goes to an event -- a convention, a football game, a wedding,

a phony GOP town hall-ish thingy, let's say, with the intention of confronting someone there and disrupting what they want to do then one should expect at the very least to be asked to leave. Rosa Parks didn't expect to just ride unbothered in the front of the bus to her destination. The goal of protest and confrontation politics is confrontation.

[DFW]

109. the OP says:

"Apparently, the event was only for Republicans although it was advertised as open to the public and the man on the ground had an invitation."

If this was indeed the case, no one had any legal basis for using force to make him leave, and the expulsion as well as the arrest were illegal.

I think the lengths Republican candidates will go to avoid debate are well-documented nationwide. This is a point that has long been established. They would only preach to their dining room tables--anything with a higher IQ might ask a question they are incapable of answering.

[KurtNYC]

110. since no one can tell someones politics simply by looking at them

I have to think that they did something to out themselves before Cantor even sneaked into the shop through the back door. The shop owner says he asked them to leave and he has a right to do that (which may be why this was NOT in a public place). You can get thrown out of a private business for any reason. And again, that is why Cantor doesn't have a real town hall.

[dgibby]

116. This is a town of 5,000,

so there's a good chance everyone there knew everyone else if they were locals.

According the the Richmond Times-Dispatch, he was there to confront Cantor about why he wouldn't debate the Dem. candidate. Link to the paper is in my post above.

[KurtNYC]

121. i have read some of the other accounts

and I don't fault his motives. But if this vid is all he got from it then god bless him for his efforts but it just isn't as outrageous as some would claim.

[lillypaddle]

92. I have high blood pressure

I can't watch this video. I am upset at even reading the paragraph that summarizes what took place. Jeesus H. Christ!!! How can these people get away with this??? :mad:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

93. Ahh, freedom.

What patriots these Fascists are. :puke:

[mistertrickster]

95. Let me guess, in three days the "charges" will be dropped . . .

Oh, goodie.

Just like Henry Gates, Jr. who was arrested for being in his house while black.

Thank goodness, the victim isn't victimized twice.

We should all be so grateful.

[JohnWxy]

99. Republicans more freely exposing their true nazi nature.

recommended!

[RayStar]

105. Just awful

They are exposing something very vile an ugly.

[Enthusiast]

102. The world is keeping

a watchful eye on the U.S. The world knows what happened under the Bush Administration in Iraq etc. They also know Bush didn't win either election. The Europeans know fascism when they see it - they have seen it up close.

[Riley18]

111. Time for the people to stand up to these fascists.

[Riley18]

113. The next thing is they will shoot their victims and take the

phone from their dead hands. Those nazis will not be stopped easily.

[activa8tr]

120. Any MSM media picking up on this? If not...........

why not?

[indimuse]

124. And WHAT country is this??

THIS HS TO STOP!!! NOW!!!





kNR!