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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:06 PM
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Olbermann SPECIAL COMMENT: 'If the Tea Party Wins, America Loses' (TRANSCRIPT)
Edited on Wed Oct-27-10 09:42 PM by Hissyspit
 
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MSNBC Countdown w/ KEITH OLBERMANN - Oct. 27, 2010: Keith enumerates the extremist views of the Tea Party and right-wing candidates and gives a warning. This comment is a LONG one because there are so many Tea Party/Republican wacky beliefs and quotes for him to list. Some of the beliefs are just ignorant, some are absurd, many are despicable and indefensible.

As @Shoq tweeted: "Most Americans have not see all the crazy in one place. Now they can."

PART TWO: http://www.youtube.com/user/MOXNEWSd0tCOM#p/u/0/oHmDi6xOwHY

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39875964

Olbermann: If the Tea Party wins, America loses

The laws of the country will revert backwards because of its new government


By Keith Olbermann
Anchor, 'Countdown'
msnbc.com
updated 8 minutes ago

SPECIAL COMMENT

Now as promised a Special Comment on the madness of the Tea Party and the elections of next Tuesday.

It is as if a group of moderately talented performers has walked on stage at a comedy club on Improv night. Each hears a shout from the audience, consisting of a bizarre but just barely plausible fear or hatred or neurosis or prejudice.

- snip -

Result: the Tea Party. Vote backward, vote Tea Party. And if you are somehow indifferent to what is planned for next Tuesday, it is nothing short of an attempt to use Democracy to end this Democracy, to buy America wholesale and pave over the freedoms and the care we take of one another, which have combined to keep us the envy of the world.

You do not think your freedom is at stake next Tuesday?

The Tea Party-and-Republican candidate for senator from Nevada, Sharron Angle, compared rape to, quoting, "a lemon situation in lemonade." She would deny an abortion even to a teenaged girl who had been raped by her own father.

The Tea Party-and-Republican candidate to be the only Congressman in Delaware, Glen Urquhart, said "there is no problem that abortion can't make worse. I know good friends who are the product of rape."

Mr. Urquhart also does not believe the phrase "separation of church and state" was said by Thomas Jefferson.
He thinks it was Hitler: "The next time your liberal friends ask you about the separation of church and state, ask them why they are Nazis."

- snip -

The Tea Party-and-Republican candidate for Senator from Kentucky Rand Paul wishes to repeal the 14th amendment because it interferes with a private business's right to ban black people from its premises, and also because it allows anyone born here in America to be American. He is worried about anchor babies.

The Republican candidate for the 1st District of Texas, Louie Gohmert, fears not anchor babies but terror babies — unborn infants brought to this country in the womb, ready for American citizenship and pre-programmed to blow things up fifteen or twenty years from now. Curiously, he has not been asked if he is in favor of aborting them.

- snip -

Mr. Raese of West Virginia told the Associated Press that "America is in an industrial coma" and blamed the "restrictor plate" that is "a bloated federal government." "I can't think," he added, "of very many times when a government agency has helped me."

The companies Mr. Raese owns have received $2.4 million in contracts from the federal government since 2000, and $32 million in contracts from the state government since 2000.

CONTINUED LISTING OF WINGNUT STUPIDITY IN VIDEO AND AT LINK

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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:09 PM
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1. Just finished watching it.
Powerful, and he is right. We will have only ourselves to blame. GET OUT THE VOTE
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:21 PM
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2. +1
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:24 PM
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3. EVERYONE needs to send it to EVERYONE they know :) n/t
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:23 PM
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87. sending it as you speak....
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:33 PM
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4. I bow down to you
Thank you for posting the transcript..........
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:37 PM
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5. The powerful truth about what this country is toying with.
playing with a fire that will consume them ...FASCSISM....PLAIN AND SIMPLE JACKBOOT FASCISM TO PROTECT THE POWERFUL FROM WE THE VOTERS while the band plays on.
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timefortherevolution Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:08 PM
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12. Frighteningly true.
Bush will look like Roosevelt compared to this coming crop.
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theaocp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:39 PM
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6. Ridiculously powerful. k&r
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:41 PM
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7. Wow, a lot more freaks than I've seen......
on my local news in Reno, I guess they want their Obama '08 moment
sooo bad no matter who gets in. K& R
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 09:58 PM
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8. The Koch brothers are cackling and rubbing their hands in glee
and salivating at the endless possibilities.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 10:16 PM
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9. Corrected Shoq quote:
"Most Americans have not seen all the crazy in one place. Now they can."
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:17 AM
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42. And that's the tip of the iceberg
not one quote from former Club for Growth President Pat Toomey ("I was tea party before there was a tea party"), who is running for Senate from Pennsylvania.

Tip of the iceberg.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 10:56 PM
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10. Hissyspit
Hissyspit

Not just USA wil loose if the Tea Party is going to win this elections, even if they just won the House or Senate. Or just a few more seats in one or two of the houses... Everyone of the earth wil loose if they get into Power.. Mostly becouse US have the largest military force that is on this earth, and I am really afraid that US can do alot of harme before the madness is over.. It wil be like be in early 1930s, when all hoped the madness that the nazist represented wil be under control. In 1933 the nazist got into the government, and in a few years time the dictatorship was clear, and an danger to the rest of the world, even tho it took some time to everyone to really understand how how bad the regime was....

A tea party regime in US, with all the weapons that US posess, would be ten thousands worse than Germany was under world war two, for the most part the war mashine at least was conventional, even tho both germany and others was able to build chemical weapons to some degree... US today, is bigger, more advanced and have a lot of nuclear weapons and if I am not wrong, also a lot of know-how to build and field chemical and biological weapons if nessesary.. Even tho US have not fielded biological and chemical weapons for many year now, it is not the same as the country not have the ability, to field a lot of weapons if that was a nessesarity...

Even just the conventional weapons arm is bigger, more mean and powerfullt han anyone else can field for the moment. It wil take time before the rest of the world could even came to a degree of the same powerfullness that US posess today. And it would take a long time before anyone could field, and wage a war against US, if US was to make a horrible war against everyone they look as enemies of them..

I belived I would NEVER se the day, when I even would imagine that the US would remotely be an enemy of the rest of the world... Im so sorry about this..:cry: I do not even know what to say about how sad I am, it is so sad to se a country, like your own, go down the toilet in a fashion that no one have seen for at least 70 year.... Last time this extremes was on show, was in the 1930s, when Hitler was on the rise.... It ended not to well last time madness wisited us, and it tooks decades before the world war itself, after the war ended, and the ruins and rubbles was cleaned up... Even today, in some buildings in Berlin, you can se the bullet holes all over the City.. Not to say, that even today, you can se one or two ruines in most german city's, from the day of the war... Now more hidden than before, as the war have ended for 60 year, and most of world war two damages is gone... But some parts of the war is clear as day, if you know where to look....

A war with the rest of the world, would not fare well with US in the end... As germans discovered tvice, a war started in madness, often end in madness, for the one who started the war.. And I would wold hold it past the Tea Party candidates if going to power, first in your Congress or Senate, and then the presidency wil start a full war against "the others"... Madness cames in many shape and forms, and I am afraid that Madness is what many "conservatives" do today.. It is a illness that can infect everyone, and every nation... And I am afraid it have infected US for a long time now, and if no medisine is given, the illness wil linger for a long whole, before the illness is under control.. Not to say, it wil take long time before the illness is out of the system.. It took Germany many years after World War Two to finaly get the illness out of the system. And it was mostly becouse they lost the war, and was experienced what it was to loose war.. I hope USA wil not go the same road as Germany had to endure before they understood that war, was not nessesary the best options

Diclotican
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:47 PM
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16. Welcome
Diclotican.

I don't think you have to worry about the tea party gaining too much power. They have limited appeal.

Peace
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:18 AM
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20. mzmolly
mzmolly

I hope not Mzmolly, i really hope. But that way they also said about Hitler, and the nazist of the 1930s also, that they was of limited appeal... 12 Year later, most of europe was in ruins, more than 50 millions killed before the war ended...

I might be wrong, and I hope so too, that US wil end this sharade once and for all, and wote out the Tea Party one and for all... They are nuts, really nuts most of them... Can't understand why anyone could wote for them, as they appeal is tasteless in my wiew.. But the last decade have shown me, that many in US, is found of idiots, and extremist, and the airwawes if full of extreme hate, specaily for your president.... He is in danger, and it is suprising that the man have surived that long as he have. I guess Secret Service is doing its job, protecting the President of The United States after all. They learned their lesson after Kennedy I guess

Hopefully everything wil go the right way, and moderates wil ripe the tea parties to smal pices next tuersday, and make it posible for Obama of really doing what most of americans, and most of the world want you to do.. Not play "ball" with the repugs, but to really do what is right, and should have been doing from the day he got into office in 2008....

But, even FDR used 2 year of his first admin to try to work it out witht he opposite party.. It was first when he got thing into gear, that slowly was going from really bad, to bad, and then under world war two, get the wheals really in gear.. And most of the "free world" after the War, was thankfully for that, not just for the war effort, but also for what US did for the rest of the world, after the war ended.

Diclotican
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:40 AM
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22. I think the Tea Party will ultimately divide the right wing
and make it easier for Democrats to win, long term. Imagine a disgruntled Palin losing the primary and running on the new Tea Party ticket against say ... Mitt Romney? ;) In fact, I'll help them form a third party.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:47 AM
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25.  mzmolly
mzmolly

I hope so, that the Tea party ultimately wil divide the right wings, and make it more easy for Democrats to win.. I hope in fact that persons like Sarah Palin wil be crushed so hard and so totaly that she never wil be known to man after been crushed.. But I fear she is as a cat, with 9 lifes (no offences to cats, they are both intelligent and lovely animals) and she have a lot of "lifes" again to play with, political speaking... She is a sort of poison, who wil/can do mutch harm before she finaly is finished, by either her own, or by an opponent who hold no barrels, and who shot the dam woman out of the water... I hoped mr Biden would do that in 2008, sadly he did not, even tho a total meltdown there, would have killed all posible chances of her, ever to came back. Next time I hope, if she ever was to go to office as president, or vice president, that Biden or whatever it is, wil really shoot her out of any posible chances of public office for the next 50 year... I mean a really crach her, destroy her, ruin her...

Diclotican
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:04 AM
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18. too bad others can not see into the future and the results of their madness n/t
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:42 AM
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24. 2Design
2Design

Wel, it is not that difficult to se what the posible future can be, it is "just" to stay afloat with the knowlegde about what become in the past when madness get the best of the world. And for the moment, many in US are really into the madness thing, and can experience the same thing as germany and germans did when the allied forces get to Berlin, and Germany was divided for more than 40 year. You do not need to be that educated to se that extreme wiews, and extreme governments, end up in extreme conditons when the rest of the world are not playing ball with the madness longer.. As in germany before the war, many on the outside belived, maybe with some right, that Hitler and the nazi party was a fling who would not live for long... By 1935 the nazist would have teared themself apart, and a new, more democratic germany would be the future. Many on the left, even belived that for the "true communism" to evolve, the nazis had to go their tour, and be shown to what they really was, a gang og extremes....

We now know how hard the nazi party, and the nazis was and that it was not before a horrible war the nazi party, and most of the old regime was burried in the rubbles of the bombed out city's... But germans learned their lessons well, and I doubt even in this political problems who are gripping europe, that Germany would do the same again, to wote into office a far right party.. I am more worried about some of the eastern european country, who never really got into the idea of cleaning up after the extreme regimes who suported germany under the war... Even Poland, was by 1939 ruled by an extreme right/conservative coalisation of generals and righwing haters, who was not excactly gentle to the different minorites who also was a part of then Poland... Jews in particular was discrimitated against, and they experienced a lot of the prelue to the horribla acts of Treblinka, Auchwitz and so on, long before germans got into the fry....

Diclotican
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:34 AM
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21. Very well put! I share your worries, Diclotican. I thought the same during the 2008 election
The rest of the world waits with baited breath to see what's going to happen after this and the next election in 2012.

Regarding Berlin's ruins being a testament to what can happen, the remains of Kaiser-Wilhelm church in Berlin are still 'as clear as day'...

Before


After


By the way, I think you might be interested in this thread I started yesterday: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9396117">In Answer To: "It Couldn't Happen Here!"
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:56 AM
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26. Turborama
Turborama

I was worried in 2008 to, and was awake most of the time, the election day (even tho it was allmoust morning when it finaly was true, the next president was Barac H. Obama, a black man, was president of the United States of America.) And I was also REALLY pleased to se how confused, and in many cases also shocked many of the media outlets was, when the election was finished, and they had to tell what have happend...

I know about Kaiser Willhelm Church, it was a total ruin after the war, as most of the city was.. Right after the war, no one was sure about what to do with the Church, some said to level it, and build a new church on top of it. Others said that they wanted to rebuild it from known images, and to rebuilt it to something it was before the war.. And some want to build a new church, where the ruins of the old could be build into the new church... As it is, a new church was build on most of the place where the Church once was, and it was doing with some gentleness, so the tower still standing as it did, when the war ended...

Germans know how to rembember world war two, it is a wound that even today, 60 year after is still raw right under the skin, and for the most part, germans is ashamed about the whole afair. They are really educted about what happend, and wil do allmoust anything to not go to war again.. The leasson from World War two, is deep in germany.. And not just a figure of speach for them...

I hope US would learn it the easy way, not the hard way as I fear they can do.

Diclotican
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:15 AM
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27. I've been to Berlin and the energy there is very dark, still
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 01:15 AM by Turborama
The fact it was winter might have something to do with it, but I could really feel that very dark part of history in the air, if you know what I mean?

I'm an expatriate living in Indonesia and was up all night for the results, too. I cried when he won, partly with relief and partly with excitement. Sadly that relief and excitement has gone now, though. It has been replaced with a similar deep worry we were having during that election.

It's nice to meet you and good to hear/share thoughts from someone else watching this from 'outside'. :hi:
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:36 AM
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30. Turborama
Turborama

The history of Berlin, is hard, brutal, and rather short compared to other capitals in the world. And Yes I understand what you mean, with experience of the dark part of history are still in the air.. But germanys Capital, is also a place where the new, and modern live togheter with the old and dark. And it is rather funny to know, that Berlin never really got into the fold with the nazis, even that Hitler and his party was doing their to paint Berlin in the new regimes collour, berliners never really got into the game with Hitler, and Hitler never got true the working class, even the middle class was at least non-political interst in Hitlers party, or was lukewark to it all.. And even tho it was not withouth danger comicans on the berlin scene, could give really sheap shoot to both the NSDAP party, and most of the political leadership, withouth to mutch harm. Even under the war, when the grip of the SS was hard in Berlin area, many comedians was making cracks yokes about the state of affairs. And often when the hall was full of german officers, even high ranking SS officers. Mostly becouse it got all over their head I supose...

I was really happy about it all, even tho I was scared to hell about McCain/Palin posibility, thankfully it ended as it did. But as I saw it, US was not out of the woods yet, and after 2 year, US are still not out of the woods by any means, but maybe US is been turning away from the horrible deep cliff US have been under for the last decade.. 8 year of mr Bush really harmed US in ways even "evil communist" of the 1950s could not be able to belive to effect US to do...

Wel, relif and exicement often goes away, as it is feelings that is big when it happend, but who in the end slowes down as the reality of the every day is coming to everyone of us. But yes, I am worried, and have been that for a long time about what wil happend, if the extreme right is winning this elections.. Even if they not even goes anynear the power they want in both houses, it could mean a lot for the extreme right. I hope that US wil do the right thing, wote in people who are not mental nutcases, but I am not that sure about americans anymore. Mostly becouse of the 8 year with mr Bush.. After that, nothing is sure in a election time in US im afraid... And it is like looking in a looking glass, as reading about when Germany was electing Hitler to the chanslorchip a chanclorship he managed to get, mostly becouse everyone else failed missrabley of doing what they promised.. Even the conservatives in then Germany failed missrabley.. But this is not Weimar Germany, this is the US of Today, and hopefully americans is able to vote in people who want to repair the damage.. Not madmen and woman whoes agenda is to destroy everything US have build up the last 150 year

Allways nice to meet others, and hear insigt from some who is "inside" in some way about who things is going on in US. DU have been a place for me since I discovered you in 2003-04, when the madman George Walker Bush jr and the criminal gang was in power.. Hopefully the madness of them wil never be elected into office again, even tho I am not sure about that yet..

Diclotican

Diclotican
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Steve20 Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:32 PM
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53. but
Alot of the tea party people are isolationist which is a good thing.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:43 PM
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56. Steve20
Steve20

Wel, one thing is what they talk about when they are in opposition, when they came to power, they might do othervice... Yes some of them are isolationist, who want nothing with the rest of the world. But when they understand what power US indeed have in the world, they might belive might is right, and want to expand the power by mear force..

It have happend before, and can happend again... History is long with this type of things..

Diclotican
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 10:58 PM
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11. Thank you, Hissy being hearing impaired
(not deaf) it's so hard to hear the videos and you were so kind to supply text. :hug:

Obama signed a new additon to I believe the ADA or a new one whatever, I know it mean that computer videos will be CC. Thank you, Mr. President and thank you Hissy.
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Chief Golden Gay Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:23 PM
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13. David Dreier gets spoofed! Hopefully on Tuesday too ;-)
Although he's not in the tea party, he's part of the problem. But we make him honest in our new spoof. Check out this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJWinkyUkAc
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:55 PM
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74. Welcome to DU.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:26 PM
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14. I am sending this to EVERYONE I know who is on the fence
when it comes to voting next Tuesday.
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neobeetle Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:27 PM
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15. Magnificent!


LET'S GO STOP THE TEA PARTY!!!!!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-10 11:48 PM
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17. MSNBC is doing a great job with their GOTV
message. Keith was magnificent, as always. :hi: K and R.
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Irritable Liberal Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:07 AM
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19. Ignorance is rampant
and it's impossible to reason with stupidity, For these people, facts don't matter, the past doesn't matter unless it's some atavistic version of a Utopia that never existed. We have become the United States of Amnesia.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:41 AM
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23. K&R Every member of DU needs to watch, Rec and share this!
Thanks for posting, man. :fistbump:
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:29 AM
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28. I love my Keith.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:30 AM
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29. K&R
:kick:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:57 AM
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31. One of Keith's more powerful rants..
Dead on, right! We don't need Tea Party people in Government. They are thugs and wackjobs.
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big lu Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:57 AM
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32. K and R
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:19 AM
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33. HOLE.LEE.SHIT.
I'm not thrilled (in fact, I'm disgusted) with what's happened to my party of late (I didn't leave them - but they sure left me), and FDR is rolling in his grave.

But you bet your sweet bippy that I'll haul my ass off to the polls and vote against EVERY freakin' Republican on that ballot.

Jeebus, it's scary... :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Celtic Merlin Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:25 AM
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34. There is a CURE for the MADNESS which is theTea Party :
.

VOTE !

.

If I am still breathing, I guarantee that I will vote. Who else here can guarantee that they will vote?

I expect all of you to do so.

Else, you suck.

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:49 AM
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35. 20+ years of Limbaugh and other RW radio idiots have emboldened these dolts to run for office.
I never would have imagined that this many idiots could get this far and conceivably be elected to office. You used to hear about them being elected to school boards, village councils and the like. But now, these half-wits who go around half-cocked about amending the Constitution, displaying their ignorance of this nation's history and other baseless stuff can conceivably be elected to the U.S. Senate, House or become governor of several states.

Over two decades of dumbing down this country by talk radio and Faux Snooze is the primary reason, I believe. In the past, the idiots were held in check because they would have been shamed out of speaking their nonsense in public. Now, they're on national media spewing their idiocy and are on the brink of holding congressional seats and running entire states. Do the media hold them accountable by showing how they're lying or misinformed? No! They just egg it on in many cases.

I hope I don't wake up to my worst nightmare next Wednesday.

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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:54 AM
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36. KNR! n/t
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:08 AM
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37. Every once in awhile some truth sneaks onto the airwaves. n/t
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:44 AM
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38. One more reason this Republican loves KO, a real American patriot.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:31 AM
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39. K&R n/t
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:05 AM
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40. K & R. This is a must see. n/t
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:14 AM
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41. Olbermann is sounding more and more like O'reilly every day.
Fear mongering is Fear mongering, regardless of the source, content or intent.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:11 AM
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45. America would be damaged. It's not fear-mongering.
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 10:13 AM by Hissyspit
Context is important, too. Yeah, a lot of these people won't get elected and he MAY be going over the top some, but these people are radical extremists and flawed in their thinking, and thus bad for the country. So Keith's thesis is sound, where O'Reilly's hardly ever are.

Plus this is clearly labeled by him and the network as special commentary.

But thanks for playing "BOTH SIDES DO IT, SO THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME."
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:03 AM
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49. So the ends justify the means
Got it, I'll keep that in mind. Didn't realize EVERYONE was playing that game.
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Demstud Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:36 PM
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54. What do you mean?
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 12:40 PM by Demstud
Maybe you can bring up some good points as to why this is "fear mongering" rather than warning us of a legitimate danger. The "end goal" is keeping dangerous people out of power. The means is giving specific examples (often direct quotes) as to why these people are dangerous. I don't see the problem. I think too many people have been so overexposed to fear based negative campaigning that when there is a legitimate fear many just decide they don't want to hear it and convince themselves it's just more of the typical political exaggerations.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:37 PM
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55. So explain where he's wrong
You think it's fearmongering, explain exactly why his thesis is wrong. "That would never happen here" isn't a justification.

O'Riley is usually wrong with his fearmongering because of massive factual inaccuracies. Point out where Olberman's wrong and you'll have a point.
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Demstud Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:46 PM
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57. Exactly
Fear mongering is creating a fear where no fear is justified or expanding a specific fear into a more generalized fear where it isn't justified. This is entirely fact based as far as I can tell, mostly supported with specific quotes. The tea party is not being unjustly generalized here, these are Tea Party leaders and candidates often advocating very dangerous and frightening changes to our country. If these candidates are elected, they will try to do things that hurt real live people (including many American citizens).
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:02 PM
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60. WOW,
I hear a tirade from a die hard conservative Republican coworker this morning that was almost the same argument, except the target of fear were the democrats.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:09 PM
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69. False equivalence is so tiring nowadays.
Harry Reid, as much as he may suck, is not Sharon Angle.
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:00 PM
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59. It's all about perspective
Just like trying to convince a brain washed Beckhead that he is full of shit, trying to convince some of you guys on here that Olbermann is just as bad is impossible.

I should learn my lesson and just shut up about these things, the blind faithful are just as blind on both sides.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:05 PM
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66. So your answer is...
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 04:09 PM by jeff47
"Nuh UH!!!!!"

No wonder you have a terrible time convincing anyone of anything.

Perhaps you can explain how it's fearmongering when you can't identify any accusation that's false?
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:09 PM
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88. Wiki definition
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:10 PM
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70. We know what the baggers said,
big difference.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:31 PM
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77. You're half right.
Glenn Beck IS full of shit. If you have anything substantial to say about Olbermann's factual information, then go right ahead and say so.

Otherwise, you can shove it. I've had just about enough of tea party nonsense, and the ignorant fucking lies coming out of RW idiots.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 06:07 PM
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81. Because he's NOT just as bad.
You are using fallacious and half-baked arguments. According to you, the journalistic outlets that DIDN'T provide the facts that Olbermann provided over the past decade, DIDN'T cover the stories that Olbermann covered over the past decade, DIDN'T provide the perspective that Olbermann provided over the past decade were doing it correctly and Olbermann is a corruption.

Nonsense.
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:12 PM
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89. Not even close
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 06:12 PM
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82. I'm not blind faithful.
I am perfectly capable of critically considering Olbermann and Maddow and approaches to journalistic discourse and their principles.
What I am not capable of is letting fallacious blanket generalizations go unanswered.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 06:26 PM
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83. crickets.
Well, at least he realizes Glenn Beck is a tool. Glenn Beck makes stuff up out of thin air and talks nonsense, so that's not surprising to see people of all political leanings finally figuring it out.

Keith Olbermann actually has substantial content and facts to back up his editorials. There is no comparison.
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:18 PM
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91. Glen beck is a paranoid nutjob
But I was comparing olbermann to oreilly. It's not the message, it's the method.

If you are going to criticizes the conservative nut jobs for exaggerating propaganda and misleading the people to further an agenda you are completely dishonest if you can't recognize and call out the same behavior in your own "sources".

I've seen a number of attacks on here towards public figures for them to denounce a certain behavior and when they don't they are labeled hypocrites, but some of you are doing the same thing.

Wouldn't be a better world if we ALL behaved ourselves, regardless of what message we were trying to get out.
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thetonka Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:13 PM
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90. Then I'm not talking about you, right?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 06:00 PM
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80. What part of "special comment" don't you understand?
What part of "editorial" don't you understand?

I'm so tired of the false equivalence crap. Just so tired of it.
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:22 AM
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46. Remember the PNAC neo-cons.
When the Republicans were out of power they formed an group of extremists who published their intent, if they were to regain power, to invade the Middle East. Particularly, those oil producing countries to secure American's dominance in the 21st century. They openly advocated military action on a preemptive bases to achieve their goal.

They were regarded as being delusional by those who even took out the time to read their manifesto. When Bush's selection was granted by the Supreme Court that absolutely had no congressional authority to do so, the new administration that was formed was dominated by PNAC neo-cons. They looked at 9/11 as a God send and welcomed 9/11 as their "Pearl Harbor" excuse to invade both Afghanistan and Iraq. These hopeless visionaries, as they were regarded by our informed leaders, put their ridiculous manifesto into action. We all know the tragic results.

I hear much of the same response that the Tea-bagging extremists are no real threat to our democracy. I can't equate them with the Nazi threat, but most certainly they could temporarily create real havoc in government until the citizens come to their senses. The legacy of the PNAC which is the direct cause of the majority of our problems should be fair warning of what could take place with these extremists in control. It is ironic that this motley assortment of lunatics actually owe their great opportunity to the chaotic situation that was created by the PNAC extremists. They are their wicked stepchildren.

Our nations leadership's during the Clinton administration that failed to challenge the Supreme Court's interference in elections that are mandated to be solely controlled by the state was a failure of the highest order. Gore didn't do the nation any favor when he conceded. This was a simple matter in which the Republican justices totally flaunted the constitution with devastating results. It is a prime example of the modern day Republicans disregard for democracy that is glaringly and obviously demonstrated by those seeking elective office. The catalog of sins that have resulted would require hundreds of pages and is a prime example of what can transpire when democratic principles are compromised in the name of partisanship to go along to get along.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:13 PM
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71. Not to mention the legacy of Citizens United. nt
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:01 PM
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65. you are wrong... Germany and the World would have been better off with...
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 04:06 PM by fascisthunter
an Olbermann to nail these right wing fascist nut jobs. Here's another point I want to make to you and every other person trying to claim we are all the same... WE ARE NOT! Not even close to the fucking liars and fascists who have all but destroyed this country from within. You have a lot of nerve waving your finger... open your eyes. There's a HUGE difference between O'Reilly and Olberman... one lies with impunity, the other does not! And this isn't fear mongering, it is called exposure of the right wing fanatics, who are a danger in this country and it's about fucking time!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:08 PM
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68. But Keith is using
very words of the Tea Party candidates, right from their own mouths. By their words we can see that these are some dangerous people, so this is not fear mongering. Keith was not making this stuff up out of whole cloth, like Fox News does. Angle did say we might need second amendment remedies, she said it and we know what she meant. And others have been advocates of violence and turning the civil rights clock back to the mid 20th century. Dangerous people. We should be frightened, we should be alarmed.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:34 AM
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43. K&R! Excellent! //nt
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:49 AM
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44. K & R
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:49 AM
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47. K&R
The man is a patriot!
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:59 AM
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48. K+R!! This should be a sticky post till the election.
And sent out everywhere.

We are fighting for our country on Tuesday.
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denpat1 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:21 AM
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50. keith
fighting for all that we hold dear, truth justice and the American way
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:00 PM
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51. The best over all picture of the worst of the worst, yet.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:03 PM
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52. YESSS. Go Keith!
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:58 PM
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58. this guy should run obama's campaign in 2012
and then run for president himself in 2016
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:50 PM
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61. It's a nightmare and I
can't wake up. I've already voted a complete Dem ticket....better go knock on some doors. But those damn voting machines make me nervous. I voted on paper.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:59 PM
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62. Excellent SPECIAL COMMENT- Thanks Keith!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:41 PM
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63. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Hissyspit.
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docvet Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:52 PM
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64. THIS...
TheTonka is correct. We have always been governed by fear. Keith should report the news, as all reporters should, and step off the soap box. Report the quotes but lay off the fear mongering. No need to get Beckian or O'reilian on us. IMO.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:06 PM
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67. Yawn.
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 04:06 PM by Hissyspit
Yes, we need MORE complacent objective news media.

The Washington Post. Objective! New York Times. Objective!

Except they aren't.

Thanks for showing up.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:13 PM
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72. nope... Olbermann is doing the right thing here
These nut bags are a threat to this democratic Republic of ours, and those who know history can see many parallels.

...too bad Germany didn't have more like this back in the day.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:16 PM
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73. Hardy.
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 04:16 PM by Enthusiast
The Tea Party and their PNAC allies are a grave and present danger to our democracy.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:42 PM
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78. Keith should report the news, as all reporters should, and step off the soap box.
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 05:43 PM by AlbertCat
But he is not a "reporter", and his show is not just a "news" show. It is an opinion show as is marketed as such. News AND analysis. It's not "The Evening News".
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docvet Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 10:42 PM
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92. SAD!
There is no "evening news" anymore. All are charged with opinion and cute pandas while the people starve and die from diseases that overpriced meds could cure. People think that Olbermann and other talking heads provide news but instead yap and divide further. That is the truth.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:02 PM
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75. HUGE K & R !!!
:applause::applause::applause:

:kick:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:03 PM
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76. Thnks Keith!
Let's finish G'ing OTV
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:57 PM
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79. Best clip from Keith ever...he takes on the hypocritical scum
what an embarrassment to the country they all are. Congress will stink to high heaven if any of these folks win office.
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bigdaddycoles66 Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 07:58 PM
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84. Right wingers will change America as we know it if you don't get out and vote.
Remember also Rand Paul wants to repeal the civil rights act to give business owner the right to refuse service to anyone of minority status. It looks like that will include democrats also. I voted with an early ballot today. Please get out and vote. Do not think that your vote doesn't matter. It does. If you don't, your life and as well as America will change to right wing rule. The republicans are arresting, stomping and taking away our civil liberties right in front of our eyes. It is on video! There is no denying what is to come. If you vote for republicans you will reap what you sow.
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Styxiv Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:20 PM
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85. It is so
Disgusting. Some of these clowns actually WILL win. Angle as nutty as she is is in a close race sadly NOT so much because people like her but that people (Democrats) are mad at Reid. So the option for them? DON'T VOTE how pathetic is that? I guess the alternative NUT CASE is better huh? good God I hope not. Here in Utah Lee is a sho in as this state is pretty anti Democrat so the nut job is still better. Our current Governor while scandal and scandal people still prefer a crook to the Democrat really sad and pathetic.

Its one thing to be anti government in that some of these people have been in office far too long and to some degree I agree BUT they teabagger clowns are not the answer in any way shape or form. The idiots who follow them don't honestly know what they are getting. What do they think their state taxes will be if they get their wish and get rid of government subsides? Just recently an are here got a FEDERAL GRANT (you know evil government money) of 26 million of a street car line. Do you think if they didn't get it it would just go away HELL NO!! They'd just up our taxes. Or how about federal money for roads, you think your city will just say gee guess we won't fix them HELL NO they will raise your property taxes and the list goes on and on.

ITs like the old saying goes "Be careful what you wish for you just may get it."
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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:46 PM
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86. Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster, I just got to watch this.
If this won't put the fear of the FSM into people, I don't know what will.

We MUST win this fight over ignorance and injustice, or our country will perish.

Thank you, Keith....
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