JAPANESE WATER POWERED CAR!!

[midnight]

Run time: 01:22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrxfMz2eDME   Posted on YouTube: June 14, 2008 By YouTube Member: raviwfc Views on YouTube: 554185   Posted on DU: April 08, 2011 By DU Member: midnight Views on DU: 1577

 
I can't wait till these are on the market.

[mwrguy]

1. Interesting

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[Vodid]

2. Ridiculous

It takes energy (fuel) to turn water into hydrogen.

[buddysmellgood]

3. You must have to charge a battery

to provide electricity to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen. The vehicle can recharge the battery while running. I suppose that's no different than a battery getting a gas powered car going. It depends on the efficiency they achieve. This sort of scheme usually is too good to be true.

[Kalun D]

4. Seawater

from near Fukushima and you can have a nuclear powered car

[midnight]

8. You are not kidding....

[RC]

5. Yeah Right.

Oxygen and Hydrogen love each other and it takes a lot of energy to break the bonds.

[EnviroBat]

19. I tend to agree with you. While I'm not a scientist, I have studied

my fair share of chemistry. It really doesn't require voltage on a large scale to split Oxygen and Hydrogen, a 9v battery will accomplish the task, but the amount of hydrogen produced wouldn't be adequate to create the energy required to move a vehicle. I wonder what the details of this are. I will spend the rest of the day researching everything I can about this...

[PotatoChip]

23. Please do

I'd like to know more about this, but as others have said, it sounds too good to be true. Please get back to us if you find more info, and the time to explain it in layman's terms. It'd be greatly appreciated. (I resigned myself many years ago to allow the math and science brains do their thing). ;-)

[Newest Reality]

6. If anything real and

viable is ever presented as fact, then you can rest assure that big oil will buy the rights to it and shelve it.

Do you really think there were never any bona fide alternatives that were more efficient than the Status Quo provides to you? If you were in the petroleum or energy industries, would you let an innovation or invention interfere with your wonderful, windfall profits? Would you just lay down and let the new industry come in and take hold, even if it was demonstrably better for the people and the environment? If any kind of threat were to come forth, your lobbyists would be on full alert and your politicians would be placed on notice.

That's the nature of the economic war waged on you and yours.

[midnight]

9. Naturally the powers that be would would wage a fight....

to prevent another country from moving forward with alternative energy sources..

[Newest Reality]

12. I can't wait until the day when we can

call them: The powers that aren't anymore.

It is coming. We are getting there. We should persist with that goal as primary in our minds and hearts.

I see a time when this will be over and there will be a resolution by the people who survive. They will say, with one voice and one hear, in response to the travesties and injustices that were created for nothing but profit by a few, "Never again!" That will be the time that we as a people and the Earth as our home and source will begin to heal.

[Quist]

7. How many MPG's does it get? n/t

[midnight]

10. 80 kilometers per liter of water or tea.

[demwing]

11. 80 kilometers = about 50 miles

and theres about 3.75 litres per gallon-about 185 mpg

[wtmusic]

13. The last one

"Stan Meyer's Dune Buggy that ran on water. Hydrogen/Oxygen fuel in an ICE motor. On board electrolysis, no hydrogen tanks, no bombs on-board, just water. (1998) It ran 100 miles per gallon! The 2nd best inventor of the Century, besides Tesla, who was and will always be #1. Stan is the mustard seed of Water Powered Cars! The video left above is a one timed aired news cast, from his home town of Grove City , Ohio that you are not to view. The video screen to the right is a segment of the Equinox program about Stanley aired back in Dec. 1995 (approx.) See the entire program entitled "It Runs on Water" narrated by Arthur C. Clarke in video clips below.
It is in 4 parts, made possible by Andy the WizardKing from Blackpool, England."

http://waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html

More to follow - stay tuned

[DeSwiss]

14. K&R!!!

[napoleon_in_rags]

15. Oh, not this shitake again.

Its not water powered. Its powered by hydrolysis. This is the process by which you can put in 1000 watts to spit hydrogen and oxygen, combust the hydrogen to run the engine to get less than 1000 watts back out in terms of movement, and you get water out the tale pipe. You need to carry around a big battery to split the water, and accept that you will be wasting watts in doing this. You charge that big battery at home just like any other electric car.

[muriel_volestrangler]

16. Company has folded; & we looked at this 3 years ago - it's powered by sodium, or potassium etc.

which react with the water. So they then would have to use a lot of energy to recover the sodium etc. for future use.

The system, which is capable of generating power with water and air, was first presented June 12, 2008. As reported in our previous article, the system produces hydrogen through a chemical reaction between water and a metal (or a metal compound) on the fuel electrode side (See related article).

Genepax uses a metal or a metal compound that can cause an oxidation reaction with water at room temperature, the company said. Metals that react with water include lithium, sodium, magnesium, potassium and calcium. The main feature of the Water Energy System is that it can be operated for a longer period of time by controlling the reaction of the metal or the metal compound, the company said.

According to Genepax, the metal or the metal compound is supported by a porous body such as zeolite inside the fuel electrode of the membrane electrode assembly (MEA). The products of the hydrogen generation reaction dissolves in water, and the water containing them will be discharged with water inside the system. Upon the completion of the reaction, the generation of hydrogen and power stops.

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080616/153301/

Remember chucking a lump of sodium into a bowl of water in school chemistry? It fizzes, giving off hydrogen. This is a version of that, under control.

We had all this 3 years ago, with some over-optimistic people saying how wonderful this was, and how it would bring the oil companies to their knees: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3460772

Anyway, it has gone to meet the choir invisible - it is no more:

We at GENEPAX have strived to develop new technologies to enable environment friendly energy systems, to mitigate environmental risks such as those posed by global warming.　The systems that we have proposed have received warm words of support from many people. However, we have yet to overcome the many obstacles we face in the current world, to bring our systems to market. Moreover, the costs of development have become very large. As our resources are very limited, we need to retrench and reassess our resources and our development plans at this time, and we are accordingly closing our website.

http://www.genepax.co.jp/

[Charleston Chew]

17. How we became slaves to oil

1. The biggest threat to the water supply of
the world comes from the petrochemical
industry.

2. One way or another, oil (in the form of gasoline
and diesel fuel) is involved in everything we do
and as the price rises, our standard of living
declines.

It just happened that way, right?

There was no alternative and we're only just starting to get
a glimmer of potential alternative fuels sometime way out
in the future, right?

Baloney.

The first cars ran on a non-toxic, renewable substance
that we can create in our own communities for about $1 a gallon.

So why aren't we using it?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x563940

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. Ethanol costs about $3.50 a gallon, not $1, and has less energy than gasoline

Industrial ethanol contracts were steady in February, after rising by around 30 cents/gal in January because of higher corn prices.

The increase in January put 190-proof ethanol contracts at $3.25-3.50/gal and 200-proof grade at $3.50-3.65/gal.

http://www.icis.com/v2/chemicals/9075312/ethanol/pricing.html

Ethanol 29,700 kJ/kg
Gasoline 47,300 kJ/kg
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/fuels-higher-calorific-values-d_169.html

So, ethanol is more expensive as a fuel than gasoline. That is why it needs subsidies for its production in Iowa etc., and why it is not in general use as an automotive fuel around the world.

[watajob]

21. There is a worthy discussion here...

... but it IS true that Henry Ford originally designed the Model T to run on "corn squeezins'" but was dissuaded from that plan by a certain Mr. Rockefeller. I believe 90 or so years of R & D might have changed things a bit regarding ethanol production methods/costs.

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. Yes, and Rudolph Diesel's demonstration engines ran on peanut oil

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/analysispaper/biodiesel/

But it nevertheless remains the case that gasoline is still cheaper than ethanol, in the United States. Brazil, which can produce ethanol from sugar cane more efficiently than the US from corn, does use ethanol on a large scale - about half the fuel for transportation (some blended with gasoline, some as 'hydrous ethanol'). But there is a finite amount of land that sugar cane can be grown on, and people may want it for sugar instead: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-07/brazil-may-tax-sugar-exports-by-5-lower-mix-estado-reports.html . At the moment, the tax on gasoline appears to still be higher than that on ethanol, and that is what keeps the ethanol pump price competitive. Even if it did become cheaper to produce, for the same amount of energy in the tank, than gasoline, in Brazil, than doesn't mean we can produce anything like enough ethanol to replace the current world consumption of gasoline.

[Cetacea]

18. Wash and spin.