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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:32 AM
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Rick Joyner:What's wrong W/Gov. (Must See!)
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkdfyB3zAhY
 
Posted on YouTube: April 13, 2011
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Posted on DU: April 13, 2011
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NOTHING he says is even close to being factually accurate but since when do Right Wingers care about facts or being in the least bit honest especially when they are doing the work of the Christian Deity!
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 09:52 AM
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1. The Devil Made Him Say That
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:16 AM
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2. This is why you can't drink your bathwater.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:17 AM
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3. he does have a point
There are janitors in Ct making $21/hrs, Cops/firefighters in Omaha retiring at age 50 and receiving 80% of their last years salary. So yes some people in the public sector get paid way more than they could earn in the private sector (and some earn less - teachers, doctors etc). The problem comes with their solution to the problem which is to cut the public sector union.

You may disagree with him but there is no need acting as if he is delusional.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:43 AM
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4. You have to admit that the stuff about the anointed king is a little out there!
Edited on Wed Apr-13-11 10:44 AM by peace13
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:08 PM
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6. Do you seriously want a 60-year old firefighter climbing the ladder or
running into a burning house to rescue someone? You've got to be kidding.

The cost of living in Connecticut is very high, and there is a lot of wealth there, but I would have to know the circumstances in which the janitor was working for $20/hr. I'd have to see proof.
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:33 PM
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7. Please dont put words into my own mouth
I am not saying I want firefighters to continue fighting house fires at 64 but to retire them at 50ish while giving them 80% of their last year wages (which are usually stacked with overtime)as pension is a little bit out of the ordinary. Most states retrain them to perform a lesser labour intensive job, that way, they can avoid retiring a perfectly viable worker

I can tell you that janitors in the private sector even in Ct earn $12/hr while the union ones earn $20.99/hr. The info is from the real news channel video. I would post the link, but DU admins tend to delete my posts with yt links. The title of the video is
"New Haven Wants Janitors to Pay 1/3 of City Debt".
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 03:05 PM
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8. A janitor making $20/hour is simply earning a modest wage
It is about $40,000 a year before taxes.


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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:24 PM
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9. modest wage or not
it is still overpaying for an unskilled janitorial job. Also since its a union job, they would probably paying a bit for for healthcare and pension but don't quote me on it, its just a guess
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:09 AM
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11. A modest wage is 'overpaying"?
Is that like shopping for a sale at Walmart to find the cheapest price? At the rate we are going all of us will be overpaid until salaries drops to third world wage amounts. Darn those public unions for wanting lower middle class wages!

BTW: Many janitors also do building maintenance so I wouldn't assume this position is 'unskilled' unless you have a job description.
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:20 AM
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12. She called them school custodians, not janitors
with an average of 10 years tenure. Compared to private sector of 4 years, who are also transient workers.

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?Itemid=74&id=31&jumival=6443&option=com_content&task=view


"So these are the custodians. You know, anybody who has school-aged children, you know, runs into custodians in their public schools all the time. You know, these are the people who make sure that the hallways are clean, that the cafeterias are, you know, cleaned properly, that maintain the basic quality of the buildings. So you just think of them as the caretakers of the physical learning environment for these kids in school. It also includes, you know, groundskeepers, people who are doing some auto-mechanical work. But again, you know, basically these are the people who are taking care of the physical environment at these learning institutions. So the basic change of that is: The average wage currently, for the custodians, is $20.90. Under the privatized contract, this average wage would fall to $12.50. So it's a cut in wages by about 40 percent. In terms of benefits, one of the really significant changes is that right now the custodians work full-time. The entire workforce is working full-time. Under the privatized contract, about two-thirds of the positions would be part-time. It could be more than that--I had to estimate this a little bit. But at minimum, two-thirds of the positions would be part-time. And all those part-time workers would have no health benefits and no retirement benefits. The current full-time workforce has both of those benefits, health and retirement. So these are not only drastic changes in terms of compensation, but also in terms of the work hours, so the potential earnings, so the amount of--even, you know, at a very much lower pay rate, they're working about half the hours."


"Currently the average salary of the custodians is about $45,000. They make about another $5,000 in overtime. But when you look at what would happen under the private contracts, they're talking about an annual earnings of about $13,000 for a $12.50 an hour job 20 hours a week. I mean, the size of that loss of income is huge."

"You're talking about a household making about $31,000. And that qualifies them for major public subsidy programs like, as you mentioned, food stamps, which is now called SNAP, Medicaid, housing assistance, the earned income tax credit program, childcare subsidies. So in effect these subsidy programs will be subsidizing the low earnings that these jobs will be offering under the private contract."

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wxgeek7 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 10:45 AM
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5. Babbling idiot
This guy's a nonsensical, babbling idiot!

I bet the private sector could easily provide the same/or better, benefits/pay, IF companies weren't so concerned with paying their CEOs outrageous paychecks, and the "bottom line".
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:20 PM
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10. Utter bullcrap up to his eyeballs.
nuff sed
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-16-11 03:25 PM
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13. This guy must get all his information from the Birch Society.
n/t
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