What if the gulf oil spill never happened?

[Richard D]

Run time: 02:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlnCOEACA3w   Posted on YouTube: April 29, 2011 By YouTube Member: IDoEveryThingPeople Views on YouTube: 10   Posted on DU: April 29, 2011 By DU Member: Richard D Views on DU: 661

 
Powerful.

[HolyCity2012]

1. How We Became Slaves to Oil

The last 90 years of the economic, political, and ecological rape of the world by oil companies has been a total con job, enforced with violence and supported by generations of corrupt politicians (Cheney, Bush Sr., Bush Jr., Nixon, and on and on it goes.)


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[canuckledragger]

2. I agree

& while it makes TPTB look good that 'discussions are going on looking into alternative resources', that's a con job too.

There are plenty of alternatives available now (Solar, wind, geo-thermal to name a few) the con job is that greedy mfr's want it to be CENTRALIZED power...so money can be made by the few, controlled by the few.

With the few alternatives I mentioned the are tons of variations that can be adapted to the INDIVIDUAL's home, keeping control out of the hands of the rich & corrupt.

And we can't have that can we? people generating their own power? think of the safety concerns! /sarcasm

[RC]

3. Solar, wind,geo-thermal may be fine for the home, but

heavy industry needs much more. Try running a plant that makes wind turbines on wind? Not likely to happen. Solar, same story.
Why? Not healthy enough. Not enough reserve power to run the smelters and power tools needed to make a wind turbine.
So what do they use for power to run the manufacturing process? Coal, oil and nuclear.

Wind and Solar ads always lists the number of homes they can power. No mention of any power intensive manufacturing.

[canuckledragger]

5. I wasn't thinking of heavy industry at the time..

..but it doesn't mean that everything has to go green energy right away. At our current progress with energy production in general of course heavy industry will have special needs & will likely need the big traditional power plants to supply them, but it doesn't have to stay that way.

There's a Steel producing plant named Essar Steel Algoma in a city I used to live in, Sault Ste Marie, Ontario that makes use of a few different renewable energy sources to cut cost & keep the plant powered, one of them being a small hydro-electric dam powered by the St. Mary's River near the downtown area. another efficiency technology they were looking into was to put turbines in some of gas pipelines to make use of some of the kinetic energy produced just by the flow of gas itself.

that's just a few that I know of & they aren't perfect, but not much effort (or said effort is being interfered with) is being put forth to develop them to such a degree that companies, homes COULD be off the grid in time.

Why? the cynical side of me says it's all about the money. hugely subsidized oil gas & coal & nuclear companies aren't about to give up their market share, & will & have done everything in their power to stop them from becoming viable competitors.

[They_Live]

4. Hemp for Victory!

Hemp could go a long way in addressing the problems of oil.