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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:39 PM
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Olbermann's Most Disgusted 'Worst Persons' Ever: O'Reilly, Free Repub, Limbaugh & Novak
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October 9, 2007 - Countdown w/ KEITH OLBERMANN: O'Reilly hasn't apologized "because he's not only not enough of a man, but not enough of a human being..."

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lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 02:51 PM
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1. That is one ugly trifecta of worst persons in the world
Adding only Coulter or Malkin could make it worse. I think if you say their two names along with O'Reilly out loud in the same sentence it causes the devil to appear.
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 09:30 AM
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47. LOL!
:spray: :rofl:

I would not doubt that would work.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:09 PM
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2. Excellent! Everybody should see this. Recommend! nt
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:10 PM
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3. love it, love it, love it kr
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:12 PM
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4. Why is this type of pepole on TV/Radio?????
Edited on Wed Oct-10-07 03:12 PM by Diclotican

Ok, i know about the fredom of speach, even that it are infringt by others and the like...

But I seriusy questing the sanity of the TV and radio board who are given men like O'Really and Rush Limburg space, in fact mutch space on national TV and Radio. This type of "gentlemen" is plain mad, and they have NO RIGHT TO HARASS OTHERS.. They act as the old school bully I encountered in my school, and they are attacing the "safe bet" the inocent, the weak and they who cant speak out and fight them...

They are just simple cowards, stupid manicac who should have bee trowed out of their studios, and the studios who gave them their place given ALL american pepole a seriusy "I am sorry about this type of behavior, we wil screen mutch better after this before they are given airtime":. They insult not just themself, they insult EVERYONE INTELIGENTE MAN AND WOMAN IN THIS PLANET...

God to know, that this type of behavour never have been given airtime in Norway, we do have some code of conduct on our airwaiwes... Yes some have "stumbled" but they are not given a lot of airwaiwes if they not appology for they misconduct.. In US they are given prime time if they act as this "gentlemen" are doing.. Go figure why..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language

ps, god to know US do have "someone" like Keith Oldermann, Thas is a man to have respect for... He is wonderfull ANGRY of what is happening in the US today;

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:19 PM
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6. Welcome to DU from
Norway, Diclotican!

The answer to your question about why these pod people can be on the airwaves is ..the airwaves love it. They want The People to be marginalized and the corporations to be put on a pedestal..and these are just the assholes to do it. Until they crumble from self-implosion that is.

Sounds good in Norway concerning your high standards for the airwaves.

Good ol' America has been under an openly fascist coup for 7 years and who knows how long it's been in the works before 2000?
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:55 PM
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11. zidzi

zidzi

Have been here for a time, but thank you for a warm welcome to DU.

I see, its like in the old roman times, when pepole get their Circus and dont care about how the goverment are been ruled. And the more show it is, the more they are occupied by the Circus instead of been interested in what the government are doing I guess.. In Europe we have had a lot of that in the last 100 year, but I guess we do have learned "something" in the prosess too.. And I guess US have to learn it the hard way if they dosent want to lisen to your "older" cussins over the pound (Atlantic Osean)

Wel, we have a pretty strict code of conduct in our airwayes I guess.. We had learn a lot from the BBC and in fact from the big american mediagroups.. In the old days many from NRK (Our state own radio and TV organisation Norges Riks Kringkastning) was traveling to US to learn how to do it properly both on Radio when that was the big hit, and then on TV when that was beginning to be used... (1960 I guess it was the first time NRK was airing on TV) Today we have a lot of tv and radio shows, many comercial and not public ownedbut we do have some conduct of how to behave... Even that the "border" of how to behave have been wieded the last 50 year, it is stil NOT polite to behave like a holigan on radioa and TV. Our goverment have one big stick they can use stop the lisence to send on public airwaiwes... Men like O'Rially and Rush Limburg wil get a werry smal liftime on our airwaiwes.. I hope that, even that I do like "bread and circus" some time I too, but I dosent like it EVERY DAY..

But I guess it maybee be becouse of that the most of the peopole who ARE in the airwaiwes have been educated the "right way" when it come to politeness, and then dont need to be a ass when they are on the waiwes...

Facism or dictatorship are newer coming sudently, it come under discues of "freedom from slavery" and its like.. And the last 7 year have been a catastrophe for US, and wil take a LONG TIME to heal, bot in US, and too everyone else in the world see US in a another light now.. Even old allied are not that found of US as they once was...
I guess many pepole in "Power" long before 2000 was in the think thank of building av open facist state. Off course they are doing it under cover and newer given the peopole the sight of what is happening... PNAC is like reading Main Kampf of Adolf Hitler.. What PNAC want, is plain simpel world domination. They cloth it in werry nice clothing, not like in the 1930s when SA and SS was headbanging political oppononets, but even then, they are doing it werry clear on their webpages, that US want to dominate the rest of the world.. With peace when that is righ, with weapon when that is right/ oppourtunt to do.. And if you are into history for the last 70 year, you know what happend to Adolph Hitler and the 3 reich in the end?..

And I am WORRY/scared what wil happend when the US are seeing what is HAPPEND TO THEM in the end.. I have some hope that the peopole in US are waking up and smell what is happening yet, even that I fear it wil cost US a lot to realise that they are NOT the most populare state in the world.. And not becouse of the "they hate us for our freedom" But becouse US act as they are a school bully plain and simpel...

Many US sitiziens who was living in Norway in 2003,was scared by the fact that many noriwigian was against the Iraqi war. They had nothing to fear from Norway, but they should fear what some of US friends in the Middle east are feeling forward US... That is something you all should "keep a Eye on"...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:19 PM
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19. It must feel encouraging to have
discovered a place like DU and know that there are citizens in the USA who feel like you and a lot of other Europeans and sane people around the world who do NOT want the US to have "world domination"(which I have no doubt that's what the bushits crave).

Your English is coming along..I bet you learn more ways to express yourself in English and conquer it's illogical spelling characteristics every time you come on DU?

I know how hard it is to learn another language..I was trying to learn Espanol when I lived in San Diego, California. It was good fun to try and communicate in another language beside your native tongue..too bad I left California in 1990 cause if you don't use it you lose it. :)
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:38 PM
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23. zidzi
zidzi

Yes it was ecoraging to se that not EVERYONE in U was in agreement with Mr Bush and the neo-cons.. I really feared that US was loosing in big time after mr Bush was "elected" and in 2001, when the most of the western world was behind US and the president, acted out as a spoiled brath out of a anger spree... And in Europe many wounders What is happening over there??.. Had "Fox news" in the cabel sometime, but I figured it was "little" to the right from me... And I guess I was right...

If US are into "world dominiation" they should just have continued the policy they have been made for the last 100 year.. In many ways everyone under the age of 60 allready was "american" as they shoose to share many of the same values and culture as US have been doing it for many year.. I doubt you vil find a youth in Norway today, who dosent have a Ipod or are more fluent in american TV show then they are in Norwigian TV show... You wil dont find a youth in Norway today who dosent have a dream to living in US, and get a taste of the "american dream".. The american Dream are verry wel alive in Norway even today...

Absolutely I learn a lot of expressing myself everytime I come to DU. I am not good in engelish, not by far and I guess my gramar is killing you everytime I wrote. But I try to be better, even that I know that I am not good.. Good help from my engelish/norwigian dictionary are helping my alot.. But often I am finding me self "lost" in the dictionary. So many words... And many of them are werry funny if you tray to translate them direct to norwigian too:O

Engelish are not the most dificult language to learn, but yes it is not easy to get all the spelling correct. I do hope you are bearing over for a forreigner who arent fluent in your language;?
I tried to learn spanich once.. Flunket big time and realised that spannish was a aven more illogical language then engelish:P Absolutely if you dosent use it, you lose it, thats the way of things I am afraid...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:58 PM
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26. Whereas I thought Spanish was
very logical with all those "a" and "o" endings :)

Coincidently, enough, I got a little bit of your language on another thread just a minute ago..here's the link.

Beware of foul language in English!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x61192


And I can understand what you write, pretty darn good, so keep up your good work!

I just wanted to mention the "slang" in English..it can get very confusing, I would imagine, because we love our slang! :P
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:51 PM
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9. Your English Is Better
than my Norwegian!

I'm always so impressed by people who can communicate in more than one language...I can barely manage on a good day to say 'Feed me.'

Welcome to DU!
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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:09 PM
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16. I'm more impressed...
... by the fact non-native English speakers tend to be ten times more proficient than most Americans.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:16 PM
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18. Riktor

Riktor

I dont know if I am better in engelish than most americans, I doubt it werry wel. But we do learn engelish pretty early, and I had some good teatcher who manage to learn me some good engelish I guess;).

And for the record, we do learn really english, not the american dialect who are maybee more easy to understand, but who have a lot of "slang" who dosent exist in dictonary... The brittish engelish is the prefered engelish we learn, and it is maybee becouse that UK is not that long away 2 hour with aircraft and you are in London... it take 8 hour to get to US:... After 100 year with airplanes.. In fact it take longer time now to travel to US, then it was in 2002 when the last Concorde was grounded...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish not my native language
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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:09 PM
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29. Believe me...
... most Americans aren't like the French. We aren't going to criticize you for messing up a few words here and there. Your mistakes are relatively minor, and they are all very common to people who learn English as a second language. We all understood your post, which means you can communicate effectively, so don't be embarrassed about your English. You're doing a very good job, and you should be proud of your ability.

:toast:

English is a strange language, and it has more exceptions to rules than rules themselves. For non-native speakers, it can be very difficult to master. For that reason, I can understand the mistakes non-native speakers make. However, I have met some Americans, who supposedly grew up speaking English, who simply do not grasp the basic rules of English grammar. The surprising part of it is, I am speaking about Americans I knew in college; Americans with degrees and good jobs. They aren't uneducated, so they really have no excuse for not being able to tell the difference between "There", "Their", and "They're".

I think Europe has the right idea in regard to education. I didn't start learning another language until high school, which is far too late, in my opinion. Americans just don't see the need to learn another language. Most Americans never leave the country, so they feel like learning another language is a waste of time.

Honestly, I've always been interested in other cultures, and have tried to learn other languages whenever possible. I know a little Spanish, a little French, and a little German, but I'm not fluent in any of them. I took a look at Nynorsk, but don't think I'm smart enough to learn it. ;-)
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:04 PM
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35. Riktor
Riktor

I know, and thats for the best that american for the most part are not like the french.. They can be verry angry if you dosent speak/write french propetly.. They almoust demand that you are fluent in french, or else you are your own... And that can be bad if you are alone in one of the biggest country in the western europe:P

Thank you, that you say my mistakes is relatively minor, I know they are far from few, but I do try, but it can be dificult to tray to translate from norwigian to engelish, directely then;
Thats wierd, I wil guess that you learn some proper engelish in a engelish speaking country. I have allways belived that the school system in US was one of the better ones... I know it can be diferent from state to state, but not that it is THAT diferent from state to state... Even that the peopole is EDUCATED and have degrees at College level...

It is important to learn another language, even that it is not perfect executed after the school.. I have never get a good grade in engelish, but in my way I have managed to travel out in the world, and get understanded somhow. I guess it is mutch becouse they get the "goodwill" for a forreigner who are asking for help:P.. And for the most part, when talking/comunicating to the authorities it has helped a lot when showing my little red pasport whith the sigh of Norway on it..
In many europan school they are starting with another language even earlier then in Norway.. And many country are small, with border with another nations just km or mils away.. I can drive 2,5 hour and travel to Sweden, so many nations in Europe is SMAL compared to US who you can use 1 week, or maybee more to drive true... Its just so mutch important to learn another language here in Europe, then in US i Guess...

i found it little interestning that many american are not traveling abroad, they mean US have the right to get into another country to "learn them democracy and fridom" but seldom travel to se the world as it is.. And the media is pretty wierd from the european wiew, many god educated american who are on TV, just get it horrible wrong when they learn another american what Europe are, or what european history is all about.. Irritation O yes.. But what can you do?

Dont be shamed on you. I have problems with Nynorsk myself..;).. That is a dificult language for the "bokmåls" peopole, and have been a irritation moment for countless students over the year.. Ivar Aasen was clever, but he is burried in a "bokmåls" area, outside the middleage Church St Paul on Hadeland, a church who by the way is from the 12 century if I am not totaly worng..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native langauge
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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:21 PM
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41. On America and Europe
Well, I have visited Europe only once, but I did enjoy it immensely. My father and I traveled from Basel, Switzerland to Aachen, Germany. I ran into a few rude Frenchmen in Switzerland, but other than that, the Germans, the Swiss, and the Belgians were all helpful and relatively friendly. The food was fantastic, the beer is wonderful, and the landscapes are serene. I visited the Dom in Köln, and was amazed they could build such a huge cathedral in the 1500s.

There are a few reasons Americans rarely make it to Europe. First, it is very expensive. It cost me $800 (US) for a round-trip ticket from New York to Frankfurt. Also, American currency is not worth as much as it used to be, so we lose money converting our currency to Euros or Pounds (UK). Here in America, a trip to Europe is something people really have to save up for. I saved for years in order to take a two week vacation to Germany.

Second, some Americans are very ethnocentric. They think the American way of doing things is the best. They just don't understand that different kinds of people like different things. I was sitting in a bar in Bingen, Germany with my father, and there was another American sitting next to us. He kept telling the barmaid how "American beer is better than this German stuff", "American cars are better than German cars", and he did this without really realizing he was insulting his host. My father and I just pretended to be German and hoped we'd make it back to our hotel in one piece.

I'm sure there's similar people in Norway. Varg Vikernes comes to mind.

As for American education, it can differ greatly from state to state, and even town to town. Americans have to pay taxes to the federal government, to their state government, and to their city government. Public schools are funded by taxes paid to the city, so people living in poor cities receive poor education, while people living in rich cities have access to much better education.

Finally, as for learning Norwegian, I may give it a try, but the pronunciation looks really difficult. Though, I guess if I can pronounce Persian, I can give Norwegian a shot.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 09:11 PM
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43. Riktor
Riktor

Nice to know you enjoy your trip to Europe. And Switzeland is one nice place to start the trip in Europe.. Achen in Germany is to a nice place to be. You know that once Achen in germany was the capital to Charlemange the great?. You wil even today find the church from the 700-800s Most of the other stuff is burried and goon for a long time...

French can be little rude, but for the most part you wil be welcome over the whole continent.. After the wall and all that stuff I guess even russians are pleased to se american traveling as visitors to Russia;).

The Dom in Koln is amazing, even that it for the most part is rebuld AFTER the WW2 where the Schurch was giving a big beating when the whole City was bombed to smal peaces?.. But after the war, both the dome, and the city was rebuild to what is is today.. Amazing when you think about how the place was after the war: The dome in Koln is great, but it is many domes like that over many cities in Europe.. And they are all marvel in stones if I have to say it.. Amazing what they was doing, with little more than handtools, and a lot of time... Our ouf Catherdale Nidaros, was build in the 1200, but was finaly build up in the 1960s...

I have woundered why it is so expensive for a american to travel to Europe, when it is not that expensive to travel the other way. Are the salary that mutch lover in the states then in Europe?.. Hm maybe the union bashing wasent that smart after all:? 800 dollar is pretty expensive, and its hard when you have to save a lot of money to make it.. And they you have to have some money to spend on the holiday too... And country like Switzerland are NOT inexpensive to visit...

It is the same of the whole place I guess.. Some think that EUROPE is the greatest place to be, some think Franch is the best place to be and so on. But it is seldom polite to speak it out loud, as you pick up... And for the record, its a LONG TIME sine american car was the best in the world. Both Japanese and european cars is build better, and are more safe than US made cars today.. And they get a mutch better milage when it come to consuming petrol..
And another thing. American beer stink.. It is amazing that a country with all this know how canot make a decent tasting beer like you can find it in Europe.. THe only reason to drink american beer is to be drunk.. You cant taste it, enjoy it, and then drink it as you can in many european contrys.. German, french (they do have exelent beer there to,not just wine..) UK, Irand, many of the east european country all have beer that are given the american beer a bad taste.. I maybee insult you little, but american made beer is not fo mee. I have tasted it sometimes.. And the only reason I tasted it was to get drunk.. And for the record, Drunk I was..... But then many european country have maybee 1000 year of brewing behind them. US have just 231 year behind him.. So I guess then if US have some 100 year or so to them, they wil manage do make a desent beer after all;)

Mr Varg Vikernes was maybe a axelent hard rock musicer but he was a werry stupid man and deserved all the time he was getting in prision when he killed the other man who I dosent remember the name off.. Funny you know about Vikernes who after he was out of prision "remade" himself as a Neo-nazism.. And get into more truble becouse it was NOT that popular to be a neo-nazism in Norway.. He is out far on the stringes of our contry, and wil be there for a long time.. The collective memory in a smal country as Norway (just 4,6 million) are given hi little shance of recorvering...

That is something I am confused about. That you have that diferent education from town to town, from state to state. Isent the best way to get peopole educated to have a regular education prosess in all 50 states?.. A state who are rich wil use more money to education then a poor state. Even a rich town wil use more money then a poor town..???. Thats werry confusing for a european I guess.. Wel for me then;

Wel, it not that dificult, and if you can persian you can allways learn some norwigian;). We have many like words as in german, or dutch (jup, in fact some dutch can understand norwigian pretty well, becouse it sounds like old dutch as they have told it) And Persian is in fact in the same familiy group as norwigan are (the indo-european familiy). SO it is just wort a shot;)
Even I can norwigian,) So I guess everyone can learn it somehow.. But yes, we do have some dificult pronuncation sometimes..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native langauge

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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:40 AM
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45. On My Trip
Hey, don't worry about insulting me, most American beers are terrible. The only ones worth drinking are microbrews, but I don't think they are exported to Europe. We get plenty of imports here in the States, so I drink Stella Artois, Pilsner Urquell, Schneider und Sohn, Bass, Guinness, and Newcastle. Local European beers, like Kolsch, are hard to come by in the states, so we have to drink the mass-produced imports. Still, they are much better than Budweiser, Miller, or Coors.

So, about my trip to Europe...

I spent a little over two weeks touring Germany and a few bordering countries. I am very interested in history, so I spent all of my time walking around the cities, finding really old things to look at. I did go to Charlemagne's Cathedral in Aachen, where I saw his sarcophagus, and the chandelier given to the Church by Fredrick Barbarossa. I also went to Trier and saw the Porta Nigra, Constantine's Cathedral, Constantine's Basilica, and the Deutsche-Romanische Museum. I also spent a lot of time along the Rhein, where I stayed in a hotel called "Die Krone" in Assmannshausen, near Rudesheim. From there, I saw many of the castles that overlook the Rhein (Shloss Schoenborn, Schloss Sooneck, Die Mauseturm, etc.), and drank a few of Germany's fine red wines. I stayed in another hotel on the Neckar River and saw the castle of Goetz von Berlichingen. I also visited the city my family emigrated from, Rheinfelden, which is right across the Rhein from Basel, Switzerland. From there, I visted Freiburg im Breisgau, where I saw their Dom and the Altes Rathaus. I also saw most of the southern portion of the Schwartzwald. I also made it to Koln, which is a wonderful city, and Frankfurt, where I drank Ebbelwoi (Apfelwein) and ate Handkaese mit Musik at a restaurant called Adolf Wagner's.

I also took a little side trip into Basel, just for dinner one night while in Rheinfelden, and the Belgian countryside while I was in Aachen.

You're right, man, Europe is great. It is really different from America in a number of small ways. Let me explain:

1- In the states, when you go to a restaurant, the staff rushes people in and out to get as many customers in as possible, and they typically close around 11:00 PM or so. In Germany, if you get a table at a restaurant, you can stay there until 1 or 2 in the morning. Nobody rushes you. It is great.

2- Drinks aren't kept quite as cold. I know, it sounds kind of silly, but here in the states, when we get a bottle of water, or a soda, or a beer, it is typically ice-cold. In Germany, everything, even milk, is kept at room temperature. By the end of those two weeks, I was dying for a cold soda.

3- There were no cops in sight. I spent two weeks traveling around the Autobahn, and not once did I see a police officer. In the whole time I was there, I only saw two Polizei, and they were working in Frankfurt Airport.

4- Holiday. Alright, this is something that America really needs to give a test drive. I went to Europe in the mid-summer, during the 2003 heatwave, nonetheless, and I was surprised to learn that Europeans typically get One Month worth of vacation during the summer. Everybody in southern Germany had taken off for a month. Businesses were closed, there was nobody on the road. They all went down to Italy. Most Americans get two weeks worth of vacation time a year. We're getting screwed.

I could keep going on about the little differences, but I just don't have the time. When you travel to another country, you expect big cultural differences, so it is always surprising to see the little things, you know, like how Europeans charge extra for ketchup in your french fries. Other than that, Europeans and Americans aren't really that different. We both live similar lifestyles... Europe's just more relaxed about some things. Not soccer, though. You guys are crazy for soccer.

Now, onto education. It would make sense for every school in America to get similar funding, but for some reason or another, Americans think "socialism" is a terrible thing. They have no problem spending hundreds of billions of dollars on bombs, but when it comes to funding schools, they say they don't have the money. I know it must sound insane to you, and believe me, I think it is insane, too.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:44 PM
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49. Riktor
Riktor

Good to know that american agree that american beer are not the best;) I dont know if US are exporting microbrew to Europe, but when we do have some great beer, we maybee dosent need to import microbeer from the US:p.. My favorit, when it come to beer is Guiness, And the best beer is made in Irland where Guiness are from;). But its Ok other to. I like my beer dark and tasty;).. But it are going with other type of beer to..

It must be interseting to travel to Europe when you are intersted in history, is it one thing europe have enough of, its history.. And Europe have some pretty old Citys to visit when you are here;). You was in the Rhin district.. Ah wonderfull place, never been there myself, but i hope to be there once, have read a lot of the place so I know little about it then;)

I think its rude when the staff rushes people out and in for just the money. If you want customers to come back, behave and be nice.. That is something everyone in that type of business had to learn somehow... But off course you have to have some rules so it is not going down the hillside when the customers behave bad;.

Hm, maybee its like that, havent thinking about how cold/not cold the drinks are.. I guess it is not ice-cold then, but I have never really thought about that really..

Its cops here and there, but you dosent see them;). Was stoped by the police on the highway on monday night, was driving home from a friend of me, and was stoped. The police was polite, i was polite and they just was scekking that I was what i claim to be. And then I was on my way again. And they dosent menchen that I was speeding 10km over, So I was lucy there (its 90km there, and I was speeding 100km)
German police is often werry polite when they are in contact with the public, they know how to behave, and peopole dosent se police as the enemy, more like a friend who help... And in many country in Europe we dosent have the right to arm ourself with the latest gun tecknology when driving... IN Norway the police dosent even have gun as standard equiment.. Wel they do have a shut gun in the back on the police car, but have to report in to get green light to use it. And for the most part they dosent use the gun... THey dosent need it...

Absolutely. The Holliday is something american really have to loock deeper into sometimes. I Guess we had better union workers in Europe then in the US when it come to hollidays.. Many belive that you dosent need that mutch freetime, but I really like the fact than on the hight on the summer, you dosent need to be sitting in the work and swetting all the time.. Of course not EVERYONE get to have free in July/august but many does it... In Norway its typical to have holiday from 21 juni and then out to the last day in July;) You have to get into this ugly unions and try to get better holliday rights.. And in fact our hollidays is even Paid for, 2.5 prosent of the salary every month is going into "the holiday tax" and given to us when the summer holliday is coming, and in Juni we also hav the tax refound so we are pretty wealty when the summer are coming up:P.

Its the smal diference who suprice you when you visit other country. I guess that Europe and USA for the most part are verry similar, but the smal diference is there to see, if you want it;). And we do are little more relaxed for the most part;)
hehe dont mess with the soccer, thats IMPORTANT stuff..Even the late Pope Johannes Paul 2 was interested in soccer, and was following the Italians in all theyr games.. Even in old year he was interested in soccer:) So nothing is so important that you cant skip it for some soccer, spesially when its national games with other nations.. Thats deadly serious:)

American pepole is really afraid of everything that "taste" of sosialism. What is really scarry about given your shildren the best chance in the world to get a good start in life?.. What is wrong with given all the peopole dicent healt care, even that it mean you have to pay little more taxes on your pocket?. What is wrong to build sosial housing, and try to buil a better future for all?

And then, you can use BILLIONS of dollar to wage a war who dosent even come close to what they was telling in front of you before the war..??. Thats comfusing for a european, wel for my then:( If the goverment in US was using enough money to education that they are using at bombes, they havent have a enemy in the world, and the american peopole was one of the most educated peopole in the world.. Eisenhower, your old President once warned against the military-industraly compleks, Maybee you have to stop it before US are going the same way as the old SOVJET was doing.. Armed itself, to dead...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native langauge
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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 05:12 PM
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53. Well, the military issue is really complicated
When compared to a number of other countries, the US is really quite liberal, but our biggest political problem is our two-party system. In Europe, the political parties need to work together because they are so many of them. Here in the states, we only have two major parties, and they hate each other too much to work together.

Every time a Republican takes office, they cut taxes and increase spending, which plunges the US into debt. The thing is, they do it on purpose. It's called "intended consequences". They spend a lot of money knowing that when a Democrat takes office, he will have no choice but to raise taxes to pay off the debt. When the Democrats raise taxes, the Republicans accuse them of spending too much money on social programs like education, welfare, and health care, and demand we cut these programs instead of raising taxes.

The situation is really difficult to explain to someone who is not familiar with American culture, but I'll do my best. In the southern and midwestern states, people tend to adhere to traditional, "Christian" values. They are anti-gay, anti-intellectual, pro-life, and they hate MTV, Hollywood, and pornography because, apparently, they are destroying America's sense of morality. So, the Republican party has gained a lot of favor in these regions because they portray themselves as the party of "Christian values", and they have convinced their constituents that socialism is bad... REALLY bad. Ironically, these people live in America's poorest states, and if anyone would benefit from socialism, it would be them. Nevertheless, they oppose welfare, health care, public education, and practically every social program the United States has to offer. I know, it sounds crazy, but to these people, preserving "Christian morality" is more important to them than the strength or their Union or the quality of their education.

As for soccer, I suppose it is better to play an intense game with your neighbors than declaring war on them every fifty years or so. I think we can both agree it is a good thing Europe grew out the whole "war is good" mentality. If only America could do the same.

So what are the big soccer rivalries in Norway? Is there anything quite as competitive as the Barcelona-Madrid rivalry?
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:04 PM
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57. Riktor
Riktor

True, military issue have som complications that probely need to be adressed, sometime, somehow... And the two-party system have worked pretty wel in US, intill maybe the last 20 year or so.. In Europe everyone who disagree with the politic have the posibility to made a new party.. Even that they do have to get a number of membership before they can use it to wote in public office.. And the make the situation as in US verry dificult to make here in Europe.. In Norways currend goverment no less than 4 diferent party are in goverment, and they have maybe 100 diferent oppinions.. But it work pretty wel if I may add it.. Somehow we get a budget passet every year, and the goverment ar working pretty good for the most part...

Its verry cynical to first spend more many in goverment, and then let the other party work the bills out when they are coming.. With mr Bush expence in goverment it wil take decades of hard work before some of the debt it payd back.. Extremely cyical if the only thing you want, is to "kill the goverment" becouse they have to cut money on sosial program, education welfare and health care as you pointet it out.. Why cant the american se it as it is, but have to be told it from other places.. I dobt that every american is that *stupid* that they dosent se whats happening... Even with lower money on education and so on, everyone can se whats happening, and should have the duty to stop it... In the 1950s, when the cold war was in full blown war, what was the policy of the american goverment, both republican and democratic?. To get peopole educated, many of the currend education programs, and health care have their roots either in FDRs politic, or after the war becouse american _needed_ educated peopole to get it out of the compleesement they had lived after WW2... When the american discovered Sputnik in 1957 they was waking up, and get into gear and in the end get the first man on the moon:) Why cant they use it once more, not just to get peopole to Mars, but to educate most peopole on every part of our fantastic sience?..

I se myself as a cristian, but many of the "values" many of the american "righ" sees as so important I see as plain hypocrical thinging.. Ok I agree that abortion is a "issue" but the woman should, and have the right to do with the body as they please. I dont se the problem. If they want to take a abort, then they wil do it somway even if we outlaw it.. And with al the risk with deceses and sickness and all that...

As you as splendid told it (I hope) many who "hate sosialism" and public health care, education welfare and all the other programs who are doing good to werry poor peopole, are the same peopole who absolutely is the peopole who can NEED the programs,and who can get a better life, if they follow thru.. Its amazing from an european that dosent know about american politic, and probely are not familiar to american culture to understand that peopole who really are the one to benefit for programs like this, is the peopole who dont "want it, becouse it taste of freedom"

And for the record I really doubt that many of the men and woman, and children in "christian morality" really know about christianity or moral. I Maybee just be a "decadent unmoral european" but I have to shake my head, about many of the things that the "moral right" can tell when they have the oppotunity to do it.. The more they speak, then more stupid and arrogant they says to be if I say it.. And they are loosing out of many of the blessings that come with education.. You can stil belive in christ, and have a doctorgrad in Kosmology.. Even that it may be dificult. You can stil belive in Christ, if you have a sience grad who are giving you the iner working in the cells in the body of man.. You can live in christ, even that you have know how, how to eradicate cancer (some cancer is more dificult to ereadicate) and so on.. You dosent "need" to be arrogant of the world, werry good in your and your pastors inprentention of the bible, but really stupid of the world outside to be a good decent cristian. Many in my shurch where I go, are aducated, many times over myself, and are pretty wel off economic. But they do belive in Christ and trying their best to be faitful to the teatchings...

Absolotely, its better to play a intense game with Soccer than to kill X houndred tousands in wars now an then.. And I hope that Europe do grew out of "war is good" in 1945, when most of the european contient was bombed down and out. It still wil take time to rebuild some of the damage that was been doing in the war.. Dresden is maybee the most extreme exemple, they rebuild the old center of the town, as it was before the war, and even after the two Germans was One, Dresden was been rebuilded and some buildings was building as new.. Today most of the old Dresden are there to se, manifict, but in many cases a program who had been under construtction since the late 1950s-1960s when East Germany was starting to rebuild the old city of Dresden..

Hm, I guess Rosenborg and Brann is two soccer rivals in Norway.. I doubt they are that intensive and competive as Barclelona-Madrid, but they do have some of the same "thing" about it.. Rosenborg is the soccer club for Trondheim our 3 biggest City and Brann is the soccer club for Bergen, our 2 or 4 largest City on Norway..

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:53 PM
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10. My grandparents came here from Norway.
And brought with them . . .



Not the frozen kind, obviously. The kind that soaked in the bathtub every Christmas.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:12 PM
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17. faygokid

AH, Lutefisk, one of the primal cristmas week food;). When made OK, exelent, when made poor... not that exelent I am afraid..

"Home" we eat "juleribbe" cristmas, and then leftover cristmas day, then we have either lutefisk or pinnekjøtt what is dry cheep meat witch is boilded and served with a lot of other food.. Exelent food, but also not exactly what the doctor recoment to eat regulary. But werry, werry good;)

Where in Norway was your grandparents from?.. I dont know it was that many american with norwigian roots here on DU;)..

Diclotican

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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:28 PM
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22. Your English is better than my Norwegian.
I don't know where they came from. They were my grandparents on my father's side, and my father left us in 1960, and I lost all contact with them all as a 9 year old. They lived in Minnesota, like so many others. My mother's parents both came here from Sweden, so sometime in the past - maybe 100 years ago, maybe 1,000 years ago - you and I are related. Keep posting. I hope you note that my picture is of the Swedish chef.

I don't like lutefisk, but I have three jars of pickled herring in the refrigerator, and I grew up eating it. Also potato sausage, meatballs, lingonberry, pepperkakor, Swedish pancakes and so much more. We went to the Ikea near here last Saturday to pick up supplies, and that included Scandinavian food.

You might enjoy this. I spent my summers growing up here, and my grandparents were among the founders in 1925: http://www.vasacountryclub.com/
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:04 PM
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27.  faygokid

faygokid

Ok, it can be dificult to track back old famility to a another contient.. I tried that once, in US but get a stone wall, and then i just lost interest of it..

Sorry that you lost contact with them in the age of 9, its a age when you rembember a lot, but maybee not enought to rembember where thing are... Minnesota is a place when many norwigian, dannish and swedish settled down when they was emigrating to US. Had a lot of famility from there. many of my grandfathers familiy emigrated there and was doing it rather great there.. When my father was sailing on the seas in the 1950, he was visiting a brother of my grandfather.. And he was a big farer in Minnesota.. Dont know how great, but my father was pretty impressed..

hehe, maybee we are more realted then we belive;). From my grand, grand mother and father side we do have some "swedish blood" becouse they was living in the border with sweeden in the old times;)

I love the Swedish Shef on the Muppet show. Have a oold WHS video with a show. where the Shef was boiling a chicken.. Wel he tryed to boiling the dam thing who dosent want to be boiled then... Verry funny scene=).. I do like Kermit the frog, ms Piggy, with a hard right hooc and animal (trommetrollet) who was playing mad.. And love Ms Pffeifer by the way;);)

Lutefisk is a verry special food, many in Norway dosent eat that stuff anymore.. But I enyoy it somewat, With a lot of potaos and stuff, it are pretty good when it come to it..

Picled herring is good food, but Sweden are the specialist of that type of fish.. Have allways been I guess:) Pepperkaker is tradionaly a cristmas cocky.. And its best made homemade;).. Then you can eate some paste of the in the prosess;) Good then, but werry often pain when come down to the stomage; Ikea, the most "swedish" it is;).. Living near a IKEA its just some km down the highway and they have rebuild the whole thing.. Its bigger, and more chaotic to find thing, but I guess that is progress when thing is beeing bigger?

That was a nice place.. Loock werry wel like sweden or some part of Norway for the sake of it;). I understand why you may enyoi your stay there then;).. Think I wil bookmark this site;)

Funny about it, many emigrant who lived most of their lives in US, still missed the old world and was trying to made "some" of the new world similar if that was posible... And its still the case with douther and sons, even grandchildren, that they want to know where they are from;).. And who can blame them. Norway Sweden and Denmark are nice place to live - now when we are not that poor as we as 100 year ago...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native langauge


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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:44 PM
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31. I visited Denmark, Norway and Sweden in 1973. Went all the way to Narvik.
I was in college then, and had lots more hair. I thought the Norwegian fjords were just about the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. I plan on going back in 2011.

Have you been to the United States? I am looking to retire to here, in Michigan. It's beautiful:

http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/07/13/travel/escapes/13american.html

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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:13 PM
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37. faygokid
faygokid

So you have been in norway. Nice and you are absolutely righ, the norwigian fjords at Vestlandet is maybee wonders of the world, Have been there some times, and allways been supriced who amasing the whole thing are.. Spesially when you are driving, or coming in the fords from the sea.. It is just breattaking the whole thing.. Spesially in the summer, with the snow cap on the top, the dark stone, and then a lot of iriegreen before the cold blue water..

Nice to know that you want to travel back to. But just so you dosent be scared, It can be little expensive in Norway, I guess it is been mutch more expensive here now then it was in 1973;).. That scare a lot of pepole from traveling to Norway, the expensiveness...

Have been in US once.. Want to travel back there, but not before this S*********** is out of office.. I dont want to use a nikkel before this man who called himself "the leader of the free world" is finish and out.. Sorry about it, but just cant stand this man.. Dont hate him. Just dosent vant to se him often... I was in Florida, the Sunshine state.. For a boy who was 14 year old it was a fairytale of a trip.. Even get to Kennedy Space Center Cape Carneval.. Who was a little dream for me to see.. Bad I dosent was there to se the Space shuttle been shoot up, was little to late for that.. But what a trip... Had read a lot of the space program from a early age so I was little "familiar" with the area:)
And then Disney, Expot Center and the other places in the turist trail.. But it was amazing to see, the whole thing.. Had to write a long report on the trip back to school then.. And that was before the PC was coming to my life.. And I have never been a great writer;/.. But I do manage to write down a pretty good report from my trip.. I belive I do have the report somewhere?...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:23 PM
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38. If you ever come back (and it's cheap for you), please come see me.
I live in Maryland just north of Washington, DC, where I work. Come see us. America is not George W. Bush, and I would love to take you to the Lincoln Memorial. That's America, to me.

Plus, our favorite restaurant is near here. I hope you like Italian, because it's the best.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:49 PM
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40. faygokid
faygokid

Thank you. I wil do it, if/when I come back to US.. Loved the place, but then I was just a kid, so I guess many thing have shanged since then;)..

Ah, the Washington DC. many thing to se there, and whith the dollar fall it maybee not be that expensive to do it either;). I know that US is not just George Walker Bush, many american are warm, kind and verry welcome when it came to other who came from other country.. Sometimes I miss that straith here in Norway/europe, we are not exactly know to be the most welcome peopole on the earth. But if you manage somhow to get "under the skin" and be friends with a norwigian, you are our friends for the rest of the world. I have it from a american i once know;)

I do think about Lincon Memorial like some AMERICAN, he was a Great president I guess.. And he must have been special when the american public want to build a memorial to his memory.. They are not doing that to everyone president.. And I hope hey never wil do that to mr Bush..

I like every type of food, italians sounds great;). Are not picy when it come to food, have never been allowed to do that. And I have also the habit to eat up all the food. Its a bad habit to just eat half the food and let the rest lay...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language
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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:05 PM
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14. Excellent Assessment
You're basically correct about men like Limbaugh and O'Reilly. They deliberately target people they think won't or can't fight back. If one of their targets speaks up and challenges them, they refuse to let them on their show for a confrontation. For example, Limbaugh compared Brian McGough to a "suicide bomber"... until McGough spoke up and challenged Limbaugh to say it to his face. Limbaugh has yet to accept the challenge.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:27 PM
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21.  Riktor
Riktor

I wil call men lik O'Reilly and Limburg not great tv and radio host but plain coward who behave bad on the weak and powerless pepole.. When they fight back they crawl back to the rock where they are hiding, to next time they come out and find a new group to harass.. If it was not for the fact that many "like the bread and Circus" thing they maybee be one of this weak and out of luck peopole themself.. It is often just a accident away to get into problems, and then out of the house... And out on the street to fight for themself.. And even mr O'Reilly and mr Limburg can be one of them pretty soon, if just enough american are switching off, or to other channels who are more polite... That is maybee american have to do, its a switch botton on the radio or TV you know...

I know about the "suicide bomber" case.. Mr Limburgh cant be saing to be the braves of men, when he dont accept that schallenge.. Maybee some brave men should confront him on his statement, on air, on ads, on everytime they manage to get to him?.. To call soldiers who have fight in a was who was stupid from the start, phony soldiers becouse they want the military out of a hellhouse made by bad politicans is just stupid.. He should have been confronted on Radio, and if he dosent want to play ball, tell the radio owner that if they dosent do something, they wil be boycoted.. And ALL trade with comanies who are placing ads on his show are to been boycoted he wil soon be behave mutch better.. If many enough vetrans from the war have been treaten to do that... Mr limburghs time on the air had been numbered pretty soon... If he dosent come with a complete appology on the air to all the vetrans who had payed mutch more than this drug addicted, phedofilian old man who behave like hi is good (

Dicloican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native langauge
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:55 PM
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24. I DO like your signature line, Diclotican--very pragmatic.
nt and no sarcasm, either.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:06 PM
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28. Th1onein

Th1onein

Vel, yes pragmatic, but it is the fact.. And I dosent want to insult someone you know.. So prepare to many "bad" engelish word in the future.. But I do hope to be better when the time goes by then;)

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:09 PM
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36. Hello, my fellow European. Welcome to DU.
I'm a Dutch liberal, as my screen-name already reveals, and I have been an active member of DU for some months now. However, I've been visiting this place for at least two years already. Like yourself, I found this place to be a relief after visiting so many other American websites and internet forums, where all you heard was praise for Bush and assault on anything coming from the left.

I myself have wondered so many times how I can be that assholes like O'Reilly and Limbaugh get so much air-time. Like Norway, The Netherlands also have rules about behavior on television. We have three public tv stations, and eight commercial ones. But even on the commercial ones, you will never hear this kind of foul language. Simply because commercial tv in The Netherlands doesn't normally engage in politics. Only two commercial stations have news broadcasts, and they always try as hard as they can to stay neutral. Of course the tone, the subject matters and the style vary from the public television news broadcast, but it's never insulting like e.g. O'Reilly. We, the Dutch, are also appalled that people like him, and others like Chris Matthews, Sean Hannity and the like can call themselves 'journalists' and get away with it. Their bias is so obvious, that we wouldn't buy a single word they say.

There are a few good men on American television. Keith Olbermann is one of the finest. You might also want to check out Bill Maher, who has his own show called 'Real Time' om HBO. I discovered both men thanks to DU.

P.S. There's a spell-check option at the bottom of each post.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 07:37 PM
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39. DutchLiberal
DutchLiberal

Hello A fellow European here too;).. God to know when you are in strange place, that you cant bump into a fellow traveler here and there;).. Have been on DU a cople of year, but just startet to write.. I have allways enyoued reading "the top then idiots" and just shake my head about the whole think.. I know we have our fare share of idiots in politics, but when it come to america, they are just seeing to be totaly normal... the european politican then;)

I to wonder why assholes like mr O'Reilly and Limbugh can get airtimes in US at all. In Norway we have a "be careful rule" who in broad prospect give the rules why the yournalist have to play bye.. Sometime they step over the line, but then they get into more truble than its worth..
I wonder that it is a culturelle thing to, when european media dosent behave like this.. Historically the media have been pretty strict govern by the goverment, and if you behave "bad" you get in more problem then you can handle.

Mutch the same here, in Norway when it trying to stay nautral. The medias role, if they have news is to tell the news, dont make the news headlines.. And that is maybee who make the best news after all?... And then you dosent get peopole like mr O'Reilly and Rush Limbugh who act as assholes instead of Journalists... They are not that in the european wiew of the proffesion anyway... And the most of the peopole would't by a single word they say.. And if they was given free time here in Europe, they wil get a hard time defend themself - on air or on TV if they managed to live true the first comersial segments.. I guess it would be a VERRY short lived experiment in most europan countrys..

I know that is still some fine good men in american television still. Keith Oldermann is maybee one of the few I know about.. And I have seen mr Bill Maher on "real time" sometimes.. Not yelling and shouting, but calm speaking desent and with a twist of the "old" and wel, good news. But I guess he isent selling enough for the "MSN" Media who want big headlines, and lound speak.. YOU know Bread and Circus for the masses.. The Roman perfected that politic for 2000 year since.. Verry bad they havent told us when to stop using that simple way of showing themself as some stupid asses in the same way...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native language
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:51 PM
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55. Interestingly, a Dutch news commentator stated last week he would like to be "the Dutch O'Reilly".
Of course, I think he's insane for wanting to be like O'Reilly, but I also know that, despite his rabid right-wing point of view, he's far too polite to come even near O'Reilly. Maybe he meant he wants to have the same attention O'Reilly gets? But that would be bad publicity, although bad publicity surprisingly has never hurt Bill O'Reilly's career. In a country that is *so* 'politically correct' as is the US (like you can't show nudity or obscene gestures on tv, you can't say the f-word on tv), you would expect a foul-mouthing racist like O'Reilly to be fired right away. I wonder how that can be.

In The Netherlands, we do have a politician who behaves very much like O'Reilly, however, and he's very popular with the people. He has now 9 seats in parliament (out of 150) and polls indicate, in a next election he could get even 18 seats. It worries me that so many people are that intolerant.

(P.S. I like to do the spell-check because everytime it detects the word "O'Reilly" I can choose to 'ignore' him, lol!)
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:14 PM
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58. DutchLiberal
DutchLiberal

I see, but how long you belive he wil be on public airwaiwes if he behave 1/10 the way Mr O'Reilly is behaving in the US?.. Two days, a week, maybee a month.. Even the liberal Netherlands wil not give this type of behaviour long time on the air.. Not as i know it then...

Its pretty amasing that its not allowed to show a nude body on the TV, when in US the most of the PORN is made.. Or for that sake, made up after the WW2... When the WHS was public, many american millionaries was building ut their imperiums, at the back of porn.. Even Playboy who are pretty "tasty" today have a history they werry seldom want to expose to the american public... If they do, I guess that Playboy have to relocate to Europe to stay afloat...

I do to wonder why a foul-mounting men like O'Reilly and Rush Limburgh get more than One hour on the airwaies before they are fired hard and indiscrimate.. They use all the trics in the faul book, and somehow manage to stay afloat... I just cant undestand it.. But then I am just a european then;)

Yes I know, the nederlands do have "some issues" there. I guess many european country, as Norway have a problem with faul politican, who try to tell public what they want to hear, regardness of the truth or not.. That is the achillesheel of our democracy thet you can get politican who want to tear things around and then made a reality they already have decided about.. Even that its not true..

Good Idea, to use spell check becouse of the thing that you can shoose to ignore him;).

Diclotican

Sorry my bad engelish, not my native langauge
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:12 PM
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5. Thanks, Hissyspit!~ I don't
have those cable shows so I don't watch KO and this was really cathartic..cause if you read these abominations that these idiots, pretending to be people, say.. then there's this seething Anger inside but seeing KO get the expose out on the airwaves is at least fighting back!!

Where in the hell would we be without KO, Jon, Colbert, Gore(internet), Dean and the rest of our humans interested in justice?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:27 PM
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7. I can't believe msnbc allowed that. Amazing.
Those comments about O'reilly are stronger than any I've ever heard on tv. Great!
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:41 PM
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8. Bill O"Reily is not enough of a human being
That pretty much sums that sociopath up. And good for Keith for calling out the freepers on Free Republic as sociopaths too. They follow their own nut bag pipers like Michelle Malkin and Bill O'Liely.

Sonia
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:00 PM
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12. I respect Keith Olberman for telling the unvarnished truth
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:00 PM
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13. Don't hold back, Keith - tell us how you really feel!
What a miserable trio of losers. What is even sadder is the horde of people who look up to them as "leaders."

It took all my stomach could stand to watch this video - it was almost too much.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:08 PM
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15. if it weren't for KO there would be no truth in the M$M
Hard to believe these monstrous psychopaths are allowed airtime. Kudos to KO for calling them out on their idiocy and true hateful nature. O'Reilly is a sexual deviant himself so no wonder he shows favor to his kind. Fatass Limbaugh is a clueless drug addict chicken hawk coward who hides behind a radio mic. Then there's the basement Nazi shut-ins at free republic who are too busy masturbating to Soldier of Fortune and mailing fake Anthrax to people to ever bother any fact checking when they make compete total asses of themselves. Bravo! You make it way too easy for us.
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:27 PM
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20. The only quibble I have with KO's "Worst Person in the World"
which I think is great, is that the music he uses for it is by the sublime and profound genius J.S. Bach.

I suppose it's true that for quite a few people, because of its use in countless horror movies, etc., the organ, and this piece in particular, a magnificent toccata in d minor, might conjure up ghoulish images of the phantom of the opera or other such sinister creatures, but it kind of bugs me that the musician whom I revere as a god should have his astonishingly beautiful music associated with scumbags like Limbaugh, O'Reilly and others of their ilk.

Just thought I'd get that off my chest.

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:40 PM
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32. it feels good to get things out in the open, dont it! lol n/t
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:46 PM
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33. Maybe MSNBC should add the complete fugue
and just skip the last 12 minutes of infotainment news.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 12:40 AM
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44. I'm not sure I could endure much more reality and truth on the teevee.
I'm usually so disheartened and discouraged and pissed off after the first 45 mins, a little fluff is sometimes a respite.

What's a fugue?
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 04:17 AM
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46. Bach's Toccata & Fugue in d minor is Keith's worst person music.
He wrote several. The toccata is the slower first part and the fugue is the second section - usually a faster tempo. He wrote them for organ, harpsichord and clavichord, but many have been transcribed for orchestra. Eugene Ormandy and the Philadelphia orch in the 1950s was big on transcriptions of Bach's keyboard music.
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:52 AM
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54. Ahhhh, yes, the music that sounds like every old horror movie soundtrack?
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 04:58 PM
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25. Keith was PISSED
Most of the time, Keith does the "Worst Persons" because he's laughing at these wingnut idiots. Last night was different. He was PISSED OFF at BillO. You could see it through the camera. If BillO had been in the studio, Keith would have physically attacked him. Of course, do you blame him?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 05:10 PM
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30. Oh he sure was.
That bastard that kidnapped that boy just pleaded guilty, too. Thank god. Now that boy won't have to testify about all the horrible things that happened to him.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 06:58 PM
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34. Keith's logic is flawed. These are not persons.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 08:28 PM
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42. Blimpaugh and Freeptards...a stunning combination of scumbag slime.
I think Olbermann was too KIND to these fucks. If something happens to the kid or his family, I hope those responsible for posting their address are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Free Republic = human refuse.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 11:24 AM
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48. What a disgusting bunch !
These no good S.O.Bs have no shame. They are the very worst example
of America. Yet so many worship the ground these pathetic misfits walk upon.:puke:


Thank You Hissyspit :bounce::hi:
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:25 PM
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50. All I can say is "Wow"! rec'd
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Flashman7 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 01:56 PM
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51. thanx
thanx for the link.

the quote from O'reilly is simply beyond the pale. 5 stars to olberman for calling him out, and calling him out but good.

the freerepubs and their giving out of addresses? they should be sued for all they're worth (if worthlessness can have any worth...)

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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 04:41 PM
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52. Is Keith great or what! Saw it last nite but
it is worth a second look. You are able to pick up a few more subtle words and expressions.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:49 PM
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56. ttt
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