Someone is overheard coaching Mitt Romney DURING THE DEBATE

[Clintonista2]

Run time: 00:10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX3Xc8mA3B4   Posted on YouTube: January 25, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: January 25, 2008 By DU Member: Clintonista2 Views on DU: 6000

 

[saracat]

1. So the rumours about Bush were probably true as well? I think this should disqualify any

candidate who does such a thing. From the Debate at least.Has MSM commented?

[Clintonista2]

12. An MSNBC blogger wrote about this, AND THEN MSNBC DELETED IT

[ryanmuegge]

56. Of course. If this had been a Democrat, though, they would run this clip all day.

Not that GE cares that much who wins; they more or less own both parties. They would rather have the Republicans win, since they completely own the Republicans.

[SmellsLikeDeanSpirit]

2. It was the ghostly voice of Ronald Regan IMO.

[orleans]

3. omg! what the fuck? just like bush and his little back box!

is this real though. how could the mic possibly pick up something off an earpiece?

[Maraya1969]

19. Yes and it could easily be dubbed over after the original taping.

[Clintonista2]

28. No, many DUers were watching it live when it happened

For example: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4190602#4190876

[Maraya1969]

41. Thanks for that. I did not know

[flasoapbox]

34. Maybe Mitt was using a wireless earpiece...

and it was on the same frequency as another device that picked it up?

[Unsane]

4. I heard that on the replay just now!!!!

WTF!?!?

[Zynx]

5. That was actually kinda scary.

[trusty elf]

6. Outrageous!

What a slimy cheating bastard.


I wonder what glitch enabled that little whispering voice to be overheard?

[JDPriestly]

7. Is this actually the original debate video?

Or was this tape tampered with by someone? This is not believable. Tell me this is not true, please.

[FlyingSquirrel]

8. Oh for criminy sakes of COURSE it's true.

And it will be erased and fixed and then replayed without the whisper to show the American people that it never happened. Just an internet hoax. "Those bloggers'll do anything to stir things up won't they?"

[JDPriestly]

36. If this is true, Romney will be the Republican candidate.

Surely only the anointed one would be able to get by with this.

[BigBearJohn]

11. I listened to the debate live and it was definitely there. I questioned its source too.

[Clintonista2]

13. I actually looked this up on youtube after a DUer in GD talked about hearing it live

during the debate.

[TheUniverse]

32. I heard it live, it most certainly is true

[Jennifer C]

9. MSNBC First Read had a blog post up about it, but they've taken it down.

[BobbyVan]

37. Fascinating!

There's a good chance that Brian Williams was the one talking, but whatever happened, they owe us an explanation!

[JDPriestly]

50. Why would Brian Williams have said that.

Look at the expression on Romney's face. He is listening and then repeating what he hears. The person asking the question asks something very different. Besides, Brian Williams surely would not have been whispering at a time like that.

[Usrename]

10. What a hugh moran!!1!1!111

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

14. You "heard" it here first! :-)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4190602#4190877

MKJ

[Acadia Blue]

15. He is an oily sleazy rich con man who has sacred underware that

according to his religion is supposed to protect him. I suppose it was his magical underware talking into his earphones

[rosetta627]

17. Great remark Acadia Blue

eot

[medeak]

16. thanks for making me feel sane

I heard it during debate and thought I was hallucinating

[JohnnyLib2]

18. Well, ol' GWB and Romney both need the help......

otherwise, I'm appalled.

[shayes51]

20. Just like his brother W

[SlingBlade]

21. LMFAO

:)

[davidswanson]

22. Isn't

Isn't Don't Raise Taxes the answer regardless of the question?

To get busted cheating on that has got to have the other candidates laughing their asses off, but apparently not SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

[Clintonista2]

26. Ron Paul is talking about it

as far as I'm aware of, no other candidate is.

[mother earth]

23. Guess I wasn't the only one who clearly heard "raised taxes".

Those idiots can't even hold up to questioning never mind lead a country. I'm not surprised at all Romney, the tourist that was governor of MA, is too much of a plastic doll to ever have the smarts to answer intelligently on the spur of any moment.

Go back to the Olympics, Romney....if they'll have you. You just got disqualified!

[Kokonoe]

24. It sounded to me that someone was explaining the end of the

question of "what raygun did in 83". Probably one of Timmy's helpers or some studio person. Maybe even a dirty trick.

[thereismore]

27. I agree. It was someone explaining what was meant by that question. nt

[JDPriestly]

58. Sure sounds like a prompt to Romney for me.

[davidswanson]

25. NEED BACK OF COAT IMAGE

Anybody got any images of Romney from all angles?

[bdamomma]

29. who was whispering to him, Mitt Romney what a POS he is.

so artificial and just playing the game and us, we have had enough of these people.

[Krashkopf]

30. Come on now folks . . .

we're crossing over into REAL tin foil hat stuff here. As much as I can't stand that phoney Romney (he, and his 5 military-age, YELLOW ELEPHANT sons, make me sick) but, how do we know that HE heard the whisper?

Isn't it MORE likely that a producer, or someone else, in the MSNBC Control Room whispered it without knowing that he was near an open mike?

[saracat]

33. That is a bit of a "stretch".to justify this.Someone was obviously feeding Mitt answers.

There is no other logical explanation.

[Kokonoe]

35. yes, ,just an open mike

This can get spun a hundred ways. It will be interesting to see if MSM spins this for McCain or hypes the story.

[davidswanson]

38. Following developments here

ROMNEY WHISPER: Is Russert Covering for Romney or Himself?
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/30432

UPDATE: MSNBC has given Raw Story an explanation that explains nothing, saying Romney's microphone was not working. That's funny: during the whisper, Romney's lips aren't moving. What difference would it have made in any way for his microphone to have been working or not working?

Romney's (or is it Russert's? or one of the other candidates'?) debate cheating may finally force this collection of evidence of Bush's cheating into the news. Why did MNBC delete its blog post about it (and the reader comments that preceded and were referred to in the blog post)? Please CONTACT THE MEDIA.

We know Bush cheated.
We know almost certainly that somebody just cheated in this latest debate.
We can be pretty sure the media questioners cheat, which - among other reasons - makes them reluctant to report on candidate cheating.
We can suspect that the person who cheated in the latest debate was Romney, but it could have been Russert or one of the other candidates.

If there's an innocent explanation, why the coverup on the blog and the nonsense explanation?

[bhwhite]

39. It appears Romney heard the prompt and responded to it

While the source of the voice is unknown, it does appear that Romney responded to the prompt.

What does not make sense to me is the general impression that Romney would not need help the same way Bush clearly did. So why risk the total blow-out being caught would cause, especially for what would seem to be a marginal advantage?

[DefenseLawyer]

31. Later the voice told Willard to build a baseball field

which ultimately doomed his campaign.

[kerstin]

40. I know this sounds crazy, but it sounds like Timmy himself to me

clarifying his question. Perhaps he mouthed "raised taxes" not realizing he could be heard.

Of course it would still constitute an assist, the implications of which would be vast. (Though, sadly, nothing new to DU media watchers.)

[HereSince1628]

43. I thought it sounded like McCain. If it's an ear piece thing why would it be on the audio?

I think Mitt got a hand on that one from somewhere, but I don't know that it means he used W's wireless earpiece.

[kerstin]

44. I think you may be right. Perhaps a voice analysis is in order? n/t

[HereSince1628]

47. But who has the $$ to do that? Certainly not poor old blogs. n/t

[0007]

42. It would seem to me that who ever was coaching, must've

had a copy of the questions.

Does that make sense to anyone?

[Junkdrawer]

46. I think Romney was coached on Russert's Questions before the Debate...

The REAL scandal of the Romney whisper is that Romney knew the thrust of the question BEFORE Russert could finish it.

Transcript:

Russert: Governor Romney, you're a big fan of Ronald Reagan. Will you do for Social Security what Ronald Reagan did in 1983?

(Whisper): raised taxes

Romney: I'm not gonna raise taxes. What I'm gonna do...

Russert: Well Ronald Reagan raised the payroll tax and he raised the retirement age...

Romney: I'm not gonna raise taxes


The whisper was to Russert, but Romney KNEW where Russert was going before Russert got there.

[kerstin]

51. I think you may have something here.

Also the question was vague enough that you would have expected at least a momentary pause on the part of Romney, yet Romney doesn't skip a beat and (like you said) seems to know precisely what was meant.

It would be interesting to compare Romney's debate performance last night with his prior performances. This is the first debate I know of where he was considered to have "stood out." He also was the recipient of the most air time (by far, apparently). It's obvious he's being showcased.

Where am I living that these thoughts go through my head as a matter of course? :-(

[rcsl1998]

45. Is There A Clip Of Mitt Saying 'I Don't Care About The Voters' From Last Night's 'Debate' ??? (nt)

[Beregond2]

48. Mitt

And nothing will come of this, any more than when Dubya appeared at a debate looking like a hunchback with that receiver under his suit, insisting that no shots be taken of him from behind, and pausing to listen to his prompter before every response. Had we had a real candidate, he would have insisted Bush take off his jacket and turn around before the cameras, and if he refused, demanded to know why. When that didn't happen, I knew Kerry had no chance.

[Evergreen Emerald]

49. That is scary stuff. And he is getting high marks for his performance

Has MSM responded yet or are they too busy attacking Clinton?

[andyrowe]

52. Freaky but I really do think it's like a pre-loop

I've cut it up in my audio software (adobe audition), and the cadence of the whisper and part of mittens first sentence match up. I think what happen was the live audio signal was imposed for a short time on the delayed signal we normally see. The whisper seems to begin during the question after some clicking noise and what's heard seems to be the "-a raise taxes" of Mittens "I'm not gonna raise taxes" statement he begins with. The consonants seem to line up when the audio is examined visually.

It's not definite though. It definitely does have a strong whisper quality to it. I'm 70/30 on my theory.

[kerstin]

53. Brian Williams was on stage and claims to have heard it live through his earpiece.

:shrug:

[andyrowe]

54. I hadn't heard this.

When did he say that?

[kerstin]

55. It's on his blog. (Friday's entry I believe.) n/t

[rcsl1998]

57. No! That Would Be Mitt (In Full Voice) Twice...

...this was definitely a whisper, then Mitt speaking (in full voice)