Olbermann: Iraq & a Hard Place (Clinton Votes) - 2/1/08

[Hissyspit]

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MSNBC Countdown w/ KEITH OLBERMANN - Keith talks with Richard Wolffe on Hillary Clinton's rationalizations on her Iraq votes.

[OHdem10]

1. Just like one of my hero's--Bobby Kennedy who was running

against a war HE ONCE SUPPORTED, Hilary has a difficult time
with the Absolutists on the Left in our Party.

[MoJoWorkin]

2. But she won't admit she was wrong, and keeps trying to justify her vote

with an ever-changing rationale.

[OHdem10]

3. I do not know how to express this adequately but Hilary cannot

admit she was wrong. Politically, it just cannot happen.

As a former Edwards supporter, He wrote an OP ED Piece proclaiming
how wrong he was. It really did not buy him that much and
for Politicals it is something you do not do.

The same thing goes for Bush. He can never admit he was wrong.

I do not know how to explain this but there are some things
a President or Candidate can never do.

It may have helped Edwards with Activists but Activists are
only a miniscule number among the whole of the electorate.

HRC went up 8 points after the Debates. I must admit Obama
made his case with clarity ror the war issue. Yet HRC won
the debate as far as the Focus Group on CNN. 60% said they
would vote for her. People do not strain over things like
this.

[Hissyspit]

5. Actually, it may cost her the nomination.

But, regardless, following your logic, it seems to me that that makes her kind of a shitty person.

[Popol Vuh]

11. Speaks Volumes

about her credibility then doesn't it? How can you trust somebody with the power of the White House who you, in your own words, agree she's being dishonest?

So what you're saying is 'the ends justify the means'? That she is more important than the truth and honesty? Etc, etc...

Sorry, but I do not subscribe to the notion that any person is more important than truth and honesty.

[quakerboy]

14. so

If I get this.. its OK because Bush does it too?

I am not settled in who I will vote for. Everytime I settle on a choice, they drop out (dodd, kucinich, edwards). But that seems like a really bad argument to me

[fascisthunter]

6. You Call the Left Whatever you Like but One Thing for Sure and Consistant

the LEFT has been right all along. Go ahead, call us "loony", "absolutists", "whinners", whatever the hell suits your needs, but we have been raising hell for years and people like Hillary haven't bothered to listen to us, neither do her supporters. You'd think by now such adults would give credit where credit is due and stop BSing about the left. It's getting old and a bit pathetic. It's why I won't support Hillary if she wins the nomination. That's her doing, you know why? Because it's up to candidates to WIN VOTER's APPROVAL... That's a DEMOCRACY, it's part of our Freedom to chose a candidate that best suits our desire for a President. Nothing is owed... Take responsibility and stop the real whinning...

[Dangerman]

4. I'd rather vote ofor Obama.

[Sam Ervin jret]

7. If the only issue were "who got the war right , the most times and who got it right

FIRST.

BOTH THESE AMETURES WOULD BE SITTING DOWN.

Can we PLEASE ask them about today's VOTES, like what are you going to do about FISA? Will you push for impeachment and why or why not? What will you do with the office of homeland security and how will it differ from each other's and from a republican administration? From this past administration?

You know questions about today and tomorrow, not "let's see if we can make someone say they made a mistake during an election questions." AN "I got you" question! That crap can wait for the "tell ALL" bios.

Wake up America! Don't you know when you are being led around by the nose? Even if you love the piece of meat your following(and I do love Keith) you're still being led around and asking the wrong questions.

Does Obama's turning away from a hand shake mean he has a personality flaw, does Hillary not being "able to say she's sorry" mean she has a personality flaw?

YES! SURE! WHO the HELL Doesn't. You want a damn robot running the place vote for Cheney.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

9. Hillary's war is costing us everything

Hillary's war has us in debt to China, and nearly bankrupt.

Who can afford health care for all when we are spending billions on an illegal war?

Voting for her is to reward her pro war vote, the most important and worst vote she ever made.

[provis99]

10. on that hand shake,

Hillary's campaign put out the idea that Obama slighted her on a hand shake. As became clear later, she actually slighted him, by reaching to shake Ted Kennedy's hand rather than his; the angle of the photo was an ambiguous one. So again its Hillary's campaign stooping to low tactics, not Obama. Personality flaws Hillary: 2; Obama: 0.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

8. she got Iraq wrong, and she got Iran wrong - and she stands firmly wrong

I think she is too smart to have made these choices by mistake, and there is no ignoring her
DLC membership.

[Adam4tvs]

12. Wow.

I am an Obama supporter, but this raggin' on Hillary on the war vote is a little much. Several senators voted on that assuming the inspections would continue and that we would not go without the UN's support. They were all hoodwinked.

It's more of a statement to Bush's idiocy than theirs.

[proud2BlibKansan]

13. K&R