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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:32 PM
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Unbelievable video of a man speaking at the Florida evolution hearings.
 
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It is almost self-explanatory. I am embarrassed for my state. Here is what the website that posted the video had to say.

Now I'm sure this guy thought his rhetoric was cute, but it was nothing more than rhetoric. All this really shows is how pathetically out of touch some Floridians are with modern science. I think this video more than anything else is evidence that Florida should make evolution a larger part of their science curriculum. Florida, do you really want to condemn your youth to doltish ramblings that mimic this guy's? I certainly hope not. Please, please, for the love of all that is holy; quickly, quietly, up your education standards.


I wrote more from that website about a shocking poll on the subject
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:36 PM
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1. sounds like a preacher.
But yes, we're all star stuff in the end.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 10:05 PM
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40. watch the people behind him. I personally would sue him for the
waste of irretrievable minutes listening to his psychosis if I were on the board.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:40 PM
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2. Another faithless fundamentalist.
He has a belief system so fragile that he needs to search for proof - and not being able to find it makes some up.
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better tomorrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:44 PM
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3. New Quote.....
The original quote was, "All this really shows is how pathetically out of touch some Floridians are with modern science."

All I have to say is that I, too, am embarrassed for my state, just like MadFloridian. After all, we got disenfranchised in 2000 with hanging chads and then again in 2008 in the primaries with delegates. The quote should be: "all this really shows is how pathetically out of touch some Floridians are with modern voting."
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:51 PM
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5. Good one.
:hi:
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:54 PM
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8. I'm from Florida also....sigh.....but hate to admit it.
:)
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:47 PM
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! the truck driver anecdote about being on I-60?
 
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There is no Interstate 60.
http://www.answers.com/topic/list-of-interstate-highways?cat=travel
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:54 PM
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7. I never thought about that. Interesting.
That was such a weird tale..I did not know whether to laugh or cry.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:57 PM
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9. lol...You caught that too, huh?
and exit 5## whatever? There are only 4 stretches of interstate inside a state long enough to have a mile marker 500 or higher. I 5 in CA, I 90 in Montana, I 10 across Texas and I 20 across Texas.

People like that make me ashamed to be a Floridian.
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:47 PM
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4. "Argumentum ad Orangeum"
What a fucking nitwit.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:52 PM
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6. LOL
:rofl:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:00 AM
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10. This is why I am fleeing this state.
I work with people like this. They make "decisions" that effect other people. Scary shit.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:57 AM
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15. Same here....
left 4 years ago and I don't regret it one iota. Snow and ice I can deal with, ignorance and superstition...... no.
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jhrobbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:55 PM
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34. What is the deal with Florida? Not rhetorical - I'm really asking.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:56 AM
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11. Yes, sir, we're all related to oranges.
So what? Was there a point to all that? I mean besides displaying his mind-boggling ignorance for all the world to see?
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:59 AM
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12. Heightened stupidity, an embarrassment to the orange.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:01 AM
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13. page 167 was all he could find to take argument with? Shouldn't go off his meds.
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trusty elf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:19 AM
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14. Yikes, that IS embarrassing!
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 05:20 AM by tomeboy
Sigh, I'm glad I live abroad and am thus somewhat removed from this peculiarly American brand of ignorance and bone-headed stupidity.

That clown wears it like a badge of honor!

It's shocking, appalling, and embarrassing, yes, but It's also very funny, actually!

What a magnificent rhetoritician! Move over Cicero!
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:35 AM
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16. that was so embarassing i couldn't keep watching.
my 15-year-old son, a sophomore in high school, is taking world history. his teacher laid it out as if the kids were free to make a choice about history: there were the oldest human bones found (4.8 million years old), then there is the creationist theory, that gawd started it all in 6 days some 6,000 years ago, then there's intelligent design...

public school in NC, USA. eek
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:15 AM
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17. He's right, oranges are not cats & dogs.
Lets give him credit for that. And why didn't they let him collect everyones money.
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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:19 AM
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18. We live in Florida and there are more!
Every once in a while, we run into a poor mentally deformed thinker like the speaker in the video. They are allowed to vote, shop, drive and intermingle with others. After years of of misinformation they believe what they say-facts are unimportant.

They believe god has given them the correct information. We are returning to the Northeast where people like the speaker are treated as being mentally ill. He may have children.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 11:43 AM
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25. Ha Ha "vote, shop, drive and intermingle with others."
Yep in Florida they are allowed. :o
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 01:23 PM
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27. They can certify election results and be Governor, too.
That was priceless. He was pitching the Board of Education, no less. Wow, that sure was convincing. I bet somewhere in our USA, a teacher is presenting things roughly the same way, sad to say.
Someone ought to study the environmental factors in Florida that naturally selected that guy.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:59 AM
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19. maybe Oranges make you stupid.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:18 AM
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20. Where will you flee to? This mind-cancer is spreading across our nation.
People willing to suspend disbelief. The worsening economic gloom will only foster this willingness to cling to the supernatural.
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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:33 PM
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42. Just a thought about fleeing
Although my wife and I have decided to stay in the fight, I must admit that we have thought of leaving.


Canada is very nice and similar enough to the US in some ways to be comforting. They get a LOT more for the same tax rates we have .



New Zealand is off the hook beautiful and they will fast track immigration for anyone on their list of occupations/professions that they need.



England. It's expensive but you get great infrastructure, deep history, an educated population , 4 - 6 weeks paid vacation a year and you are hours away from the rest of the EU.



You have options. Check them out.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:25 AM
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21. For the sake of humanity, women must be selective in mate choices.
In particular, I hope they know a fool when they meet one.

Be careful who you mate with, or you end up with oranges for brains! :rofl:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:28 AM
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23. Thank heaven he wasn't fondling rhubarb like he was fondling
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 09:29 AM by rasputin1952
those oranges...:evilgrin:

on edit: or a banana...:eyes:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:27 AM
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22. So why did the oranges have to be connected to dogs and cats?
Seems to me, he was far more related to vegetable matter than any cat of dog I ever knew.

I was discussing Genesis w/a friend of mine one day, and asked that if the story was true, as described and he was prone to accept, if Adam and Eve had Caine and Abel, Cain kills Abel, why are we here, the genetic line ended at that point?

For that matter, why did God tell Cain to go build cities and get himself a wife...cities for who, a wife from where?

He told me that we don't have all of the answers, and I replied, "precisely, and that is why we search for the answers".
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:42 AM
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24. wow , hes the king of 'out of context'
isnt he ?
lol

no, it couldnt mean that we all need each other to co-exist and depend on each other for survival... naaah.. that couldnt be what it meant.


yup, we are are 4th cousins of oranges. i told jimmy not to stick his thingy in there !
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 12:04 PM
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26. In fairness to Floridians
the audience sure seemed underwhelmed.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:15 PM
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28. Global warming wouldn't be ALL bad.
Watching the Science channel last night, it was reasoned that the state of Florida would disappear if all the ice on the planet melted. See - there's good 'n bad to everything! :woohoo:
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Mr_Scarecrow Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:25 PM
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29. Hilarious
how the guy relates the "trucker's story" and gets in a nasty swipe at the people he's trying to convince. To paraphrase, "The maggots combined with the turkeys and the result was the Board of Education. Now kindly do what I'm telling you." Sure!

All this guy had to do was appear reasonable for three minutes. Instead, he proudly displayed his ingorance and sociopathic people skills. Intelligent design? I think not!


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H8fascistcons Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:22 PM
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30. I know who went to school with this freak!!!
It was the decider Foster W. Brooks....(Georgie Bush)
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CarlG Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:28 PM
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32. Had to be home schooled
So how many home schooled children are educated just like him.
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Kjaereste Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:01 PM
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36. Homeschooling is for progressives, too.
I'm a Floridian and homeschooled my children so they *wouldn't* be exposed to this sort of "education." Please don't stereotype people.

Kate
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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:37 PM
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43. Some but not all ...
... I know some very well educated home schooled kids ... of course I don't hang out in the dumber churches.




... Now is you want to meet some off the hook well educated kids then go and check out a Waldorf school. Without fail, the kids that I met from Waldorf schools were WAYYYYYYYYYYY ahead of the curve.
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CarlG Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 03:26 PM
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31. Rapture, please hurry
I could not believe this. It has to be made up. The orange has more intelligence than this man. I really hope the rapture comes soon and gets these religious fools out of here. Course then we are stuck with the other faith religious fools. Showed this to some other christians and they were embarrassed.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 04:54 PM
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33. self-deleted
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 05:01 PM by KansDem

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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:37 PM
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35. DUMB DUMB
How did he get the microphone?
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:07 PM
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37. A case study in logical fallacies
This should be shown to middle schoolers and explained in detail how it is wrong on many many levels.

Do we not teach critical thinking skills any longer in our schools?
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 07:30 PM
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38. He's related to a turnip
x
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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 12:39 PM
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44. I grew up on the prairies...
... and we would say that he is a son of a corncob.



If you have to ask what that means, you don't want to know.
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Arbolitoazul Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:17 PM
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39. Thank God intelligence design has not been approved
In many states. i believe Kansas approved it, and correct me if I'm wrong.
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Fedja Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 10:45 AM
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41. He's just confused.
Confused about "close relation" and "distant relation". Same as his parents were when they married in the family.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-20-08 06:15 PM
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45. I'd be less embarrassed being related to an orange than be related to him
At least an orange has brains enough to shut its damn fool mouth rather than look stupid.
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