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jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:30 AM
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The truth about Hillary Clinton's Iraq war vote
 
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A look back at Hillary Clinton's statements about her vote for the Iraq war, starting from the debate on Tuesday and working back to September, 2002. It's like watching Hillary debate herself.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:40 AM
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1. Bush started the Iraq War, not Hillary Clinton, just for your information.
And Clinton's said many times if she knew then what she knows now she wouldn't have voted the way she did.
You DUbamas need to learn a new tune.
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:55 AM
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2. Bush would have never been able to start that war if it wern't for people like Hillary
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:57 AM
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3. You do know it was in the plans even before he was elected, don't you?
Pay attention.
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jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:58 AM
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5. how could she have trusted him? how naive is she?
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:03 AM
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6. Exactly... the US military has plans for invading just about every country on Earth
Hillary has been running for pres since she got into the Senate in 2001, she didn't want to be painted as soft on defense. She started building her pro-defense credentials... the Iraq war was a gamble that didn't pay off.
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jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:04 AM
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7. look who's risky now, eh?
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jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 08:57 AM
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4. yeah. it's doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, either.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:04 AM
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8. Didn't Bill Clinton also agree that the invasion was the right thing to do?
Edited on Fri Feb-29-08 09:05 AM by rainy
I think I recall him on a talk show supporting the war.
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jedreport Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:10 AM
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9. yep. but whether he admits it, it depends when you asked him
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nvme Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 09:50 AM
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10. Amazing
How we reward failure in this country. Campaign run on inevitability failed. A war authorization against a sovereign nation that had not attacked us. A pre-emptive war. The only thing considered was the Imediacy of not seeming weak. You gave up the authority. you authorized the ability to wreak havoc to a man who for 8 minutes listened to "my pet goat" during the 9/11 attacks. You should not be awarded the presidency for that reason alone.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-29-08 10:35 AM
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11. Thank you. n/t
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:09 AM
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12. Hillary believes in "coercive diplomacy."
The way coercive diplomacy goes is like this:

We'd love to talk with you, but only after you do what we tell you to do. If you don't do what we tell you to do, we reserve the right to hurt you, bad.

It is basic human nature to resist coercion. Threats do not make people want to cooperate. Therefore such a stance almost guarantees that the one making the threats will follow through with physical punishment of some kind, usually violent.

Giving the president more power was a big mistake and she did it with her eyes open. She hasn't got my confidence.

I heard a little story many years ago, about a child who wanted to play with a neighboring child, and the mother forbade it, saying that the other was a 'bad child.' Her kid responded: if the good chidren won't play with him how will he learn how to be good?

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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 02:23 PM
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13. bush stole the 2k election...
and 911? sure was conveenient, no? bush 'won the trifecta' thereby, he giggles to gasping audiences of the fattest pigs on earth- Ms Clinton saw what them 'pukes did to Bill; yet she 'authorised' him/them to what?
The war was on the American people, and representative democracy...Iraq was just a cover.
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