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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:19 AM
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How long does it take to name a crisis Hillary's handled?
 
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This is an actual phone call to Hillary's campaign spokesperson.

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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 04:31 AM
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1. k&r.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:08 AM
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2. K&R
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:41 AM
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3. Oh...That's EASY to answer- WALMART union troubles! She solved that crisis and quick!
Here's how!
When those pesky workers at Walmart tried to organize a union- she did NOTHING!
When this issue came up in consideration for inclusion in her presidential bio, she was QUICk
and DECISIVE when she said- leave it out of my bio.
Any more questions?

Link:http://www.hillaryproject.com/index.php?/en/story-details/hillary_clinton_remained_silent_as_wal_mart_fought_unions/

"In six years as a member of the Wal-Mart board of directors, between 1986 and 1992, Hillary Clinton remained silent as the world's largest retailer waged a major campaign against labor unions seeking to represent store workers.
Clinton has been endorsed for president by more than a dozen unions, according to her campaign Web site, which omits any reference to her role at Wal-Mart in its detailed biography of her."

Come on, next time give us a REAL challenge!

BHN
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 06:39 AM
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4. Here Are Two Examples of Hillary Handling Crises Right Off the Bat...
Hostage Situation In Rochester Ends With Man's Arrest
Last Hostage Taken From Clinton's Office Before Man Taken Into Custody

Friday, December 1, 2007 began with possible tragedy: a hostage crisis at Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign office in Rochester, N.H

A disturbed man (who claimed he had a bomb) took hostages in the Rochester, New Hampshire, headquarters of the Hillary Clinton campaign. Over a period of several hours, all of the hostages were released. And eventually the hostage-taker, Lee Eisenberg, surrendered without incident.

When the incident began, Hillary Clinton was in the Washington area. She cancelled her campaign schedule for the day and immediately travelled to New Hampshire, where she met with law enforcement and the families of the hostages. Clinton made at least two public statements during the day, and she held a news conference after the ordeal ended. Clinton's actions were certainly appropriate for the incident, and her statements were sober and direct.

video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDWBs3E5hk4

text: http://www.wmur.com/news/14737868/detail.html

Officer In Clinton Motorcade Killed In Crash
Clinton Cancels Fort Worth Campaign Rally Following Officer's Death

DALLAS (CBS 11 News) A Dallas police motorcycle officer crashed and was killed Friday while escorting the Hillary Clinton motorcade to a campaign rally.

Sen. Cpl. Victor Lozada, a 20-year veteran of the department, was apparently rounding a curve on the Houston Street viaduct when he hit a curb and crashed his motorcycle. No other motorcycles, or vehicles participating in the motorcade, were involved in the accident.

Clinton was scheduled to attend a rally in Fort Worth after the Dallas event. She went to Fort Worth and spoke to supporters while standing in front of the Tarrant County Courthouse.

Moments after taking the microphone Clinton told the crowd about the death of Corporal Lozada and said she was canceling the rally. "It would be inappropriate for me to take this opportunity, as I had planned to be with you, to talk about the election," Clinton explained to her supporters.

video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2997893799737544573

text http://cbs11tv.com/local/clinton.motorcade.crash.2.660392.html
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 08:13 AM
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7. That's it?
Obama has not been arguing that he has extensive experience.

Clinton has been. The problem that folks have with Clinton is that her experience, such as it is, consists mostly of upholding a status quo that we don't think is good for America. I don't want that kind of experience.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:00 AM
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8. Well done.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:38 AM
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10. Huh? She personally "handled" these? Really? And they were crises? Really?
She did what ANYONE would do -- canceled her scheduled and showed up to say "sorry."
That's not a crises, that's a situation. Mostly, what my mom would say, manners.

And not a situation where Sen Clinton could "do" anything.

In the case of the hostage situation in NH, I think you better give the credit to local authorities.
In the case of the death of the officer, I think you better give the credit to his fellow officers.

In these crises, Sen Clinton was a bystander.

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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:12 PM
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15. The Way I See It...
In the hostage situation, Hillary flew back to NH where the danger was and presented herself to take on any duty the local police might ask of her including, I would guess, talking to the hostage-taker through a safe hook up -- since it was her offices and her personnel he chose to hold.

And there may have been some desire on his part to get communication with her or get some favor from her in return for letting the hostages go.

And she was there to coordinate anything beyond the scope of a local PD.

She presented herself there in the location of the situation, in the fashion a commander-in-chief would.

Unlike George Bush who sat dumbfounded like a complete dork and then resumed reading My Pet Goat to a group of school kids, as the Towers were crashing down on 9/11, and then high-tailed it as far away from the location of the disaster as fast as he could.

In the case of the motorcycle policeman who was killed, she put a halt to a rally that might have meant a difference in the number of her votes to do the decent thing and go sit with the officer's family at the hospital.

Also, no one can deny her strength in the face of what the Republicans made a national crisis over her husband's peccadillo and the impeachment. She could not have known with any certainty what would happen to her husband and her family, but she stuck in there and stood by him, even defending him to the press.

And there was a legislation, that the Dems needed to get through the senate -- I haven't got all the detail immediately available -- but I need to look them up anyway, but she pulled what looked like a number to get the full attention on her and took the blame and a lot of heat for something, while her fellow Dems were able to get whatever it was through.

At first, not understanding what was going on, I was ticked at her and was wondering what she was thinking with that maneuver -- and then it dawned on me that she had done what a mother bird does when it drags a wing. It gets the attention of the predators off her babies and onto her. And that's exactly what she did. She used whatever she had the power over as a bargaining chip to help the legislation get through.

She does what a leader does. She does what a soldier and a survivor do in all things.

Hillary can handle a crisis. We've all seen her do it even if we didn't notice or took it for granted. But she can and does.

She's 17 years older than Barack and yet she has kept up the same break neck pace he has during this campaign and with less money and less support.

Anyone should try to put in the miles she has at 61 and see what it's like.

But Hillary can handle it and crises, too.

And so far Obama hasn't shown that he can handle anything.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:47 PM
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18. Welcome to DU
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 01:49 PM by DrZeeLit
Nope.
Not the least bit convincing, baby bird/mommy analogy NOT a good one.
And the age gap?
I think you just made the case for Sen McCain.

She doesn't have any more experience -- she was the WIFE of a President. She didn't get security briefings. She had a social secretary.
And she moved to New York because a seat was vacant. She didn't even run in her home state. Because she was the WIFE of a president.

As far as grace under pressure, I think you better look at who is being targetted for assassination right now.
And who has the whole lynching, middle name, religion-flap, black, slavery ancestor stuff to overcome.

And less money? Less support? Whoa baby, she was the Favorite. She had a HUGE bankroll. And more.
She and her husband make record millions on book deals.

Come on.. you gotta know the name of the legislation if you're gonna pull that card.
Details.

I'm not sure where I land on all this. I''m reading everything I can get my hands on.
But don't give me a load of crap and call it sugar pops.
Just don't.

Get your facts right before you pop off.

A cheating husband is NOT a crisis. Been there, done that.
Getting legislation through Congress is not a crisis.

A crisis is missiles in Cuba.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 01:08 PM
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17. Same amount of time it took Bush to finish reading "My Pet Goat" and get on AF 1 -- brilliant!!
WTG Hillary, well done on the hostage crisis!! Your just as competent as Dubya was on 911, wooohooo!!~

And that right turn to the hospital... good show!!

:rofl: :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 02:02 PM
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19. SIMPLYB1980, Evergreen Emerald, and golddigger...
Good to meet you and to see your posts.

Thank you.
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iaviate1 Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 01:20 AM
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26. I've dealt with bigger issues than those two...
keep digging.
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anonymeme Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 06:44 AM
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5. Now You Name Me ANY Crises Obama Has Handled...
Now You Name Me ANY Crises Obama Has Handled...

Aside from tossing water bottles in the general direction of whatever attention-seeking drama queen has "fainted" in his audience -- the way the teen-aged girls used to "faint" at Elvis or the Beatles -- what crises has Obama ever handled at all?

Thanks.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 06:59 AM
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6. Tick tock...
:popcorn:
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:01 AM
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9. I think you'll have to wait a while.
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:03 AM
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12. 3 hrs and counting...
:popcorn:
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 10:10 AM
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13. Running out of popcorn waiting...have to go to safeway and get more
I will be back in an hour.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:55 AM
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25. It's gonna be a pretty long wait - like FOREVER, since obama has not handled a SINGLE CRISIS...
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:12 PM
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14. LOL! Obama's not the one basing his whole campaign
on all the "experience" that's going to keep everyone safe.

Fact is that Hillary has no more experience sitting in the hot seat making decisions about crises than Obama. That whole meme is bullshit.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 12:13 AM
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28. Neither of them have handled crises
Neither of them have significant executive experience

One of them, however, is running on the platform of having sufficient experience to reliably handle crises.
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-03-08 04:15 PM
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29. I guess they're tied then - 0 to 0
On to the next criteria to use to choose a candidate.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 09:50 AM
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11. Fuck BOTH candidates. period.
Edited on Sat Mar-01-08 09:51 AM by stlsaxman
My choice was made. whoever gets the nomination will get my vote in November. period.

This fucking bashing of/from either candidate is childish and trivial and i'm SICK of it. period.

Either way we're fucked. period.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 12:23 PM
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16. The double standard on DU is amazing.
Obama supporters will rationalize anything to support Obama even if they have to turn into a pretzel to do it.

Clinton's experience in foreign relations far exceeds Obama's. And Clinton is unafraid to take a stand. Obama passes and misses votes because he can later claim any stance. He is padding his resume and she is attempting to change the world for the better.


Obama has a couple of foundations of his campaign:
--his words are inspiring (and then we find out they are not his words)....
--He has been against the war from the beginning (and then we find out when it mattered, he has voted the very same as Clinton).

These facts do not seem to matter to Obama supporters....yet they are searching for one time when Clinton was in an emergency and how she handled it to prove that she is not more qualified to be President? She is not running for EMT or Firefighter. And her experience far exceeds Obama's.
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JoeySoCal Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 02:46 PM
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20. Your bitterness is misdirected
Apparently you are actually upset with Hillary's 3AM ad, highlighting the themes of EMT or Firegfighter type 'fear inducing' emergencies. She brings this junk, and is getting it thrown back in her face. You are surprised why? Again, the logical conclusion of your post is that your actual resentment is toward the campaign for bringing 'firehouse red' telephones into the equation. Keep it straight, bucko.
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-01-08 05:05 PM
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21. LOVE this!
You lifted it from the conference call yesterday!

Genius!

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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:25 AM
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22. Hmmm, how long do I have?
Can't think of one!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:34 AM
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23. Time to stick a fork in it, Hillary.
K&R
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 12:42 AM
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24. I can't believe they ran an ad...
and didn't discuss possible talking points if someone asked them to highlight specific examples to validate their claims. This isn't just any old supporter they're asking this question of, this is a CAMPAIGN SPOKESPERSON.

Unreal.

This is quickly becoming the worst joke of a campaign I have personally ever seen.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-02-08 02:28 AM
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27. Excellent post!!!
Are the Obama people aware of this video??

:rofl:
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