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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:18 PM
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The Day Joe Biden Threatened to Kick My Ass

http://www.counterpunch.com/amiri02012007.html


It was nearly two decades ago, yet the memory of a campus speech delivered by Senator Joseph Biden of Delaware remains especially vivid (and even more so after hearing his latest gaffe to Senator Barack Obama). The topic was predictably foreign policy, on which he is allegedly an expert, but reason for attending was not to hear the verbose senator sanctimoniously expound on international relations. Rather, it was in anticipation of the question and answer session to follow. At the time, Israel was in the throws of the first intifada.

After responding to a few softballs, my persistent hand was acknowledged. I prefaced my remarks with the following two quotes, the first by Winston Churchill:

"The cause of unrest in Palestine, and the only cause, arises from the Zionist movement, and from our promises and pledges in regard to it" (House of Commons, 14 June 1921).

The second, a poignant comment by the late Israeli civil rights activist Dr. Israel Shahak:

"You cannot have humane Zionism. It is a contradiction in terms" (Journal of Palestine Studies, vol. IV, 1975).

Thereafter, I posed the following question to the good senator:

"Rather than succumb to the influence of various lobbying groups in Washington, such as AIPAC, and the untold amounts of money it uses to dictate policy, wouldn't it be more prudent to examine the real effects that collective punishment, daily humiliation, and countless civilian causalities inflicted by the Israelis have on an occupied population, and use that understanding to formulate a more rational approach toward the Palestinians?"

Senator Biden proceeded to walk directly from the podium to me--literally nose-to-nose--and we engaged in an uneasy back-and-forth about the influence of the Israeli lobby on US diplomacy in the Middle East and the heavy-handed approach (quite an understatement, but a polite phrase nonetheless) that Israel routinely uses to deal with all its problems.

Shortly thereafter Biden turned, put his arm around my shoulder, and addressed the audience.

"If this was not such a fine, articulate, and sincere young man, and he implied that my vote had been bought, I would give him a swift kick in the ass."

The audience roared in applause.

Satisfied, however, that my point had been delivered and rebutted with only an insult, I sat down.

The next question happen to come from a friend of mine sitting directly behind me.

"If my father heard you say such a thing, I believe he would have done the same to you first."
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so Biden is the kind of bully that gets all up in your face, smiles and laughs while giving you a threat.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:19 PM
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1. "But, but, this is much ado about nothing!"
That's what you'll hear from the Biden apologists on this board, nothing but excuses for a man that has a track record of being an idiot while having a smile on his face.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:24 PM
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"being an idiot while having a smile on his face."
As apt a description of Biden's standard approach as I've heard!
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:26 PM
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4. Haha, glad you liked it!
If there was only a way to implement his propensity for double-speak and tap-dancing, it would be complete.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:24 PM
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2. Sorta like GW Bush? ntg
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Mrspeeker Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:24 PM
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3. theres no sides
They are all money kings in the quest for power. They represent no real party just big companys and money!!!!!
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liberal hypnotist Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:28 PM
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5. Congratulations!
I don't know Joe Biden, but he always struck me as bit of a pompous ass. You deserve congratulations for standing up for a very difficult position. Worry not, Joe is it for the "short haul."
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 01:41 PM
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6. Sounds like he uses the word 'articulate' a lot...
perhaps because he knows *he* isn't? I mean, an articulate politician doesn't respond to debate by talking of 'kicking people in the ass'.

I don't know a lot about Biden to be honest, but I get the impression that he's much better than the Republicans, and that he will be a much better chair of the Foreign Relations Committee than his Republican counterparts, but that he would definitely *not* be a good president.

He also doesn't sound like a very nice man on a personal level - but few very nice people get into positions of power (alas!).
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