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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:40 PM
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Is Lieberman really a Centrist?
I can't remember who it was on the news, but they stated that progressives were against Bush's Iraq policies, while Lieberman, who was more Centrist, supported him.

That sounds like someone is pushing the envelope of "Centrist" so Lieberman sounds like a moderate. I think he's anything but moderate, but, where exactly does he stand? And is it time for us to define if "Centrists" really support Bush's Iraq plans?
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:42 PM
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1. LIEberMe is a puke who deserves shame and scorn for what he has done.
We'll kick him to the curb in '08.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:42 PM
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2. Is the Pope Italian?
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Karmageddon Donating Member (596 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:44 PM
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3. Only if by "centrist" you mean the * dead center between the cheeks
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:45 PM
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5. LOL!
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:45 PM
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4. Lieberman's voting record is liberal on some issues. On the war he is a hawk, not a "Centrist" n/t
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:47 PM
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6. I say yes politically, AND he is a religious fanatic!!!
Edited on Thu Feb-01-07 03:47 PM by Nimrod2005
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:51 PM
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7. So you're saying that Centrists, as a rule, support Bush's Iraq policy?
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:55 PM
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9. No, I am talking about his voting record in the Senate.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:58 PM
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12. Okay, I'm saying that he no longer is an example of a Centrist.
He's getting far too much credibility by being called one.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:01 PM
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16. Hell yes, I agree 100%
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:52 PM
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8. no, hes the only thing keeping Biden, Leahy, Levin in chairmanshp positions
I wish people would think BIG PICTURE.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:59 PM
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14. And that's going to change if a bunch of people on a message board trash him?
Edited on Thu Feb-01-07 04:00 PM by Hippo_Tron
Besides, he has no incentive to become a Republican. He has far more bargaining power if he caucuses with the Democrats than if he caucuses with the GOP. Especially since he'd probably have to share his chairmanship with the ranking democrat if the Senate were 50/50.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:57 PM
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10. Yes, unfortunately his center represents the mid point
between conservative Democrats and far right neocons.

You have to describe either end to find out where the center lies.

It's not the true center, of course, but describing the two ends does make him resemble some sort of centrist.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:57 PM
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11. Social centrist....But neocon just about everywhere else.
n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 03:59 PM
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13. Define centrist.
Centrist according to the media definition would be someone that supports pre-emptive war and no constitutional checks and balances or rights. I call that fascism.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:04 PM
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17. I think then...
that either Lieberman is no longer a Centrist, OR, most people are no longer Centrist.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:24 PM
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21. Or the media is redefining reality and centrist for the public.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 05:04 PM
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29. I see that too.
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Idioteque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:00 PM
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15. He's a libertarian's nightmare...
Neoconservative on foreign policy, socialist on on economic policy, and nanny statist on social policy.

He basically wants the the government to run every bit of everybody's life. I can honestly say that he is my least favorite politician.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:04 PM
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18. My opinion of Lieberman is that he is a Quisling, which
if you know your Nazi history, makes him a traitor. Let's get this straight, today's politics aren't really about left, moderate and right, but those of us who back those who honor the Constitution and those of us who back the treasonous secret consortiums who don't. Those who back them, like Lieberman, are treasonous IMHO.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:10 PM
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19. OH! Maybe we'll learn more about Quislings in the next Harry Potter
book? Quislings sound like Squibs who really have magical powers, but pretend to be muggles. Sort of like an unregistered animagus.

Sorry, I'm trying to gather strength to get back outside to finish a job. Thanks for the info. I like the word "Quisling." I encounter many of them types in everyday life.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:55 PM
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25. Major Vidkun Abraham Lauritz Quisling was a Norwegian
who collaborated with the Nazis when they occupied Norway. Sorry, he has nothing to do with Harry Potter. :-)

Although, he originally became a communist, he became enamoured of the Nazi philosophy but was unable to be elected to Parlaiment in a country as democratic as Norway. Because of this he helped the Nazis to gain a foothold in Norway.

When the Germans secured Oslo Quisling declared himself head of a new Norwegian government under Germany. The Norwegians fortunately resisted. Although he eventually was tried for treason and sentenced to death, he got life imprisonment instead.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 05:03 PM
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28. Thanks!
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:11 PM
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20. He thinks he's the center of the universe, if that's what you mean.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:25 PM
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22. Is this a 'trick'question? What's the 'punchline'? nt
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:26 PM
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23. On Iraq he's anything but a centrist
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 05:05 PM
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30. That's my point.
I think he's getting more mileage out of being called a "Centrist" than he deserves. It confuses people who don't know him like we do.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:28 PM
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24. When he's at least just as much to the right as Bush on..
Edited on Thu Feb-01-07 04:28 PM by mvd
the war, that's a reactionary position. Not a centrist IMO.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 05:05 PM
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31. Exactly.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:55 PM
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26. Are war hawks centrists? nt
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 05:06 PM
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32. I think we're beyond the median point on the war issue.
Which is why he should be redefined as anything to the right of Centrist.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 04:57 PM
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27. He's a Likudnick
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-01-07 05:11 PM
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33. Centrist my ass! He is a lying scumbag.
If this dirtbag is in the center, where the hell is the right? He's providing political cover for dimwit over the hertbreaking disaster that was katrina. He supports the war.. He doesn't care about the wishes of the democratic voter ( he lost the primary and ran anyway). This pasty faced dickwad is anything but centrist. The current left is probably about where the center should be right now, but because of this insane fascist shift to the right, everything is off.
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