Senator Clinton hasn't learned a damn thing from the Iraq fiasco

[NNN0LHI]

http://www.khaleejtimes.ae/DisplayArticleNew.asp?xfile=data/theworld/2007/February/theworld_February53.xml§ion=theworld

Hillary Clinton calls Iran a threat to US, Israel

(AP)

2 February 2007

NEW YORK - Calling Iran a danger to the US and one of Israel’s greatest threats, US senator and presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said no option can be taken off the table’ when dealing with that nation.

US policy must be clear and unequivocal: We cannot, we should not, we must not permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons,’ the Democrat told a crowd of Israel supporters. In dealing with this threat ... no option can be taken off the table.’

Clinton spoke at a Manhattan dinner held by the largest pro-Israel lobbying group in the U.S., the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Some 1,700 supporters applauded as she cited her efforts on behalf of the Jewish state and spoke scathingly of Iran’s decision to hold a conference last month that questioned whether the Holocaust took place.

To deny the Holocaust places Iran’s leadership in company with the most despicable bigots and historical revisionists,’ Clinton said, criticizing what she called the Iranian administration’s pro-terrorist, anti-American, anti-Israeli rhetoric.’

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1. largest pro-Israel lobbying group

well of course....

[HereSince1628]

2. One of the big digs on every woman candidate will be they aren't tough enough

to be a commander in chief. This sort of tough talk by HRC is part of the "Iron Lady" strategy to overcome that.

[Deja Q]

3. Cut funding to other governments who want to help Iran. AND

don't offshore jobs to countries that will help Iran. Last I heard, Russia is being eyed for "development" and last I heard they're also quite friendly.

Since money is as much a weapon as anything else, there's a lot of bizarre activity going on. Globalization is good yet we have to defend our home countries from a threat being made by the friends of the countries we're giving infrastructure to?

If there is some sort of benevolent "Let's all be friends" thing going on, it's about time somebody said as much so we get a clue and work for a common good. Right now it's just greed and the corporate element behind it all is simply playing russian roulette with the whole world. Either we all become one global country or we be isolationist in ALL things. Not this cherrypicking nonsense going on.

[Avalux]

4. Not a surprise; she wants their money.

So Hillary - let me ask you a follow-up question:

You say we must not permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons. If you become president, how will you keep that from happening? Would you be willing to talk to them, or will you continue the failed foreign policies of the Bush adminstration? Will you continue the neocon agenda and flatten them?

[Bonobo]

5. Knockin' 'em flat, like she promised!

Boy, she's tough. What a bold, bold thing to say.

:sarcasm:

[Captain Hilts]

6. Iran IS stirring up trouble in Gaza and is also helping anti-US forces...

that are protecting a government of their allies .

She shouldn't have agreed that the Holocaust happened? I'm confused by your inclusion of that paragraph.

[NNN0LHI]

8. We currently have a president who denies hundreds of thousands of Iraqis have died

All because God told him to invade and occupy Iraq. He says its only about 30,000...or so.

We have a bigger problem than Iran right here in America that we need to address.

I think Senator Clinton needs to recognize this.

Don

[Captain Hilts]

12. I agree, but it doesn't take away from Iran's adventurism in the area.

I wish we and Iran would get our footprint out of Iraq and Israel.

[LSK]

10. that is such a simplistic statement for such a complicated issue

[Captain Hilts]

15. Iran isn't involved in Iraq and Gaza?

They are. That's not a pro-Israel or pro-US in Iraq statement. It's just a fact.

In Iraq they're helping attack forces that are protecting the Shiia govt. they support. This makes no sense. And it's another reason we should not be there. Make Iraq someone else's problem.

[LSK]

16. seems to me that Iran has more of a right to be there than we do

As they have to live in the region. We dont. At least if we ever got off oil we wouldnt.

[Jacobin]

11. So what?

I, for one, am not on the "Israel and the United States against the entire world" boat.

[Captain Hilts]

13. Neither am I and I intensely dislike AIPAC. nt

[Alamom]

18. SOS, Mookie...this is # 2 thread already. No matter what she says,

it will be picked apart, the good tossed and one word someone doesn't like will be blown up to mammoth proportions....


Hillary says "I think it might rain, maybe a lot , so lets check the weather
& watch to see...take the proper precautions if there is a storm brewing."


Translation by Hillary Haters; "Hillary says the US will have the largest Tsunami ever recorded anywhere on earth."




God save us from Hillary Clinton as she is the only politician responsible for anything & everything bad that is happening in this country and around the world AND for everything bad that has ever happened in the past and will happen in the future. She is worse than any Repuke we can or could ever vote for. Amen :sarcasm:


So predictable.....

[LSK]

7. they all say pretty much the same except DK n/t

[Jacobin]

9. She's learned where large campaign contributions come from

[Beer Snob-50]

HRC is making sense here people

While we have to dangle the THREAT of military action, we have to use diplomatic means to stop Irans preceived nuclear threat. That is what she is saying.

Unlike the current administration who doesn't negotiate with it's enemies, Hillary is saying we should.

[Captain Hilts]

17. Right! THIS is the difference between a smart president and a stupid one.

It's not about supporting an attack on Iran.

[Beer Snob-50]

21. Exactly!

Hillary is saying nothing wrong.

Most on the right believe that she can say nothing right. That she is simply sucking up to whatever group she is talking to and that she is all about the money.

[Larkspur]

14. And Israel is a nation that practices apartheid against Palestinians

And Isreal is a major threat to Iran. Israel has the 4th or 5th most powerfuls military in the world. They are more of a threat to Iran than the other way around.

[Gloria]

19. It's how you say it...her emphasis will enable Bushco because

the media will focus on the "threat" part versus any discussion of diplomacy.

Why doesn't she emphasize diplomacy? Clark is the only one who speaks rationally and consistently on this subject in a statesmanlike manner. And he knows who's pushing the agenda...and got in trouble for it.

[Captain Hilts]

22. Bushco "enables" itself. They decided to invade Iraq in 1998. What anyone else...

does just doesn't matter.

It's not our fault we're at war in Iraq.
It's not the senate's fault we're at war in Iraq.

It's the Bush Administration's fault. Don't let them off so easily.

[ima_sinnic]

20. isn't this the same function that Edwards also attended (spoke at)?

I wonder what he said there? He's also all puffed up about Iran, and his cozying up to AIPAC just lost him for me (I expected this from Pill, anyway, but not Edwards so much).