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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:54 PM
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Folks,I've just about had it!
This is what I got in my E-mail this morning,so I hit the reply to all button. God,I am so sick of this ratwing propaganda.Here is my reply. The E-mail is below my reply. :grr: :argh:




If all this is true then WHY ARE WE STILL OVER THERE????????

Glad to see they are doing so well,but wouldn't it be nice if our tax dollars were being spent HERE for OUR kids and HEALTH CARE for US? Geez...













Did you know?
I didn't know!

How could we?

Did you know that 47 countries' have re-established
Their embassies in Iraq?

Did you know that the Iraqi government currently
Employs 1.2 million Iraqi people?

Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated,
364 schools are under rehabilitation,
263 new schools are now under construction
And 38 new schools have been completed in Iraq?

Did you know that Iraq's higher educational structure consists of
20 Universities, 46 Institutes or colleges and 4 research centers,
All currently operating?

Did you know that 25 Iraq students departed for the United States
In January 2005 for the re-established Fulbright program?

Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is operational?
They have 5 - 100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels
And a naval infantry regiment.

Did you know that Iraq's Air Force consists of three operational
Squadrons, which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US C-130 transport aircraft (under Iraqi operational control) which operate day and night, and will soon add 16 UH-1 helicopters and
4 Bell Jet Rangers?

Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist unit
And a Commando Battalion?

Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000
Fully trained and equipped police officers?

Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq
That produce over 3500 new officers each 8 weeks?

Did you know there are more than 1100 building projects going on in Iraq? They include 364 schools, 67 public clinics, 15 hospitals,
83 railroad stations, 22 oil facilities, 93 water facilities
And 69 electrical facilities.

Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5
Have received the first 2 series of polio vaccinations?
Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were enrolled
In primary school by mid October?

Did you know that there are 1,192,000 cell phone subscribers in Iraq
And phone use has gone up 158%?

Did you know that Iraq has an independent media that consists
Of 75 radio stations, 180 newspapers and 10 television stations?

Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange
Opened in June of 2004?

Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi presidential
Election had a televised debate recently?

OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW!

WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?

OUR MEDIA WON'T TELL US!

THANK YOU NBC, CBS & ABC !!!

Instead of reflecting our love for our country,
We get photos of flag burning incidents at Abu Ghraib
And people throwing snowballs at the presidential motorcades.

Tragically, the lack of accentuating the positive in Iraq
Serves two purposes:
It is intended to undermine the world's perception of the
United States thus minimizing consequent support,
And it is intended to discourage American citizens.

---- Above facts are verifiable on the Department of Defense web site.
http://www.defenselink.mil/

......Pass it on! Give it a Wide Dissemination!



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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:57 PM
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1. Was Iraq in the Stone Ages before we invaded?
Geeze.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 01:59 PM
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2. Damn that's an old email. It was written 4 years ago.
Edited on Fri Feb-02-07 02:05 PM by tjwash
That qualifies it as SNOPES old.

Don't let it bug you hoss, that email's been passed around as much as the Bush twins at a frat house kegger. Think back 4 years ago and that should put it in perspective. Bush's popularity was in the high FIFTIES back then for corn sake.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:05 PM
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4. LOL!
The only thing that bothers me is they keep passing all this bu$hit around like it's the truth.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:02 PM
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3. it is all BS those people have no water and no electricity
all that money we are pumping into Iraq is profane, in the meantime this country is going in a hole. * has to go.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:06 PM
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5. If they want to talk about
'Did you knows...'

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=HAS20051007&articleId=1054


Prior to the arrival of U.S. forces, Iraqi women were free to go wherever they wish and wear whatever they like. The 1970 Iraqi constitution, gave Iraqi women equity and liberty unmatched in the Muslim World. Since the U.S. invasion, Iraqi women’s rights have fallen to the lowest level in Iraq’s history. Under the new U.S.-crafted constitution, which will be put to referendum on the 15 October while the bloodbath mounts each day, women’s rights will be oppressed and the role of women in Iraqi society will be curtailed and relegated to the caring for “children and the elderly”.



~~~snip~~~

Since March 2003, Iraqi women have been brutally attacked, kidnapped and intimidated from participating in Iraqi society. The generation-old equality and liberty laws have been, replaced by Middle Ages laws that strip women of their rights and put them in the same oppressive life as women in Afghanistan, the nation which the U.S. invaded to “liberate” its oppressed women. The 1970 Iraqi constitution is not only the most progressive constitution in the Muslim World, but also the most equal. Iraqis were mentioned only as “citizens”, and Iraqi women’s rights were specifically protected.

In December 2003, the U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council (IGC) – constituted mostly of the current puppet government – approved resolution 137, which will replace Iraq’s 1959 Personal Status Laws with religious law to be administered by conservative religious clerics from different religious groups with different interpretation of Islamic laws. The laws could affect women’s rights to education, employment, and freedom of movement, divorce, children custody and inheritance. The 55-member Constitutional Committee, who allegedly drafted – under the American radar – the new constitution, is only 17 per cent women. Like the January elections, the drafting of the constitution was undemocratic and lack public participation. Amid the escalation of violence, Iraqis are asked to vote on a constitution they do not understand. Many Iraqis believe “the new constitution weakens the state and strengthens religion within the government”, which can be used to suppress people’s rights and freedom in general and women’s rights in particular. Its main purpose is to legitimise the Occupation and the puppet government. Iraqis, women in particular do not need a constitution; they need peace and security.

Under previous governments, “Iraqi women have enjoyed some of the most modern legal protections in the Muslim world, under a civil code that prohibits marriage below the age of 18, arbitrary divorce and male favouritism in child custody and property inheritance disputes”, as accurately described by Pamela Constable of the Washington Post. “Saddam did not touch those rights, but the U.S.-appointed IGC have voted to wipe them out”, added Pamela Constable. It is noteworthy that due to women’s participation in the Iraqi society, modern Iraq was an important cultural powerhouse before the invasion. It exported education, including arts and sciences to the rest of the Arab World.




Tell them to pass that on.

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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:11 PM
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8. Hey thanks!
I will send this article out.I wish I had it before I replied to them a while ago. :hi:
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:49 PM
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16. It's verified here
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

I think it was in August sometime she wrote about how women can no longer go out alone or wear what they wish anymore.
It's another big lose of this war, women have been set back decades. Sadaam was a bad guy but the Iraqi's are so much worse off now because of us, because of greed. They haven't won anything and neither have we. It will take generations before any good will can restored because of this gang, because of conservatism and it's lack of respect for life itself.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:07 PM
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6. Reply: Did you know that we've spent 500 BILLION DOLLARS in IRAQ?
and counting! Kind of doesn't sound like much for the money. And they still keep killing each other and our soldiers. Meanwhile New Orleans and the Gulf Coast remains in pieces.

RW idiots. God I wish they would go over there to their "Paradise" and check it out for themselves.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:08 PM
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7. Went to the supplied link for verification and got this.
Disclaimer for External Links
The appearance of external hyperlinks does not constitute endorsement by the United States Department of Defense of the linked web sites, or the information, products or services contained therein. For other than authorized activities such as military exchanges and Morale, Welfare and Recreation (MWR) sites, the United States Department of Defense does not exercise any editorial control over the information you may find at these locations.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:11 PM
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9. EMAIL
That always gets me how they always praise how Iraq doing and how everything is
opening, while there are thousands of homeless here in the US, and we are losing
jobs to overseas.
Why do they care more about Iraq then the US???


Instead of reflecting our love for our country,
We get photos of flag burning incidents at Abu Ghraib
And people throwing snowballs at the presidential motorcade................reflecting love for our country??, this is their reflecting love for Iraq

But then again, they cant stand muslims and arabs.........figure that one out
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:13 PM
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11. Ratwingers are delusional
They have shit for brains so they can't think or comprehend reality. They make me sick.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:12 PM
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10. Am I expected to believe
the dod?

Aren't these the same people who stated the oil revenues would fund all of the reconstruction?

Also, weren't all of these in places just fine before we went in and blew them up?

If there are such strides taking place, I think we can bring them home now.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:15 PM
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12. A couple of responses ..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-lewis/rearranging-the-deckchair_b_37912.html

and .. here .... http://vitw.org/archives/174 (scroll down a bit)

note: yea the original e mail you got is a bit dated and has been going around in different forms for a bit now. Peace.
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maggiegault Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:16 PM
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13. Did You Know...?
Did you know that our troops are subjected to hostile fire 24 a day, every day, the first war in recorded history to have that little unpleasant fact?

Did you know that many of our troops never receive care packages from anyone in the United States, because they are orphans, foster children, or "throwaway" people who the Bush administration could care less about? (After all, it's easy to send some idiotic "Damn right!" jingoistic bullshit email than to actually put forth the effort to create and send a package to our troops.)

Did you know that the United States government "supports its troops" by refusing to pay for 100% of the airfare back to the United States? It's true. They will pay for transport to one U.S. airport. After that, the soldier is on his or her own.

Did you know that our wounded troops are charged for phone calls home to the States, for many aspects of their care, and for many of their meals, after a certain point?

Did you know that we already have veterans of Operation Iraqi Oil walking the streets of our cities, homeless?

Did you know that a Marine, home on leave, recently committed suicide, rather than face going back to Iraq?

Did you know that the so-called "Iraqi troops" are, by and large, those who served under Saddam Hussein?

Did you know that, for the majority of Iraqis, our troops are viewed as invaders, the enemy, and that they are treated as such?

Did you know that many of our troops are mentally ill with anxiety disorders and PTSD?

Did you know that these mentally ill troops are being redeployed without delay, despite the advice of psychiatrists who have stepped in to help with the overwhelming surge in Army psych patients?

Did you know that a GRANDMOTHER of two beautiful babies was just killed last weekend when her National Guard helicopter was shot down?

Did you know that over 3000 American families grieve the loss of their beautiful, wonderful loved one?

Did you know that when a troop is killed in *'s War for Lies and Oil, it means that they ARE NEVER EVER COMING BACK?

Did you know that the average age of a U.S. soldier killed in Iraq is 19 years old?

Did you know that the draft being reinstated has been an acknowledged fact among our Armed Forces, as a necessity, from as far back as Spring 2004?

Did you know that many Iraqis, unfortunately, despite the best efforts of our soldiers, have whatever good that was created taken away by Sunnis and Shiites who are resentful not only of our troops, but of each other?

Did you know that many Iraqis, many living in Baghdad, actually, have no electricity at all, or if they do, it is three or four hours a day, at best?

Did you know that Iraqi children are starving to death because their parents are either too poor or too afraid to go out to the open markets?

Did you know that the wonderful schools being built for the Iraqi children are, in fact, standing vacant, because parents refuse to permit their children to go there, for fear of bombings and violence?

Did you know that many Iraqi children are orphaned now, as a result of *'s War for Oil?

Did you know that many of our troops are parents, and that their children are lonely and frightened at the absence of their Mommy or Daddy?

Did you know that many children in the USA must now live with the legacy that *'s War For Oil has brought to their doorstep? That many children will grow up never knowing their soldier parent?

Did you know that the majority of our troops supported John Kerry in the 2004 election?

Did you know that the majority of our troops view * as a poser, a liar, and someone who was not man enough to do the job that * is asking THEM to do?

Did you know that our troops want to come home?

Did you know that the majority of our troops feel as though Iraq is a lost cause, and that we never should have been there in the first place? (Many joined up, in fact, to help in the fight against Osama bin Laden.)

Did you know that Osama bin Laden still walks a free man, six years after the 9/11 attacks?

Did you know that the bin Laden family has close ties to the * family?

Did you know that our troops have realized that they have been lied to by * and his mongrels, and that they are mad as hell?

Did you know that * has set back military recruitment by 50 years, and that a draft is inevitable if we remain in Iraq?

Did you know that * is putting our troops in unthinkable danger by starting shit with Iran, despite international intelligence and Army intelligence advising that Iran does not want war with us?

Did you know that * was condescending, rude, and belittling to a soldier who recently had the audacity to ask * what * would do if the "surge" didn't work?

Did you know that * declared "mission accomplished" because he could therefore authorize a discontinuation in combat pay to our deployed troops?

Did you know that bullshit emails like yours do nothing to support our troops or bring them home, or right the wrongs we have perpetrated in Iraq, which far outweigh whatever "good" we may have done?
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:35 PM
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14. Did you know that 2.7 million Iraqis are projected to be displaced from their homes by end of 2007
because their country is in such great shape?

In a report from Radio Free Europe:

The growing number of IDPs (internally displaced persons) in Iraq has also led to an influx of refugees into neighboring states. The UNHCR estimates that the number of Iraqis who have fled to neighboring states includes 500,000 to 1 million in Syria, up to 700,000 in Jordan, 80,000 in Egypt, and 40,000 in Lebanon.

For the whole report:


http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2007/01/022DCF6F-769E-4F17-B689-BD0B0BB7FA87.html


Did you know you could move to Iraq and get a real bargain on a home, given these numbers? So why don't you go?
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:38 PM
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15. Make yourself feel better
Cut and paste a copy of the e-mail here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=284

and then add the link to the debunk at Snopes and a link to your original thread. Then, in the future, other DUers who get this crap can access it (courtesy of you) :)

(I would title the post "E-mail: Did you know?")

Here's an example for reference:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=284x309
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-02-07 02:51 PM
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17. What a crock of shit.
:eyes: Must have been written by a FAUX NEWS watcher.
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