The Plan to Disappear Canada

[JohnyCanuck]

The Plan to Disappear Canada

'Deep integration' comes out of shadows.

If the machinations going on in this country regarding so-called "deep integration" were instead a communist conspiracy to take over the country (you will, of course, have to try hard to imagine this) the news media would be blaring the story.

Pundits would pontificate, editorialists would erupt, security forces would be unleashed.

Instead, a virtual conspiracy to make the country disappear through assimilation into the U.S. gets barely a mention.

But news of the scheme -- formally called the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) -- is finally breaking out of the secret chambers of the ruling elite and the federal government. This is both good news and bad. It's good that ordinary citizens are finally getting a glimpse of the betrayal of their country. The news is bad because it reflects just how much of this scheme is already being implemented.

Given the meetings of CEOs and politicians to advance the scheme politically, as well as all that must go into its actual implementation, there is simply too much activity to keep secret.

Ten dots to connect

Here are 10 developments in the plan to disappear Canada.

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3) Council of corporate power. The SPP initiative began in earnest back in 2002 with the Canadian Council of Chief Executives (formerly the BCNI), the most powerful corporate body in the country. It continues it leadership role, but does not promote the scheme just in its own name. It instead has helped create several supportive bodies that now help drive the agenda. Included in these are the North American Competitive Council (NACC), which includes CEOs of the largest North American corporations, and which institutionalizes the exclusively corporate nature of the agreement. The NACC is the only advisory group to the three NAFTA/SPP governments.

4) Secretive summit. The NACC at least is public. But much of what happens in building the elite consensus for deep integration is done in absolute secrecy or very privately, away from the prying eyes of the media. The most secretive of these was held last year from Sept. 12 to 14, in Banff Springs. As The Tyee reported, the gathering was sponsored by something called the North American Forum* and it was attended by some of the most powerful members of the North American ruling elite.

Attendees, according to a leaked list that could not be confirmed, included Donald Rumsfeld, George Schultz (former U.S. Secretary of State), General Rick Hillier, Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor and Minister of Public Safety Stockwell Day. The media was not informed of the meeting and it was first revealed by the weekly Banff Crag & Canyon.

Stockwell Day refused to even confirm he was there, but said that even if he was, it was a "private" meeting that he would not comment on. There is no better indication that these meetings, and the SPP itself, constitute a parallel governing structure -- unaccountable to any democratic institution or the public.

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6) Bye, bye Canadian dollar? David Dodge, the head of the Bank of Canada, told a Chicago audience that a single currency for North America "is possible." That would see a big chunk of Canadian sovereignty and the ability to guide the economy through monetary policy go out the window. It's not the first time Dodge has mused about abandoning the Canadian dollar - or deep integration.

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10) The next SPP summit. The third leaders summit on the SPP will take place this August 21-22nd in Montebello, Quebec, not far from Ottawa. By the time it does many more Canadian will be aware of it.

Part of the reason that news of the SPP/deep integration issue is finally seeing the light of day is that opposition is growing and groups fighting the SPP are having an impact. The Council of Canadians, the CLC and the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives held an SPP teach-in in Ottawa last month and many civil society groups are now taking deep integration to their members. Demonstrations are planned for the summit. The NDP continues to press the government on SPP secrecy and the Green Party's Elizabeth May has said deep integration will be a focus of the party's election platform.

It is hard to think of any other issue in modern Canadian history, especially one that will literally determine whether the country survives or not, that has taken so long to get public attention. I first wrote about it September, 2002.

By the time the SPP summit has come and gone and the fall political season begins, deep integration, the most treacherous plan for the country yet devised by Bay Street, will be increasingly exposed.

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2007/06/08/DeepIntegrate/

[whistle]

1. Finally Shreddies and great Canadian Ketsup in American Supermarkets

....uhmm and Red River Cereal and great clover honey, the white kind

[Berry Cool]

2. Ah, someone else loves Shreddies as much as I do!

No American cereal tastes quite like them, does it?

[whistle]

9. Nope and my youngest son and his two boys can't get enough

...Shreddies. I was in Canada last month and brought back three large boxes which I could barely get into my suitcase. They when through them in just one week!

[crappyjazz]

35. Shreddies are the bomb

no question

[annabanana]

3. Can we get their health care system?. . . .n/t

[JohnyCanuck]

4. No. The aim is to give Canada the US health care system. n/t

[BlueIris]

6. I was gonna post: it was the ahem, imposition of a privatized element

to Canada's healthcare system that sounded the death knell for Canada, at least ideologically. I believe several papers up there called the government out on that in '05, no?

[ForrestGump]

19. We have a system?

:shrug:


I learn something every day.

[Canuckistanian]

5. I'd like to know how they plan to sneak this by 99% of Canadians

WE all know that "North American Union" means being swallowed whole by the U.S.

There was already a distrust of American politicians even before the Chimp got in. Any talk of "unifying" anything is going to draw a VERY angry reaction from most Canadians.

And we'll do it our favorite way. By booting whoever is in power out on their ass, destroying their party in the process.

[hootinholler]

8. Oh please!

Maybe we can learn something from watching that down here, we don't seem to have a firm grasp on that concept.

-Hoot

[TrogL]

17. The same way fascism took hold in the States

Have a look at Canadian media ownership, then name five people who listen to the CBC.

[crappyjazz]

36. You can name me

I listen every day :)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. Don't feel alone. The US is going to disappear too. According to our Constitution,

foreign treaties override our Constitution and there will go our sovereignty.

[WinkyDink]

11. Treaties do NOT supercede the U.S. Constitution:

'As Article 2, Section 2, of the Constitution indicates, the president shares with the Senate the power to make treaties and appoint ambassadors. Specifically, the president is granted the authority, "by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur." Another provision, known as the "supremacy clause," in Article 6, makes treaties, along with the Constitution and acts of Congress, the "supreme Law of the land." '

Key words: "along with". And that's only AFTER "two thirds of the Senators present concur" with the treaty in the first place. IOW, a treaty is the same as any other law to be adhered to.

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:k3eZD0egwHYJ:www.answers.com/topic/united-states-constitution+foreign+treaties+u.s.+constitution&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

[pampango]

31. You make it sound like Mexico is going to take over the US.

After they conquer us, will they go after Canada or is it too cold there for Mexicans? Perhaps a better strategy for the Mexican imperialists, is to wait for us to merge with Canada (per the O/P) then take us over, getting Canada as a bonus.

Or are there some other foreigners out there that are planning to take over the US using treaties?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. I wish Canada would "disapper" Washington State. I could learn to say "eh".

And, I could even pretend to like ice hockey.

[regnaD kciN]

12. No way! Cascadia Forever!

:bounce:

[Matariki]

16. you type faster than me ;-)

see my profile ;-)

[Matariki]

15. Viva Cascadia!

[qdemn7]

27. I wish we could trade (northern) Illinois for Alberta

That way we get the oil, and they get the anti-gun loons in the Chicagoland area.

[crappyjazz]

37. Ice hockey?

:rofl:

Sorry, that always cracks me up :)

[buzzard]

13. I have been following this as well and am surprised that most Canadians are unaware of this,

if you have any good links aside from the ones mentioned I would love to see them I am trying to pass this information on to as many people as I can.

[JohnyCanuck]

29. Council of Canadians

Try http://www.canadians.org and http://www.canadians.org/DI/issues/guide/index.html and the links at the bottom of that page ( www.canadians.org is the website of the Council of Canadians of which Maude Barlow is Chairperson).

INTEGRATE THIS! A Citizen’s Guide to Fighting Deep Integration

Dear Concerned Citizen,

Deep integration between Canada and the United States is not a theory or a fear – it is a reality. For several years now, task forces, working groups, commissions, coordinating committees and cross-border consultations have been working to harmonize Canada-U.S. programs and procedures. This has led to an incremental and systematic harmonization of Canadian and American regulations and standards governing health, food safety, and all aspects of the environment.

This harmonization process has been central to the demands of the big-business community in Canada. They contend that the only way to secure trade across the border and continued access to the U.S. market is to merge trade and border policies, including all regulatory, environmental and inspection systems. The Canadian Council of Chief Executives (CCCE), an organization that lobbies the government on behalf of Canada’s largest corporations, argues that because the economies of the two countries are now so integrated, our domestic laws are essentially redundant.

Those pushing for deep integration are looking at a common customs union, as well as harmonizing existing policies, standards and regulations to a common norm. Combined with joint Canada-U.S. inspection and security procedures, this would essentially wipe out the Canada-U.S. border. This push will lead to the privatization of our health care system, the loss of control of our resources and further compromises in trade deals like what we saw with the softwood lumber dispute.

But there is hope. We can work together to demand that the Canadian government stop taking its cues from big business and put a moratorium on deep integration initiatives.

http://www.canadians.org/DI/issues/guide/index.html

[Matariki]

14. Remember the news that Cheney visited the oil fields in Alberta?

Because that's all you need to know.

If only Canada had Mexicans instead of oil, you'd be safe from the evil machinations of Darth Cheney and pals...

on edit: Alberta has the largest oil reserves outside of Saudi Arabia.

http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2005/08/cheeney_to_boos.html

[and-justice-for-all]

18. its called the NAU

Lou Dobbs talks about it quite a bit. see www.AUGUSTREVIEW.com

[Jim Warren]

20. Just grand

Can't wait to see the new corporate constitution

[and-justice-for-all]

23. Oh thats just a tiny sliver....

...Bush has already signed the agreement, unbenounced to Congress and the Citizens. Once the NAU is fully established, we will have one currency called the Amero.

Since the EU and African Union is established, soon will come the NAU and then the Asian Union. The world will literally be divided into 4 sections and this is planned to last for a duration; the ultimate agenda begin that of a '1 WORLD GOVRNMENT'.

If things do not change soon, we are all even more fucked then we already are.

watch www.zeitgeistthemovie.com

[Jim Warren]

25. Some years ago

maybe around '89 or '90, I remember poppy bush giving a speech and I first heard him say something about the NEW WORLD ORDER. I thought wtf is that? NWO. Sounds Orwellian.
bushco has had a plan and it looks they are more or less right on schedule.

[and-justice-for-all]

26. Watch ZEITGEIST..

..and tell me how you feel afterwords. I am horrified.

[pampango]

30. If it is better to have one federal government for our 50 states

than to have 50 sovereign countries, why is the prospect of eventual common government with other people on our continent such a horrible prospect?

If your opposition is based on the fact that those with power currently would rig the common structure to hurt common people rather than help them, then I share your reservations. If you believe that a common government is to be opposed for reasons of "national sovereignty" then we disagree. If the time comes, and it is a big if, that a common governmental structure for our continent would benefit its citizens economically, environmentally, and with respect to their freedom, then I would be for it.

[and-justice-for-all]

32. Yes,

This line: "If your opposition is based on the fact that those with power currently would rig the common structure to hurt common people rather than help them, then I share your reservations."

I do not think that those who are engaging this agenda care at all for the common people, at least the perception based on current events shows me this.

Ok, a little SciFi...There is only 2 outcomes to a One World Government; 1) the Star Trek outcome, where the Planet is a One World Government however it all functions together as one, no one is left behind but 2) the other is a 1984 scenario, a scenario that is not pleasant at all. The world in which V lives is that kind of place...

I guess what makes it scary is the fact there is no honesty about it, there is no honesty in politics as it is. They have to lie and sneak around. To me, thats not a peoples Government, thats a theives guild.

[MisterHowdy]

33. Agreed. BUT

The reality is, that this would hurt people.
This would hurt Canada.
Assuming, of course, the current social policies that exist in the US are the rule.

The US government shits on its Citizens a "Takeover" of Canada would mean
that they would shit on Canadians too.

That sucks
In a perfect world if there was a true "for the people" government that wanted to merge
countries I would love it and be all for it.

But this, at this point, does not benefit people, only those in charge.

If this ever happened I would leave the Country.

[qdemn7]

21. When both the Left and the Right are against something

As in the North American Union, then you know something is really, really REALLY rotten in Denmark.

[Skidmore]

24. I don't know. We have those on this board who I think are very vocal

in their descrying of borders and sovereignty of nations.

I agree. There is a huge stench eminating from parts east and slightly to the north of my neck of the woods. We need to oust the whole bunch in DC on both sides of the aisle and start anew.

[krispos42]

22. New American flag: 50 stars and 13 maple leaves

If the Canadians ask nicely, we'll let them keep the maple leaves red

:rofl:

[qdemn7]

28. Hypothetical flag of the NAU

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Flag_of_the_North_American_Union.svg

Only 3 big stars.

[crappyjazz]

38. But what about the Beaver?

that would be a huge concern ... and the metric system? and loonies? coloured money? oh my god, what about timmies?

this would only be bad bad bad for Canadians

[krispos42]

39. Well, It would be another Chimpy War of Conquest

We'd make hats out of the beavers, everything in the US is dual-labeled English and Metric and we're putting some color in our money now. As to the 'timmies', by which I assume you mean something called "Tim Hortons" fast-food restraunts... well, you've already beaten McDonald's and have signed on with Wendy's, which is a Republican doner or so I heard, so you should be just fine.

However, your wonderful health care system? That's gotta go. So sorry, but independent studies by the non-partisan and totally independent Health Insurance Corporation Study Organization, which is funded 100% by American health-insurance corporations, has proven conclusively that universal single-payer heath care is mathmatically impossible, just like the 4-minute mile. Can't be done, sorry.

:-)

[Matariki]

34. CANADA HAS OIL.