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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 07:17 AM
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"NBC courts Jon Stewart". . feel the power of the DARK side, Jon...
http://www.newsday.com/search/ny-hscovside5260610jun19,0,7628509.story

No, Jon! Don't do it! Jack Welch will own you. GE Defense contracts will still your voice of reason!

Aa-a-r-r-r-rg-g-gh!
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 07:36 AM
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1. It's a big industry trick.
NBC or any other large network has no use for Jon Stewart, but they feel his sting -- even from as far away as Comedy Central. They cannot compete with The Daily Show, nor do they want to.

So, what's the solution? Same solution to the electric car when it was an unpopular notion with the Big Three: buy it and bury it.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 07:40 AM
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2. Olbermann seems to be doing pretty well on MSNBC
Heck, he may have single-handedly saved the whole network. I've even seen them promoting Keith...

I would think Stewart is smart enough to get something in his contract that will allow him to create the show that he wants.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 07:42 AM
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3. We'll see.
I worry ...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:13 AM
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4. Olbermann didn't really jump off the curb till AFTER 2004, then Schiavo and Katrina.
Edited on Tue Jun-19-07 08:13 AM by blm
Before that he rarely took the tough shots at Bush and WH and nowhere near the ferocity he directs regularly at Bush and his WH the last two years.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:22 AM
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7. I thought Politically Incorrect became much weaker when it left Comedy Central
and went to--what was it?--ABC.

IMO, anyway.

I'd love to see Jon get a wider audience, but what value is there in gaining the world while losing one's soul in the process?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 01:55 PM
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13. Couldn't agree more. Plus, if it had remained on Comedy Central
Maher's comments after 9/11 wouldn't have gotten nearly as much negative attention, and the show might still exist.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 02:30 PM
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15. KO still has to pander to the Corp. producer in those crappy
segments (in the second 1/2 hour) that supposedly create greater appeal. If he were allowed greater control over the programming, the show would be 5 times better IMHO.
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:16 AM
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5. Doesn't NBC Universal own Comedy Central?
IE doesn't he in effect already work for them in a way? Or are we just talking abotu moving off standard cable onto network?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:20 AM
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6. No, Redstone does
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:24 AM
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8. Ah gotcha. National Amusements.
I don't know why I thought they were aligned with NBC rather than CBS. Ah well. Just goes to remind me that there are like 5 companies controlling all our media these days.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 03:32 PM
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21. They certainly don't want him to take over for Dave when HE retires
which is coming soon I would suspect.

STewart has to be on the short list for any job but doesn't he want to move to 12:30? or wait for Dave's spot?
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:25 AM
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9. Remember what happened to Bill Maher
He was censured and when he didn't like it he was cut off.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:27 AM
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10. Jon Stewart is different than Maher, he really isnt that controversial
You wouldnt hear Jon Stewart saying what Bill Maher said that got him fired (though what he said was true).
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:45 AM
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26. What Bill Maher said wasn't that controversial
People had their knives out for him because he was a big component in people supporting Clinton thru the whole impeachment circus. If you recall, there wasn't initially all that much outrage against Maher---it took a couple of weeks between the time he said the terrorists were physically brave (and he qualified the hell out of the statement saying how evil they were) and the time the outrage peaked and drove him off the air.

It was orchestrated outrage.

That tells me it was payback. They just used 9/11 for cover. He was the last victim of the Clinton wars.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 08:43 AM
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11. Bring him over to the dark side and cancel him
Don't do it Jon
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 01:53 PM
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12. that's my concern. n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 03:34 PM
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22. I am pretty sure that Jon and Brian Williams are buddies
I have gotten that sense from Jon's spccial on autism and the big giant head thing they are doing now on the Daily Show. I wouldn't be surprised if this involves Brian Williams in some way.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 02:26 PM
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14. ain't gonna happen. he would lose creative control. nt
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 02:33 PM
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16. If they offered him a development deal, I bet he'd go. Who'd blame him?
He's not a political pundit. He's a comedian.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 03:15 PM
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19. True, but why give up a show that he can run to do a show that he has to answer to someone?
but then again money and fame do crazy things to people.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 02:34 PM
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17. That's it Stewart, give in to your hate, boy! Feel the hate flowing through you!
Soon you will know the power of the Dark Side of the Force. But first I want you to make me 30 copies of this report and bring me some coffee. Oh and get yourself a donut if you'd like.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:36 AM
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24. "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" (English translation: "Do not want")
Do you supposed that's what's up with the big giant Brian Williams head?
.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 02:36 PM
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18. God I hope not... I would miss my fake news!
There's no way I could watch the Daily Show with anyone else hosting. Sure, correspondents have come and gone (Lewis Black, Rob Corddry, Stephen Colbert, Samantha Bee, and so on), but to watch the Daily Show with another host would just be fucking weird.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 03:25 PM
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20. They couldn't handle Jon.
In other news..nbc is replacing Leno with O'brien?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:29 AM
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23. Do they still show The Daily Show on CNN (or maybe it's CNN/International)?
I think they show (or showed) it once or twice a day on one of those? :shrug:

I've never caught it there though.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:38 AM
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25. Stewart's scheduled to leave in 2009 anyway. Dennis Miller's being groomed to replace him.
Gotcha.

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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:52 AM
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27. One of the things that makes The Daily Show work is the audience reaction
Stewart tells a joke and the audience laughs and claps. Unless he gets a live audience if he goes to NBC...it'll seem really dry and, well corny if there's no one there to react.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-20-07 12:57 AM
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28. Well, they could compromise and just use a laugh track.
Believe me, that always gives a producer better control over how well a show goes.
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