Barack really needs to get out there and tell everyone he didn't

[napi21]

attend a madrassa. I was listening to WJ this AM, and there were several Pub callers who said "Why would you ever consider voting forsomeone who attended a madrassa as a child?"

Unfortunately no one called to explain that even FOX retracted that story!

I'mso afraid this BS is going to turn into the same thing for Barack asthe swift boaters did to Karey.

I tried to call, but the line was consistently busy.

[KharmaTrain]

1. And This Would Accomplish?

They'd just come up with some other lie to slime him with. And, blame Hillary for starting it.

Paying attention to this falicy just gives it more legs. One would hope the vast majority who've heard this sliming are smarter and wiser. The only ones still astroturfing this crap are the racists, biggots and war mongers...and be prepared, there's gonna be more of this shit coming if we let ourselves get caught up playing the right wing's "gotcha" game.

[napi21]

5. Ahh, I disagree with you. That's what Kerry thought, and look what happened there!

If there is enough coverage about that story being a lie, hnobody will have enough b's to call a TW show and resay it!

That's my biggest concernwith Barack...he has been through some state elections, but the viciousness of a Presidential campaign is much different, and he's just not mean or angry enough to deal with it.

[KharmaTrain]

11. It's A True "Tar Baby"

Once this type of slime attack sticks to you, there's no easy way to get it off.

I can't see how this story can be more debunked. It's been exposed at a right wing slime attack and if anyone still wants to spread it or believe it, then they are out to do further damage. Trying to refute it gives them a chance to both keep the story alive and then add even more slime.

I agree with you about my Junior Senator being ready for the "big time", but not with as much conviction as I had a few months ago. He has come up in a pretty rough and tumble political world in Chicago, but he was never high profile in this state...almost no one knew of him until his Senate run in '04. I easily recall thinking about how his name would be abused or a liability when he announced for the Senate that year and it was just a matter of time before someone tried to play that card.

The one good thing Senator Obama does have are some very screwd political and media types in his corner. I honestly believe this slime has backfired and what we're seeing is one last vain attempt to use it to rally the shrinking right wing base. They're the ones using it to generate all types of fear...fears that only fester in the Repugnican world, not ours.

Cheers...

:toast:

[aaronbees]

2. He has

Obama on Wednesday called the reports "scurrilous," and his communications director e-mailed reporters a lengthy memo attempting to set the record straight.

"I think they recognize that the notion that me going to school in Indonesia for two years at a public school there at the age of 7 and 8 is probably not going to be endangering in some way the people of America," Obama said on NBC's "Today" show.

Source: http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=politics&id=4963360



How many times does he have to repeat it? The people who call into those shows are looking for an excuse to slam him. If not that, it would be some other lie they adopt as a pet belief.

[napi21]

6. Aparently more than he has! The other thing I've heard, but only once,

is that little children don't attend madrassas. They are for high school age kids. If that's true, it would have been impossible forANY of this fairy tale to be true. That's the kind of info that has to get out!

[aaronbees]

7. Perhaps, but he could deny it until the end of time...

and there will always be a subset of freaks who believe this. The damage is already done; many people don't care about facts and never will. :(

[Hav]

9. .

That could be true. I remember a story a DUer told about not being able to persuade his neighbor that Mark Foley was a Repub because Fox used to pretend that Foley is a Dem.
It was on Fox so it must be true and any evidence this DUer wanted to provide would be just internet propaganda. It's scary how dumb some people are.

[Hav]

3. .

Was that "Karey" thing intentional?

Anyway, if that is the best the Repubs have against Obama, then it's good that they are using their ammo that early. I hope that no one cares about it in 2 years should he win the Primaries.
Those idiots who still call in to repeat that lie must be mostly racist Repubs who would have never voted for any Dem anyways. Further, even if it were true, how can one blame someone for the school he was sent to as a little kid? It wouldn't have been him to make that choice. Do these fucking idiots really believe that Obama is a terrorist or a radical Muslim?
I guess they are just racist and stupid assholes. Fuck them. I'd pay to see their faces if Clinton or Obama win in 2008.

[Cass]

4. This is a great example of the damage shoddy "journalism" and propaganda

peddling can do. Add another untruth to the pile of lies Faux News viewers believe. Even though they issued a 'retraction' their viewers still believe the initial false reports.

I know someone who still, to this day, believes WMDs from Iraq were sent to Syria. Doesn't matter that Bush himself said there were no WMDs, this person heard it on Faux News so it must be true. Faux News is very skillful in their use of propaganda and brainwashing, I'll give them that.

Its astounding to me that Faux News is treated as a legitimate news source. You would think there would be a list of standards a broadcast channel would have to meet in order to call themselves a "news" channel.

[napi21]

8. That's my point exactly! I'm not sure how to deal with FOX.

Olberman is trying, but I'm afraid even though his "Worst person"segment is true,anypossible FOX viewers will view it as a comedy skit.

I can only hope that hammering the real storyout on the MSM will influence enough people that the idiot FOXers won't matter!

[Cass]

12. Yeah, I wonder how to deal with Faux, too. But I have to keep reminding myself that

their staunch delusional viewers are a small minority of the populace. The November elections and Bush's continually dwindling approval numbers indicate this.

In John Dean's latest book, Conservatives Without Conscience, he made a comment that really stuck in my mind (paraphrasing here)- he said that we can't change these people and their whacko beliefs but we have to politically marginalize them. After reading what Mr. Dean had to say, I realized that trying to talk to the 29 percenters about politics was an exercise in futility. They are not going to change their minds even when the truth hits them upside the head. They really are a fringe group of fanatics who won't listen to reason.

CNN's Anderson Cooper did a great job debunking the madrassa thing and they had some kick ass internet ads about it, too. He really left Faux with egg all over their faces. Hopefully CNN will continue to do this as the campaign season goes on. Continually exposing their phony reporting will hopefully marginalize Faux to some degree.

[unpossibles]

10. those same people still think that evolution and climate change are lies

and that Saddam attacked the US on 9/11. They obviously don't care for facts.