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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:13 PM
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"Darby" soldier who broke Abu-Garib story on 60mins NOW-
very telling-

Even the local VFW rep (in his hometown) thought his actions were those of a"traitor"


:nuke:

And Rumsfeld outed him!
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:16 PM
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1. he and his wife have had to leave their home, move
to another place, and does not want people to know where this is.

Even members of his own family believe what he "did" is wrong....


What is wrong with us???
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:18 PM
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2. A disturbingly high percentage of "us" think Saddam brought about 9/11.
So defending dirty Arabs being treated as they richly deserve, for being dirty Arabs, and getting good Americans in trouble for it, deserves nothing but scorn according to "our" prejudices.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:25 PM
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7. would "we"
(the 'us' who believe Saddam did 9/11, and feel the abuse of prisoners is "just deserts") also be supporting keeping Gitmo open?

And support 'rendition'???

This soldier did the absolute right thing, and instead of being honored, there are those who hate him.

Jeez, I can't accept that 'we' have become such arrogant ugly people.

:shrug:

peace,
blu
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 09:26 PM
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20. yeah, those dirty ay-rabs are subhuman anyway.
just like the jews in 1940s germany. that's how any army gets it's soldiers to commit some of the horrors that war produces . . . make the enemy subhuman.

ellen fl
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:19 PM
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3. And Anderson Cooper is an arrogant gasbag. What a piece of shit.
Could he have talked down to that poor guy any more than he did.

And the head of the VFW from Darby's home town is confused, he's the traitor to the armed forces of this country. What an amoral arrogant bastard.

I knew, I JUST KNEW, I'd be mad if I watched that interview.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:27 PM
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8. I was very impressed
and humbled by the way Darby and his wife have handled this-
they have nothing but my respect and admiration-

Thanks for being willing to be outraged- we need to bear witness to this crap-

:hi:

blu
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:29 PM
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10. After all he's gone through he said he would do it again. People like him
not only impress me, they intimidate me. Why? Because they make it very plain and clear that we are not doing OUR part.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:48 PM
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16. .
:hug:

me too Acmavm-

bearing witness is a start.

blu
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:20 PM
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4. Moral conscience is a rare commodity
His town turned against him.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:28 PM
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9. pretty sad and
telling eh?

:hi:

blu
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:24 PM
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5. I consider "the local VFW guy" the traitor.
And he and his family should be dealt with in a manner in which he seems to advocate for Darby. This country is in trouble, because he ain't getting past his stupid, inbred roots, and many of us are getting sick of putting up with it.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:36 PM
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12. I consider the VFW guy
as someone who has a LOT to learn FROM Darby-

The man doesn't realize the harm he is doing by making a choice that doesn't "rock the boat"- but which lowers the level of honor for the entire military-

The "military" isn't exempt from having members who do bad things, but to demand that those who do wrong be protected and coddled, is almost as bad as the abuse itself!!-

bah!-


:hi:
blu

(my son called it the "camo-wall", like the "blue-wall" that sometimes insulates bad cops)
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:24 PM
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6. I just saw it and this Heroic man had to leave his home for fear of retribution
by other soldiers. This is horrible!!!!!!
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rooney Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:32 PM
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11. IMO This man, Darby, lied just like all of the people who
have been touched by Rumsfield. We know that Rummy knew about the torture at that time and it was just an easy way out for him. Darby and his wife are probably glad to receive the big bribe every month to tell his lies and protect the Bushies.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:40 PM
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14. no, Darby only lied
when he said he'd recieved the "pictures" of abuse annonomusly- and asked to pass them on-
He wanted to do it without being 'outed'- because he believed he would be targeted.

What 'bribe' money are you talking about???

:shrug:??
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:48 PM
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17. OMG! Dick!!! Is that YOU?!?!?!!!!
:rofl:
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:51 PM
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18. Please re-watch the segment. I think you may have missed...
... some salient points.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:40 PM
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13. As if the messenger is the issue in this story. nt
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:46 PM
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15. the messenger isn't the issue, but the fact that people - people
who not only should KNOW better, but people who are supposed to be supportive of doing morally 'right' things, consider him a traitor-

What happens to this man, MATTERS- He took a risk speaking out- the least that those of us who feel grateful for his willingness to go against the flow and speak out, to bring the crap that was happening there to light, owe him, is to be outraged by the treatment he has recieved as a result-

And to speak out about why telling the TRUTH is the honorable thing- especially when it is not only an "uncomfortable" truth, but a shameful one.

:shrug:

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-24-07 06:54 PM
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19. I agree. Isn't this western Maryland? nt
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