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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:36 PM
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Al Gore versus the NASCAR Dad.
This is not addressed to Al Gore, Nobel Peace Prize nominee, genius. Rather this is my comment to you, the NASCAR Dads, the guys who want a president who wouldn't turn up his nose at Milwaukee's Beast, or a good stiff snork of crank, the guys who hate queers and upitty women.

This is not just the America you voted for, but the whole damn world. How do you like it? You twenty percenters who still like Iraq, how many of your relatives are over there? Do you like Bush's trickle down economy now that you realize what is trickling down on you? Really into Supreme Court justices that are not crazy eyed or a candidate for The Sopranos? Still hate that Death Tax For Billionaires? Still Whipped up about baseball steroids, snowflake babies, queer spouses, Bill Clinton's sex with an adult female aide? Still lining up to battle any sort of abortion for any reason at all?

Still driving a vehicle that get's under 18mpg city? Still wanting folks like Phill Kline to read your daughter's Planned Parenthood records? Still think giving up Habeas Corpus makes us safer?

Well here's a wake up call. The climate is in trouble, possibly big, planet killing trouble if we don't act. Al Gore has seen this, and gone the distance to show the rest of us where we stand, while we still have solid ground to stand on.

Al Gore has been one of America's great statesmen and visionaries. You have treated him abysmally, because you wanted a president like you.
So, now that you have a president like you, and you see the America your vote bought for Exxon, Big Pharma, and the rising tide that lifted all yachts, are you still happy with it?

And if you are, will you take your .44 mag and blow your brains out, so the rest of us can vote in someone who isn't like you?


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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:38 PM
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1. While I never cared for "red rural culture", the events that have...
Edited on Sat Feb-03-07 04:47 PM by AX10
transpired under his watch habe turned off to it, 99% of it anyways. It's more than enough to make me :puke:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:41 PM
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3. It's not 'red state' culture - it's 'red rural' culture and it's in every state.
But, in response to the OP, I'd point out to these yahoos that Bush ISN'T like them - he has millions of dollars, doesn't have to worry about working to pay the bills, doesn't have to worry about health care costs or retirement packages.

Bush is an elitist - more so than Gore ever was or will be.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:39 PM
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2. Oh oh....
now you've gone and pissed off the NASCAR fans. :popcorn:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:42 PM
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4. My son loves NASCAR and hates Bush.
:hi:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:54 PM
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8. See my comment regarding NASCAR fans versus
Nascar dads...

Taking umbridge over the term NASCAR Dad is ok by my book, but smack the folks who framed it. I use it as a term of art, not a comment on NASCAR.

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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:59 PM
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11. No one hates the lowland Scots
more than the highland Scots.
But all the Scots beat on anyone who points this out.

This is similar.

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:12 PM
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22. Nothing like a little flame bait in the afternoon, eh?
:hi:
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:45 PM
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5. Boy do you have NASCAR Dads pegged wrong
Edited on Sat Feb-03-07 04:49 PM by DainBramaged
Your generalizations are just absurd. I am a NASCAR Dad and former racing crew chief. I don't own a gun, and I don't snort crank. I have a couple of old gay friends, And so many of my friends and families who still love racing stopped drinking years ago I forgot to ask the what being drunk is all about.

Get your stupid head out of your own bigoted ass and learn that NASCAR tracks and fans are all over this country and aren't stereotypical as you hope they are. Then maybe you'll learn that we're no different than you, except for the fact that we went to see an Inconvenient Truth or own it.

Spelling edit (I am so pissed I forgot to spell check)

Oh and no profile? I love hit and run threads too. I carry mine so everyone can see them, why not you?
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:52 PM
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6. Let me be more specific.
NASCAR Fan is a person like you.

NASCAR Dad is a political term of art. Many NASCAR dads don't watch the races at tracks or participate in any race activity besides watching wrecks on TV. They are what is left on the GOP's plate when they have cleft off all those who don't approve of anything Rush Limbaugh said reflexively.

The term NASCAR dad is used to describe Karl Rove's target audience. I am sorry they chose that term, but you need to do more than snark at me to change that frame.

BTW, as a younger fellow, I was on my brother in law's Formula 1 crew from time to time.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:53 PM
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7. My ass
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:55 PM
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9. Well said
Have another beer.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 04:59 PM
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10. You are simply clueless, your stereotype disappeared in the 80's
And I don't drink. So once again, you're so wrong I sent you thread as a link to most of my friends, some who raced with me 35 years ago when racers outnumbered fans. You wannabe critics just try to attract attention by smearing what you know least about.

Once again,

My ass.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:08 PM
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13. I love Drag Racing.
Does that make me a bad person? ;-)
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:11 PM
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15. Go to my Journal, I was a pro for six years
I miss he sport, but I am much more of a NASCAR fan now since the rules have become so "little guy" prohibitive in drag racing. It's all about the show now, nothing more.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:02 PM
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19. We must reminisce...
About the old days at Island Dragway sometime. Nick Ritter is a good friend of mine.

I was there, as a youngster, when Garlits set the record. That's how long ago I started with my interest in it.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:07 PM
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20. I live an hour from Island now
Saturday night testing at Island, Sunday at Raceway park if we weren't going to a points meet or National event. And I lived in bergen County then in Franklin Lakes, so it was a drive. One of my best friends runs the service department at the Chevy dealer in town, and he was National A/S champion of years. At least once a week we go back in time and talk about "back in the day" with the kids who work there stopped in their tracks listening.

We had so much fun but the work was brutal. And we didn't street race, so we survived on winnings some weeks.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:11 PM
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21. I am remembering so many of the old guys...
Buster Jackson, Al Brown(a true pioneer and innovator), Frank Iaconio in the old days, Marty Keegan...so many of them, out there, rolling their own and winning.

Simply wonderful times.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 06:17 PM
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23. We were friends with Frankie, long before his Pro Stock days
Edited on Sat Feb-03-07 06:25 PM by DainBramaged
My second partner, John who owned the SS/EA Vette had him build a motor in '73 for him. It ran good, but manifold technology was still behind the times. By '76 when plastic manifolds and lock-up conveertors gained acceptance, we were going in the 11.30's and winning the Springnationals in Ohio.

http://public.fotki.com/archivist57/frank_iaconio_and/
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:12 PM
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16. No, as Democrats
we are allowed to love anything in drag.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:10 PM
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14. Ok
Thanks for all the ass, I am almost done chewing on it.

Your persistent inability to read for content and substitute ad hominum is tedious. Are any of your friends better at it than you?

Your dismissal of my attempt to explain my terms was, well, less than sophomoric. Less like an ass man than an ass-boy.

Explain why I should give a rat's ass about your being offended when your very own nick maligns those with brain injury or stroke?

As someone who has brain damage from a stroke, I find your nick just a wee bit offensive.

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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:13 PM
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17. I had a brain tumor removed on AUGUST 29, 2000, a big one
So I can call myself what I choose. BY THE WAY, with this I decided to just put you on ignore. If you can't share who you are with us, Iam not interested in conversing with you any longer.
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:01 PM
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12. k&r. Well said.
The equivolent of "I told you so!" (And how satisfying it is to finally get to say so without being branded a heretic, terrorist or a traitor.

Al Gore 2008 Bumper Stickers




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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-03-07 05:56 PM
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18. nascar dad is just as bad as soccer mom
but i do get what you are talking about. i`d call them crackers but i`ve been told that is`t pc either...
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