OFFICIAL THREAD #1 House Judiciary Committee Hearing with the no show Miers to start at 10AM

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

http://www.c-span.org cspan 3
http://judiciary.house.gov/

[rodeodance]

1. suggest you put Official thread in your subject line please

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

6. Done! I might not be able to keep up with it though, so if it has to be continued, someone please

help!

[rodeodance]

38. thanks, but I have to take off to work shortly myself

[rodeodance]

2. REC

[Norquist Nemesis]

3. Photographers lining up in front of the witness table

LOL!

[rodeodance]

4. lots of noice--people coming in

[pinto]

5. (aside) 1 too many 'w's in the link for C-SPAN.

:hi:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. I hope they put out an arrest warrant for her. At some point, they have to say enough is enough! nt

[MiniMe]

8. You beat me to it. : ) Corrected cspan3 link

Correct cspan3 link http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. I have to go down a little later to work and if you can help keep this up, I'd appreciate it. :)

:hi:

[MiniMe]

19. No problem.

:toast:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

45. Thank you!

:toast:

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. Sanchez is in Chair's seat, Conyers to her right

I thought Conyers was Chairing this one. :shrug:

[MiniMe]

10. I think it is a subcommittee, and Sanchez is the chair of that sub

[halobeam]

15. these links aren't working for me...

is it on yet?

[MiniMe]

20. Try this one for cspan3

http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[Norquist Nemesis]

26. Yes, thanks

Hope Sanchez keeps a hold on this. Cannon like to act like he's in charge and needs a few boinks with that gavel.

[Nimrod2005]

11. Is Capital Police there, standing by? Do we know where she lives?

[babylonsister]

12. You need to remove a 'w' in your c-span address. nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

18. Done! Darn fingers are being a bit trigger happy today! :)

[MiniMe]

14. Prez to hold presser to deflect attention from this hearing

Won't work on DU

[halobeam]

17. I noticed that lol

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

28. That was my first thought! eom

[Atman]

16. Is C-span 3 on the Wacky World Wide Web?

You might want to eliminate one of the w's in the URL...

.

[IChing]

23. link....better link to c-span 3 vs just c-span

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[Norquist Nemesis]

21. Let's see...Cannon, Keller, and some other guy showed up on the Con side

All with their jackets off, wearing white shirts. (White collar criminals! LOL!)

[MiniMe]

25. The cons showed up today? They must want to block an inherent comtempt charge

They didn't show up yesterday for the Sara Taylor hearing, and she could have used a few friends.

[MiniMe]

29. Hearing coming to order

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

22. C-span showing witness table with a sign saying Ms. Miers and no one there! eom

[jojo54]

24. So, if she doesn't show up and a warrant is issued,

then what next? Can B*shbot wrangle this into the shadows or something, or will the warrant MAKE her show up to the next hearing?

[IChing]

27. Any bets? I say he does but it is somehow guarded or watered down.

[IChing]

32. Here we go!!! Linda Sanchez will do it

[ThomWV]

30. The Gavel Falls

Let's get this show on the road.

[ThomWV]

39. Sanchez is laying out the history of other Senior Advisors comming to testify

[Norquist Nemesis]

31. *chunk chunk*, "...will now come to order"

Meiers skipped!

[whistle]

33. Rep Linda Sanchez now called meeting to order

...stating her deep disaapointment of Meyers being a "no show"

[southerncrone]

34. Darn! Why is all the good stuff on cspan3 now, & not 1 or 2!

Do a lot of people have access to cspan3?

[IChing]

35. Only on-line

[MiniMe]

36. 1 has to cover the house, 2 has to cover the senate

so that leaves 3 for anything else of interest. I wish more cable/dish providers had cspan3

[helderheid]

37. ..

[MiniMe]

40. I smell some inherent comtempt coming...

Go Linda

[Norquist Nemesis]

48. Not before Cannon speechifies about 'political theatre' and witch hunts

:puke:

Bet he throws in a couple of Valerie 'Flame' inconsistencies and Sandy 'Burglar' comments, too.

[Atman]

41. Sanchez is doing a good historical smack-down on Bushy and Miers.

woo hoo! Go get 'em.

.

[IChing]

49. Chris Cannon opposition statement

Saying everything the Dem. want is a fallacy

[IChing]

60. Cannon is a Z in this Venn diagram

[malaise]

42. Escalation

here comes the Constitutional crisis. Contempt. contempt, contempt!!
Arrest this woman!

[whistle]

43. Sanchez now summarizing all former testimonies by prior executives

...alowing witnesses to come forward, shows Bush executive forcing a constitutional crisis

[rodeodance]

44. ha ha -the WH has CHOSEN CONFRONTATION (like the war)

[helderheid]

46. I CANNOT STAND CANNON!

[jojo54]

47. DAMN, I can't listen to assholes like Cannon anymore!!!! eom

[rodeodance]

50. oh my gawd--Cannon will do his 'political ponyshow' AGAIN. showing his dummyness AGAIN

[whistle]

51. Chris Cannon now using the repuke talking points to show why this committee is totally unnecessary

....total bullshit as always

[whistle]

62. Cannon just called for "real... hard..... evidence" his emphasis

...but of course the White House continues to block all testimony and requests for documents

[blondeatlast]

52. Thanks for the thread, my C3 reception is woefully bad, so I'll stay tuned here. nt

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

53. Cannon whoring himself for the Shrub. We don't need Ms. Miers cooperation and

we don't need a showdown.

[halobeam]

54. what IS illegal is ignoring a subpeona, Cannon...

bottom line.. you can't spin your way around this.

[helderheid]

57. EXACTLY.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

58. and illegal to tell someone not to answer a subpoena too. Link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=1308870

[halobeam]

72. yep, thats what Conyers just said...

[Bluebear]

55. It's not "smoke and mirrors", Cannon. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?

[rodeodance]

68. Cannon wants to see documents that prove WH involved-ha ha What the

heck does he think this INVESTIGATION is for? what a dummy

[rodeodance]

74. ho ho--conyers is saying the same as I typed

[rodeodance]

56. I want to see pic of the EMPTY Miers seat on the front page of all media/newspapers!

I dream a lot

[MiniMe]

59. There is no such thing as Executive Priviledge, it is a coutesy

You don't have to have any evidence to overcome it. Oversight is your JOB

[halobeam]

agreed.. it is congress' DUTY

[WinkyDink]

61. And Bush has a Press conference in 10 minutes??

[IChing]

63. Cannon is a Z in this Venn diagram

[Norquist Nemesis]

64. ARGH!!! "unless we have evidence"

That's what the Hearings are for you #)(*%&)(#*^%@)(*&%^*()@#%^*(#@%^(@#*^%@)#(*^%@!!!!!!!!

Ever hear of DISCOVERY????? When the stonewalling stops, them MAYBE we'll get the evidence! :argh:

[sinkingfeeling]

65. Hey, Cannon, were you in Congress in 1996-1999? What would you call the bullsh*t

the GOP was doing ?

[WinkyDink]

76. No, no. THAT story must be saved for the "Republicans ensnared by The Madam" whining!

[Atman]

66. Cannon challenges the committee to produce EVIDENCE of any wrongdoing

Why do you think you're sitting on that committee, you fat stupid fuck? Because there is EVIDENCE OF WRONGDOING that you're supposed to be investigating. But you're not doing that, you're grandstanding, showboating and generally wasting America's time with your incredible spewage of lies and bullshit. Now Conyers is spanking him like a bad puppy.

.

[MiniMe]

67. Conyers nails Cannon. Says that Cannon had 6 myths in his statement

and he was still catching his breath from it

:rofl:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

69. Wouldn't this also be obstruction of justice? eom

[WinkyDink]

70. Conyers: "Still catching my breath after Cannon's 6 or more myths." BWAH!

[The Witch]

71. Conyers "Still catching my breath"

saying to Cannon, We're here to GET the evidence, you moron!

[G_Leo_Criley]

73. Conyers 'splains it to Cannon

You go John Conyers!

[whistle]

75. Conyers just bitch-slapped Connon on his six myths

"We are here to hear Harriet Meyers and her testimony!" :kick:

[rodeodance]

80. Cannon just embarrassed himself

[MiniMe]

77. Conyers coming in later worked out well in this case

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

78. It looks like they are going to hold her in contempt!!!!! eom

[halobeam]

79. yes it DOES

[malta blue]

82. It looks like it....I am surprised that she actually did not show. nt

[Bluebear]

83. It certainly does!

[whistle]

81. Sanchez just declared committee recess and is prepared to rule

...that Meyers is in Contempt of Congress and subpoena

[Norquist Nemesis]

84. Ruh-oh...there it is! Meiers can't claim EP

Not legally valid

YES!!!

[ThomWV]

85. Sanchez is going after her

Its sure looks that way

[WinkyDink]

86. Sanchez is slapping down this bogus E.P. argument but good!

Can't just claim it because Fred Fielding says you can!
Citing precedent cases. HAHAHAHA!!

"An astounding claim" without precedent.

[IChing]

95. I smell a contempt charge

HAHAHAHA!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

87. Interesting, not mentioned in yesterday's Senate hearing, the order of Exec Priviledge has

to come directly from Shrub and not his lawyer.

[halobeam]

Sanchez slaps that down, too

woohoo

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

94. She's doing great!!!! eom

[MiniMe]

93. I think they were trying to give ST a bit of a break. Miers deserves none.

She is a lawyer, she knows better. I'm really surprised, many said that if subpoened, she would show up. Could she lose her law license for this?

[Forkboy]

88. I love how they keep cutting to the table and empty chair for Miers.

LOL

[malta blue]

90. Nice...I am only listening to it....thanks

[rodeodance]

89. Interesting--saying the Pres needs to personally send a letter claiming executive

privledge. Not good enough for lawyer to send letter (for miers at that)

[alfredo]

91. My only thought is bush has talked to the partisan 5 on the

Supreme court and have their support for his contempt of the law.

[WinkyDink]

96. Did he even need to talk to them? They know the score.

[alfredo]

110. He had to make sure before moving against the congress.

Remember, Roberts testified that he would not overturn precedence, but then went to work to overturn precedence.

[whistle]

92. White House astounding claim that they are so above the law they can ignore

....formal congressional subpoena....Meyers is going to be hit by Contempt order

[Norquist Nemesis]

99. And DOJ is blatantly acting as WH attorney, not for the People n/t

[Forkboy]

97. ",,,goes beyond Richard Nixon."

[Bluebear]

98. "Goes even beyond Richard Nixon."

[WinkyDink]

101. That would be "the SPINNING Richard Nixon"!

[usregimechange]

100. Sounds like we are going to court and to criminal citations...

[Norquist Nemesis]

104. Citing cases one after the other and putting it in the record

:popcorn:

[G_Leo_Criley]

106. yes! This is incredible. n/t

[G_Leo_Criley]

114. "evidence indicates an abuse of power"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

102. I only wish they could rule on contempt before Shrub's presser is over! eom

[WinkyDink]

103. Could Bush BE any more obvious about trying to downplay this confrontation??

[IChing]

107. Sanchez is laying down the federal law and historical

rulings on executive privilege.
Miers is held in contempt.

[whistle]

105. So far five points are presented by Sanchez

[lala_rawraw]

108. I bet Miers was told she would be pardoned

[halobeam]

109. agreed

[IChing]

111. No doubt

All Republicans will be pardoned nation wide.

[Norquist Nemesis]

112. Yes, they promised to "take care of her"

How touching.

[blondeatlast]

118. Did she actually say that? Ick! nt

[blondeatlast]

113. No doubt. nt

[Bluebear]

117. Can they just spring her from jail if she is held in contempt?

[whistle]

115. Sanchez and the committee believe there has been government misconduct

...and as such all executive privilege is suspended, so they need to hear the testimony and abuse of power evidence

[usregimechange]

116. Sanchez: "Abuse of power"

[malaise]

122. Conyers - so moved

The battle lines are being drawn.

[JNelson6563]

119. Great thread DUers!

So nice to be able to stop in and get up to speed quickly and easily!

:toast:

Julie

[blondeatlast]

132. Kudos to our "play by play" annouincers! nt

[bdamomma]

139. yes, just got here myself you guys are marvelous!!!

[WinkyDink]

120. NO EP!

[MiniMe]

121. Now it is getting interesting

[WinkyDink]

124. 5 minutes now of Cannon Quisling Traitor.

[malaise]

125. Cooper is begging for Miers

ah fugg off.

[halobeam]

129. lol

[IChing]

123. Mr. cannon is a Z

[Norquist Nemesis]

126. Ugh! Now have to endure another five minutes of Cannon

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

Maybe it's time to make another pot of coffee.

[WinkyDink]

130. Oh, he's CONCERNED that Congress will end up looking impotent! Bwahahaha!

[IChing]

134. Sounds like a plan

His points are full of crap.

[Drum]

137. That's what I'm doing

:hi:

Sanchez nailed it very completely, and even got in references to Nixon, Rove, and "abuses of power by this administration." Hooray!

Cannon now advising the Congresspersons to keep their powder dry...making this contempt citation sound like a huge risk in case there is a court overturning any contempt by Miers et al.... What a tool!

[jojo54]

127. I move that thread #2 is started.

[Hepburn]

128. Well, here comes a ration of shit....Cannon is up in reply to Sanchez.

What a complete Repuke apologist. :puke:

[whistle]

131. Conyers just made a motion to hold Harriet Meyers in Contempt

...now Cannon is fumbling for the next 5 minutes....wow he just said that the courts will not uphold the subpoena

[MiniMe]

133. New Thread. Mods, please lock this one

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1312924&mesg_id=1312924

[Bluebear]

135. THREAD #2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=389

[whistle]

136. Going over to Thread #2

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1312924

[caseycoon]

140. ME TOO n/t

[usregimechange]

138. “The emperor…” “cannot tell private citizens to flaunt the law”

Some D from TN.