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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:07 PM
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Will Republican Women vote for Hillary?
One of the strongest reasons for female Hillary supporters is the fact that Hillary is a female. But I was also wondering if this gender appeal reflects upon all US females?

Hillary has adopted a more centrist image in an attempt to appear less partisan; and I believe that her female supporters will never leave her, but does anyone think that she will be able to win over the Female republican swing voter?

There are many reasons to dislike Hillary - her support of the Iraq war, her DLC positions, etc. But these reasons may possibly appeal to republican women if they haven't been brainwashed by Talk Radio.

Also, what if the GOP nominated a woman for VP, like Libby Dole, or Condoleeza - probably not Dole because of her husband's losing streak karma. Would independent woman leave Hillary for the GOP?

The Key to the 2008 election will be the Male Swing voter, but the GOP might try to minimize the defection of female voters (aka, security moms).
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:09 PM
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1. I doubt she would get much of any crossover vote, male or female, from the Republicans
And to be absolutly honest about it I know a lot of Democrats who have said they would not vote for her either. Maybe they would and maybe they wouldn't when it came down to the ballot box, but they sure don't like her now.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:52 PM
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11. There are moderate Republican women (believe it or not) who would vote for her.
Especially if she's up against a right-wing, conservative, fundamentalist.

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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:12 PM
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2. Honestly, that's a pretty piss-poor reason to vote for anyone
Voting for Hillary simply because she's a woman?

What if Condi were running, would we be asking if any Democratic women (or Democratic African-Americans for that matter) would vote for her simply because she's a black woman?

One would think that we would be voting for someone because we thought they were the best one to lead, not because of their sex, race, religion, etc.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:24 PM
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7. You know that voters are often single-issue voters
and quite superficial. Voters often vote for people of the same religion, race, state, etc. as their only reason - mostly because they feel comfortable and feel a familiarity with that person based on their lives and personal struggles and history. I would think that many career-minded/independent women are attracted to Hillary because of this and that they share in the struggle of business women everywhere, just as African-american men and woman or Southerns find comfort in Obama and Edwards because they've shared in their life struggles. For Obama, although mixed, has succeeded despite facing racism and being a minority in school, work, etc.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:16 PM
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3. Only if Hell freezes over first. (NT)
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:22 PM
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5. And probably not even then. nt
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:20 PM
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4. Unlikely
She has the lowest ability to garner any cross party appeal.

I worry that she would do especially poorly among independent and conservative leaning men.

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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:33 PM
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12. I agree that she has no chance with moderate men
or conservative men
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:23 PM
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6. (a) A much better reason to like Clinton is her 92% progressive voting record..
... (b) republican > woman.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:26 PM
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8. I know a lot of Democratic and unaffiliated voters who say they will
not vote for her... IN NEW JERSEY.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:46 PM
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9. Here in Georgia I know around a dozen Republicans who would vote for her
They respect her toughness. Many also have nostalgia for Clinton competence. I also know many Republicans who are already gloating because they say Americans would never vote for a black or a woman. I think many Republican wives will vote for Hillary to spite their husbands.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:34 PM
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13. Georgia Republicans actually liked Bill Clinton???
i find that hard to believe.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:03 PM
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17. hello!
that's the question - will DEM women vote for her! i sure won't...i don't trust her.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:05 PM
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18. I won't either. If Repug women vote for her, then I guess they'll get what they deserve. (nt)
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:52 PM
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10. The rich ones will. n/t

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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 09:35 PM
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14. Businessmen are often politically flexible
so there's a chance she can take the northern/wall street repubs - but she's got no chance with the Southern businessmen who don't trust her.
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LordJFT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:01 PM
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15. i bet the repuke candidate chooses someone like hutchison for vp
which would probably hurt hilarys chances with female voters
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:17 PM
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20. i was thinking the same thing - a female VP
like Libby Dole (but she's very old), Condi Rice (too much Iraq negativity).

Kay might not work if voters are sick of voting for Texans.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:02 PM
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16. Some would
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 10:13 PM
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19. I'm sorry but that's really shitty logic, and incredibly sexist.
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 10:43 PM by Veganistan
Do you think Republican men will vote for John Edwards because he's a man?

If Condi enters the race and wins the GOP nod, will Dem women (since we're obviously feeble minded care primarily about gender) vote for her based on her ownership of a uterus and ovaries?


:spank:
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:24 PM
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21. I said voters are often single-issue voters
and professional females may admire Hillary because they share a personal struggle to make it in a male dominated business world.

As I said earlier, its not just gender, race, or geography - but a shared sense of personal history and trust.

Southern men will find compatibility with Edwards; and shared regional concerns. For the same reason that southerners and mid-westerners distrusted a Northeast elite John Kerry, even though Kerry was correct on Iraq, the economy, etc. Yet most voters distrusted him, yet beyond logic trusted GW Bush.

With, Obama, even though he is mixed, he shares with other African-Americans a personal struggle overcoming racism in society, work, and life. They feel that he will care about issues concerning them.

For Hillary, female voters will expect her to carry about laws for greater Female equality and anti-discrimination, something similar to the family and medical leave act.

The GOP may try to neutralize female defections by having a female VP like Rice, Dole, or Kay Hutchinson. Thats a serious voting bloc since females outnumber men in the United States.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:28 PM
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23. Also, Republican women won't vote for Hillary
if they value party above gender; which is why I don't think Hillary can win Republican female voters. Hillary has been demonized by the Right, and I would be very surprised if GOP women voted for Hillary - because they have a lot of good reasons to vote against her.

But Hillary has moved closer to the center in her Senate career - which is why I think that she is trying to appeal to GOP women.

As for Edwards, I think southern GOP men will vote for him if he is the only Southerner in the race.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:25 PM
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22. This is what worries me about her as the Dem. candidate:
Support among:

Repub males: zero
Repub females: weak
Demo males: questionable
Demo females: pretty solid
Independents: ???

This just isn't a good-looking scenario.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 06:41 PM
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24. I don't think so much talk radio. women are not as into it as the men.
I think alot of Hillary's problems are not gender, poltical party, ect. For many it is the simple fact that Hillary is abrasive and many people on both sides simply do not like her.
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 02:37 PM
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25. thats true
but there are some female republicans out there - i don't know why. But they might be tired of voting for men all the time, they might be more open-minded about voting for a woman.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:19 PM
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26. some will
like my Mom always said, referring to the shitheel little red, red, red upstate NY town I grew up in - "Outside of the voting booth, I'm a Republican. Inside - nobody knows who I pull the lever for."
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:26 PM
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27. You must be joking!
I know a lot of Democratic women that won't vote for her!

:rofl:

Good try, though.



TC

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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-14-07 03:32 PM
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28. NOPE!
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