***CSPAN2 Reid vs McConnell - now! PART 2***

[ncrainbowgrrl]

first thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=139832&mesg_id=139832

[ncrainbowgrrl]

1. kick-for more eyes to see this

:kick:

[Sydnie]

2. thank you!!

:hug:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

9. glad to help out.

I'm listening too...

It's nice having others to listen with :hug:

[LSparkle]

3. Murray making some good points

No hearings, no accountability, no NOTHING for the past almost 4 years. It's ABOUT TIME to re-open the topic! Even Warner has admitted that discussion of re-authorization may be required.

[jannyk]

4. Murray - we ARE going to have the debate whether they like it or not

[LSK]

5. Murray saying she did not vote for the war

with so many questions unanswered.

Now 4 years later, its a civil war.

[LSparkle]

6. Somebody call Feingold! He ought to be in on this!

[Sydnie]

8. Tag team - Reid, Murray, Durbin, and Feingold

McCain and McConnell would be crying and Gregg would be looking for his glasses!

[LSparkle]

10. You betcha!

Smackdown! Let's get ready to RUMMMMBBBBBLLLLLLE!

[rodeodance]

41. CALLING RUSS!!

[jannyk]

7. Vote against surge 1st step in dmading a change in war

[Eurobabe]

11. oh boy, break out the popcorn, this is good she's chewing

up the GOP

[LSparkle]

12. Who's up after Murray? Is there a Thug in the on-deck circle?

[fooj]

13. I had to walk out of the room when McCain started his BS...

I was 5 seconds away from throwing a heavy object at my TV screen.

:grr:

[LSparkle]

14. Yeah, where'd he go? Somebody probably threw a bucket of water on him

To calm him down ...

:argh:

[ncrainbowgrrl]

16. wouldn't he melt?

:eyes:

[Beaverhausen]

15. So, is this a non-debate debate?

Just what exactly is this? I'll tell you one thing- I'm glad they are all speaking out finally!

[jannyk]

17. I don't understand how this

came about either - but I'm sooo glad it did!!

[LSparkle]

18. Time to have a debate -- and then a vote -- which Rethugs denied

It's about time after almost 4 years in this war.

[rodeodance]

19. Patty had great questions 4 years ago--now she wants them answered

[ncrainbowgrrl]

20. she's doing a really good job.

Passionate speech.

[Beaverhausen]

22. absolutely

:hi:

[LSparkle]

23. And she has credibility because she voted NO originally

I have new respect for her. She's stood up for vets before and is doing a great job today.

[jannyk]

21. calls on Repugs to end fillibuster n/t

[jannyk]

24. Chris Dodd now! No repugs???

[ncrainbowgrrl]

25. Can't wait to hear him...

Never knew much about him... and if he's running for pres... :shrug:

[Sydnie]

27. they are licking their wounds

Warner is trying so hard to save McCain's face, but he will have to put the smackdown on someone soon, either McCain or the Dems he has been working with.

Shit or get off the pot Warner, you're looking a little icky around your fishy gills.

[fooj]

42. I read in a post earlier today that it took over 20 minutes to get

through to Warner's office. The people there said he's getting a shitload of phone calls.

Good. I hope they get MORE than an earful!

[LSparkle]

26. All right -- Chris Dodd getting into it

Good orator ... Get hot, Dodd!

[jannyk]

28. Ooooh here he goes from 0-60 in 5 secs!!

[jannyk]

31. I'm in minority that thinks these res are just messages

...if we can't even agree to do that, what message does that send to people.

[90-percent]

74. 0-60 in five seconds?????

pshaw - a Top Fuel dragster can go from a standing start to 100 mph in .8 seconds.

LESS THAN ONE SECOND TO 100 MPH.

Thought all the nitro libs over here would want every one to know that.

-85% Jimmy

(85% nitro is maximum percentage of nitromethane currently allowed in NHRA Top Fuel and Fuel Funny Car)

[Sydnie]

29. Now WMD's and Saddam is gone

What's the mission now ... good question!

[LSparkle]

32. Same points Kennedy has made

No mission left! "Mission Accomplished"! If we have a NEW mission, get a NEW AUTHORIZATION!

Sounds like he wants a more substantial resolution ... Watch out, Rethugs -- you didn't want to vote on a non-binding res, but now you may get something WORSE (for your side)!!!

[jannyk]

34. Where is Ted?

[LSparkle]

35. He's probably heading over now (!)

[rodeodance]

45. come on teddy

[rodeodance]

John Kerry up now.

[rodeodance]

53. saying last 24 hrs has been a Profile in Polictics (speaking of Repugs)

[rodeodance]

55. says the Repugs are 'protecting the President" by NOT allowing Debate.

[rodeodance]

59. boy he he ever DISSING McCain!!!---GO Kerry

[Sydnie]

63. After their work together on the Vietnam POW's and MIA's

Kerry MUST know all his sore spots where the troops are concerned!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

87. There he goes... PASSION. Willing to slam McCain... as he's been treated himself.

I love this "Senator from Mass."

[Beaverhausen]

30. Wow!!! He is really passionate.

This is great. I hope others are watching/listening!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

33. Wow! This is Some speech...Color me impressed.

[Sydnie]

39. Me too

Hiding his light under a bushel no more! ;)

[POAS]

36. If these guys (the Repubs) were around

to advise Custer they'd cheer him on as he led his troops to slaughter.

Backing a suicide mission with no hope of success isn't in the best interests of the troops!

[fooj]

37. Dodd isn't messing with these rat bastards.

Dodd is PISSED!!!!

[rodeodance]

38. I agree with Dodd----do something meaningful---start to withdraw/RE-deplay

ment. get out@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

[jannyk]

40. If we continue to provide level of support

Iraqi's will never assume responsibility. We want to be counted - yes or no on this surge.

[jannyk]

43. Kerry!!!! Up now!!!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

50. Yay!

I heard "senator from mass" and knew that either way, we were in for a treat!

[Sydnie]

44. Kerry is in the CHAMBER NOW!

Get 'em John! Bring the rage this time!

[flpoljunkie]

58. Kerry: The Republicans are voting to protect the president, not the troops!

Kerry: "The best way to support the troops is by getting the policy right."

[Beaverhausen]

46. McCaskill is currently "Madame President" - LOVE IT!!!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

54. I just saw that! AWESOME! The only better presiding officer would have been Jim Webb!

:bounce:

[LSparkle]

47. Really railing against the "nouveau Rethugs" ...

Complimenting Warner and others who have been around a while but pummeling the new arrivals (probably the ones who came into Congress with Newtie).

[Sydnie]

48. Not a profile in courage - a profile in politics

to protect the President not the troops! Woot!

[jannyk]

49. Rather than protect troops the other side is doing

what it can to protect President!!

[LSparkle]

51. Kerry: they're protecting the PRESIDENT not the troops!

HAHAHAHAHAHAA!

Dead on!!!!

[flpoljunkie]

61. Kerry: "The best way to support the troops is by getting the policy right."

[fooj]

52. Unwilling to have a vote of conscience...

Go Johnny go!

[LSparkle]

56. Kerry "Unplugged"! I like him better as a non-candidate!

Speaking from his heart -- even going after CoCain!!!!!!

"Extraordinary leap of logic"!!!!!

:rofl:

Take that, McCain!

[jannyk]

60. Now he has nothing to fear!!

[fooj]

62. He's authentic. Especially when it concerns the military.

The thing that gets me is that they talk about their "good friend" senator so and so...

Hell- with friends like these, who needs enemies?

[malaise]

76. Kerry is destroying McCain

Go Dems.

[rodeodance]

90. McCain sure has lowered himself in the quest for power.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

84. same- this is NOT the same Kerry I remember on the stump...

This Kerry is amazing. I LOVE this John Kerry- the one from 1971.

[jannyk]

57. Calling McCain out on 'not supporting troops' statement

McCain himself has critized this admin time and again - not enough - but time and again - was that not supporting the troops?? You suppotrt the troops by getting policy RIGHT!!

[fooj]

67. Woot. Kerry smackdown!

No kidding. Get the policy RIGHT and make certain that the troops have what they NEED. They (Repubs) have failed miserably on both counts. It's all about protecting the "Boy King":mad:

[rodeodance]

68. McCain did DO a stupid sthing a bit ago-saying not support troops if

vote for the resolution.

[LSK]

80. damn, I got pulled away and missed most of it

[rodeodance]

64. talking of a group of soldiers who are going around the Hill and saying

there is a need for a change-----to start getting out.

[LSparkle]

65. "Wouldn't it get great if he'd come down and talk to us?"

The troops WANT THE POLICY TO CHANGE! Fat chance RatBastard will ever listen to the soldiers if he won't even listen to the CONGRESS!

[jannyk]

66. Now' the time for ssenate to register opp to escalation

if we go along with 'them' we are complicitous in the loss of those lives.

[Sydnie]

69. Mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake

GO John! I LOVE this man!

[LSparkle]

70. Members have to be accountable -- for what they haven't done

to change the policy. How can they face their constituents when they haven't even allowed a debate?

Are we supposed to just let the president go on making mistake after mistake one after the other ... ?????

GO GET 'EM, JOHN!!!

[porphyrian]

71. "...mistake, after mistake, after mistake..."

Yeah, I like this Kerry.

[jannyk]

72. time for holding Iraqi's accountable has come & passed

[LSparkle]

73. What is SUCCESS now?

Good fucking question -- hey, RatBastard, answer that one!

"Winning" IS NOT A STRATEGY!

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

75. Rolling!

"These troops deserve a policy that is worthy of their sacrifice!"

"Months and even years of promises that this is the moment we'll make a difference."

[ncrainbowgrrl]

79. Whoa- he's on a roll... go JFK!

[Sydnie]

77. Private rehab! That's not patriotisim - John is RIGHT!

[rodeodance]

78. The basic problem is that NO one has worked for a political solution!

[LSparkle]

81. Kerry's ON FIRE !

We had to have a PRIVATE fundraising effort to build a rehab facility!

Our soldiers are sacrificing for Iraqi politicians who WON'T EVEN MEET!

Ooh, this feels good (primal scream therapy).

[Sydnie]

85. I'm right there with you LSK!

Primal Scream is a great description of these last few hours!

[jannyk]

82. all our military superiority, our dedicated troops

cannot solve the Sunni Shia issues. Unacceptable for troops to die for Iraqi failures to compromise, for Iraqi militias. All with a US security blanket protecting them while a cancerous chaos grows by the day.

[rodeodance]

83. Kerry saying the IRaqi Military is jockying for positons right now!

[rodeodance]

86. mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake (Kerry went on and one)

[rodeodance]

88. Kery asking Bush: WHERE is the ROBUST diplomacy that is needed??

[jannyk]

91. Generals said no military solution - yet where is diplomacy?

Knocking Rice.

[LSparkle]

89. Kerry: What do we do now? Walk away w/no vote? I don't think so

This is a silly situation we're in -- have a vote and go back to the country! (Reminds me of Hagel's "go sell shoes" comment.)

[Beaverhausen]

92. This is amazing. How long can he go on? No notes, off the cuff...

I hope Kerry naysayers are watching.

[babylonsister]

Really. No one can dispute the intelligence at his fingertips. He's

rocking!

[Sydnie]

93. How much training do the terrorists get?

they're out there because they are motivated ... they have more motivation. Our guys, don't show up, aren't motivated!

Where's the terrorists 9 week training camps? They don't have them, they're motivated!

[ncrainbowgrrl]

94. Locking- time for thread #3

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