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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:20 PM
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Predict which of the 08 GOP candidates will be left standing
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 07:03 PM by Old Crusoe
after the Iowa caucus and the New Hampshire primary, roughly a year away.

Alphabetically, announced and possible GOP candidates include:

Sam Brownback
Newt Gingrich
Rudy Giuliani
Chuck Hagel
Mike Huckabee
Duncan Hunter
John McCain
Mitt Romney
Tom Tancredo
Tommy Thompson
--Other--

Frist is long gone and I've left out Pataki, who has "suspended" his campaign.

If I've left someone out, add that person in. // Duncan Hunter and Tommy Thompson added... thank you good posters.

If we have some sense of who is going to survive that first week of voting, we may get a notion what we're up against.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:22 PM
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1. 4 left standing
McCain, Hagel, Giuliani and Romney
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:26 PM
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5. Ok. John, Chuck, Rudy and Mitt. I could even see Giuliani squeaking by
in Iowa but Hagel upsetting the whole bunch in New Hampshire.

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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:41 PM
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20. If the other cons play it tough in the beginning, Giuliani will be toast before Iowa. nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:48 PM
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23. Hello, Katherine Brengle. Well, that would be ok with me. In a
recent thread on DU I posted my image of Rudy Giuliani: a predatory eel slithering its way along the garbage at the bottom of the Hudson River.

I think your observation is right on. If his opponents are as deft as they'll need to be, they'll dispatch with da mayor prior to the first vote in Iowa.

Thank you.
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UgoGore Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:06 PM
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29. Final 4
I agree with your pick, Rudy will do better than expected cause those on
the right will divide up the social conservatives (Christo-fascists)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:12 PM
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31. Your first post on DU. Welcome, UgoGore.
Thanks for joining in.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:50 AM
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34. Hi UgoGore!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:24 PM
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2. You forgot Savage!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:27 PM
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6. O god I hope he does make a run for it. Anything that would
disrupt the GOP primary apparatus is good for our side.

Savage is such a monster, isn't he?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:25 PM
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3. After NH and Iowa? Gingrich, Rudy, McCain, Huckabee
Gingrich will surprise by doing well in Iowa and then can survive NH and then he will try and make his stand in the south. That is where Huckabee will also try to make his stand in SC. After SC, I think that Rudy will be out of it and it will come down to McCain, Gingrich and Huckabee.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:29 PM
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7. That is a dramatic scenario. I'm aware that Huckabee could be
moving up on the outside, a "dark horse" candidate.

And I half expect him on a veep short list, too.

South Carolina is going to be a bloodbath for the GOP, from the early glimpse anyway.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:25 PM
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4. Bush/Pataki,, Jeb and George are spineless sycophants that will
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 06:25 PM by orpupilofnature57
work for the 1% and distort history enough so even Shrub's Legacy will be a storybook of heroism instead of the truth, a Misanthropes effect on civilization.
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mockmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:30 PM
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8. Tommy Thompson
Adding former Wisconsin Governor and the former Secretary of Health & Human Services, Tommy Thompson. I don't know who will survive they all make me throw up a little in my mouth.

Mike Huckabee might have enough folksy charm but still...:puke:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:35 PM
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13. mockmonkey, I did omit Thompson but now have amended the
list and he's on there. Thanks for that alert pick-up.

Agree with you that the entire field is puke-inducing. A miserable, macabre line-up of far-right loonies and thieves.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:31 PM
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9. Whichever it is, they'll seem so fresh and new to the public...
by comparison to ours, the mere mention of whom will no doubt cause convulsions in the viewing public by then, owing to constant, unrelenting, brain-damaging, mind-torturing repetition related burnout (a not-so-subtle devious Media supported Repugnantlican project).
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:31 PM
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10. You're forgetting Duncan Hunter
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 06:37 PM by ruggerson
he will play well with the "I'm ginna fuck yer wife and then go to church to pray against the fags today" crowd.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:32 PM
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11. Duncan Hunter. ruggerson, thank you for pointing it out --
I'll re-do the list by edit.

Thanks. Good catch.

And you're quite right -- he's a rightwing nutbag.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:36 PM
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14. I'm thinking, OC, that either him or Huckabee
is the dark horse who will be left standing with McCain, Giuliani and Romney.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:46 PM
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22. Extremely plausible. Sickening and disconcerting and frightening,
but extremely plausible.

I'm going to be watching to see how things spin out. I think the general advantage is to the Democratic ticket in 08, but the Republicans are always up to no good.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:34 PM
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12. I predict that it will not be McCain or Giuliani.
They might make it past Iowa and NH, but I don't see either of them ending up with the nomination.

McCain is simply too weak and obsequious. He's too obviously trying too desperately to pander.

As for Giuliani, take a look at this, and tell me the Rethugs are going to go for it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:36 PM
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16. I think you are definitely right on Giuliani. I think he might make it
past Iowa but New Hampshire could be a rude awakening for him. Especially if his opponents run the ads with info such as the one you linked there.

What's really going to be exciting is watching the Republicans gnaw the flesh from each other's bones.

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:40 PM
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19. Yep. Definitely looking forward to that.
:popcorn:
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:36 PM
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15. What happened to Condaleeza Rice and her shoes?
I thought she and her shoes were gonna run.

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:39 PM
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18. I think she runs if by long-shot chance Cheney steps down.
(and she's appointed to replace him)

Otherwise, I don't see her and her shoes slopping through pig farms across Iowa. And if she puts on boots or waders, she'll look like a high-voltage rich girl completely out of place on an Iowa farm, where people have real calluses on their hands and sweat on their brow.

She's a Chevron girl. Would Iowans buy a Chevron girl yapping about ethanol? I guess they could, if they're Republicans -- who knows if Republicans think at all?

But somehow it just seems as if she'd be wildly out of place.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:39 PM
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17. Hmmmm
I really think that Huckabee and Brownback will be in there.

Huckabee is a nice guy, or at least seems like a nice guy. He is churchy enough to pull in that demo, especially with his covenant marriage. I just don't think he will go down quickly, hell we had DUers talking about him like he might be OK after he was on the Daily Show. He comes off well.

Brownback. I know how he works and he has started. He will stay very conservative on social issues like abortion and gay marriage but he will moderate a LOT on other issues. He has started already by bucking Bush** on immigration and illegal aliens and on the war. Sam is very smart and he guesses the trend very early and will take advantage of it. He scares me, he really does. Oh, by the way, he lies and lies and lies and will use anyone to promote himself.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:44 PM
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21. MuseRider, hello to you, a good evening, and thank you for
a great insight on those two GOP possibilities.

I hear you on Brownback. He's frighteningly quick and generally sinister. I worry about him also.

I think he places second in Iowa (outside chance of first), and second or third in New Hampshire -- not enough to become an inevitable juggernaut, but more than enough to make someone like Giuliani sweat as the South Carolina primary rolls nearer.

As the primary season gets closer, I hope I read many posts from you about it. We realize you have many things to do, but we're political junkies and will appreciate anything you can feed us on Brownback.

I have a dark fear that he will arrive at the GOP convention in Minneapolis a national hero to the fundies, with enough delegates in his pocket to determine the nominee, and maybe become the veep on their ticket.

No Wes Craven movie is half as scary as that!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:49 PM
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24. OMG Old Crusoe!
I did not look closely at the OP so I did not realize this was yours. Hello back, good evening my friend. :hi: :hug:

I think I already told you about all I know. I don't like him, I know him personally. He has been in my house EGADS! Really, that is about it and I think that is probably enough. He worries me very much. Most important...never ever trust him.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:55 PM
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25. He's been in your house. Give me a moment to absorb that.
Could you not have arranged a stampede... no, nevermind. I think that would be illegal... JUST KIDDING, AGENT MIKE.

I will follow your advice of not trusting the man. He gives me the creeps. Did you read the ROLLING STONE piece about him not too far back? I may still have it if you would like to see it... I think I can send it to you PM if I can round it up.

Anyway it was not a flattering glimpse of Sam Brownback.

I believe a President Brownback would not only roll back Roe v. Wade, but would ordain that the Ten Commandments be posted in every uterus in the land.

A frightening individual.

:hi: :hug:
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:05 PM
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28. Our kids went to school together
and one of my sons had a party and Sam picked his kids up. In person he is very nice, he showed us around Washington because we bought a package deal at a school auction and wanted our kids to see and learn about it. That is part of the problem. Every one of us would like him until you know.....

Yes, I saved that Rolling Stone and sent the story out to everyone I knew. I saved it for just this purpose, to somehow side track his aspirations.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:10 PM
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30. Good strategy on the article. I'm afraid it may become something
a lot of us will have to do -- send email copies to everyone on earth to derail his candidacy.

Well. I could be wrong on Brownback. Maybe he will finish at the bottom of the heap in Iowa and drop out.

And then Kathleen Sebelius' star may rise if she is shortlisted for the Democratic vice presidential spot. I respected her father, John Gilligan, and wish someone like him were still around. There was a way-too-long stretch of GOP rule in Ohio. From afar, I really missed John Gilligan. Truth be told, his daughter is the one with the possibility of higher office.

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:21 PM
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32. I do NOT want to lose her.
She is far too moderate for me but this is Kansas and she works well with others.

Her father must have been a pretty good guy, I have heard that same sentiment from others.

For once I hope you and I are both wrong and he is out early. I will not be able to relax as long as he is in there and has a chance.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:58 PM
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33. I hear you. On all counts.
I'm willing to be wrong on Brownback. The sooner he leaves the arena of public policy, no matter at what level, the better.

:toast:
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:57 PM
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26. Tommy Thompson will go all the way because he's the Freeper's top STUD MUFFIN !!

Freeper Chick


Tommy Boy


Freeper chicks day dreaming of Tommy Boy

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:59 PM
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27. LOL! That's a riot, larissa. Yep. You can just SEE where he'd have 'em
screamin' in the streets!
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