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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:17 PM
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Permission Be Damned
Link to original: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020607S.shtml

Permission Be Damned
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Columnist

Tuesday 06 February 2007

I have always looked on disobedience toward the oppressive as the only way to use the miracle of having been born.

- Oriana Fallaci


Because I was unable to attend the anti-war demonstration in Washington, DC, last week, I made sure to watch the broadcast of it on C-SPAN. It was, from what I could see through the camera's eye, almost exactly like every other protest against this Iraq occupation that has taken place in the capital since October of 2002. It was loud and colorful, festooned with famous faces and eloquent voices, a showcase for the hundreds of thousands of souls who stand against this terrible conflict.

As the speakers made their statements, a friend and I wrote back and forth about the protest itself. My friend was irked that the protest itself was happening on a weekend, before an empty Capitol Building, and was not something that slowed or disrupted the business of this government. "Why not snarl up DC on a weekday and get some real news coverage?" she wrote. "Since when did civil disobedience care about permits?"

Her words, "civil disobedience," brought me up short. "This isn't civil disobedience," I replied. "This is a very polite, permission-granted protest. It is the essence of civil obedience. Don't get me wrong; I'm all for public protests. But to call this 'civil disobedience' is an insult to those who have actually put their asses on the line in real disobedience. How can it be disobedience when stuff like this is directly authorized by the Constitution?"

This exchange got me thinking about true civil disobedience: those courageous acts of conscience that defy laws and involve serious personal jeopardy. The essence of such acts, and the bravery required to commit them, can be defined simply. To commit civil disobedience, at bottom, is to act without permission.

This is no small thing in a society where respect for law, order and authority is ingrained in us almost from birth. To act without permission is to expose yourself, to step out from the crowd, to be singular. The protest last weekend, while vigorous and righteous, was as orderly and polite as a church luncheon. Even the speakers made sure to follow the rules.

There have been many great examples of civil disobedience in our history. Those who have chosen to commit these acts have changed the fabric of our society, and have often faced outrage, imprisonment and violence in the process. Some, like Dr. Martin Luther King, were murdered for their choices and their courage and their disobedience. As I pondered this, four names came to mind.

On September 8, 1980, eight activists, including Philip and Daniel Berrigan, illegally entered the General Electric Nuclear Missile Re-Entry Division in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania. This plant manufactured nose cones for Mark 12A warheads. The protesters, who became known as the "Plowshares Eight," hammered on two nose cones, poured blood on various documents, and were ultimately arrested and charged with more than ten felony and misdemeanor counts. By the time Philip Berrigan died in 2002, he had spent nearly eleven years in prison for similar acts of conscience. His brother Daniel likewise spent time in prison for his participation in illegal acts of protest and disobedience.

One woman whose acts of civil disobedience mark these current times is Medea Benjamin, co-founder of the activist group CodePink and member of several other peace and justice organizations. Like the Berrigans, Benjamin has acted without permission to expose the injustices of the Iraq occupation and the dangerous motivations of the Bush administration. Benjamin has been arrested on several occasions for vocal and visible protests against the Iraq war; since 2002, she has disrupted speeches by Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and Condoleezza Rice, unfurled anti-war banners on the floor of both the Democratic and Republican conventions in 2004, and shouted down Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki during his speech before the United Nations in 2006. She has been arrested for these and other acts many times; my running joke with her is that she has her bail bondsman on speed-dial.

It was during a protest outside the Fox News headquarters in New York during the 2004 Republican Convention that I personally witnessed the kind of courage Benjamin displays, and the degree of peril this courage places her in. During that Fox protest, the New York police moved in on the protesters in an attempt to push them away from the building. Benjamin refused to go, and I watched two burly officers fold her up like a beach towel and throw her into the back of a squad car. After her release, she showed me the bruises on her arms and the cuts on her wrists, the latter coming from the thin plastic handcuffs that were placed on her during her detention. To act without permission is to volunteer for pain, and Benjamin has never shied away from her willingness to sacrifice her body for a greater good.

There is one person, to my mind, who stands out among all the activists today, one who acts without permission, one whose conscience and courage have done more to further the cause of ending the Iraq occupation than any other. Cindy Sheehan was just another mother from California until her son, Casey, was killed in Iraq. Since her tragic loss, Sheehan has been a tireless advocate for peace and the most visible raven over the door of the White House. Her cries of "Nevermore!" put the catastrophe of Iraq into the living rooms of America, put a face to what was once a nameless suffering, and more than any other single person, turned the tide of opinion on Iraq against the administration that put us there.

Sheehan did not merely protest at a permission-granted demonstration. She sat outside Bush's ranch in the summer of 2005 and refused to leave, forcing the authorities there to work around her presence. She continued her vigil at the White House gate, and was arrested. She continued her vigil at a State of the Union address, and was arrested. She continued her vigil outside the headquarters of the United Nations, and was arrested. She traveled to Cuba to bring attention to the deplorable detention centers at Guantánamo, and put her freedom once again in jeopardy.

Many people go to demonstrations, and this is a good and noble thing. Cindy Sheehan, like the Berrigan brothers and Medea Benjamin, acts without permission. She needs no such permission; her civil disobedience and acts of conscience spring from a well of sorrow and loss so vast that, in facing it, she can do nothing else. History will remember her as a hero, a tragic figure cut from the bloody cloth of these savage times, a voice so piercing and genuine that all Americans are forced to reckon with her. Cindy Sheehan is a place of definitions, and in judging her, we must also judge ourselves. A debt of generational gratitude is owed to her by all of us. Most of us do not act without permission. Cindy Sheehan damns permission, and in doing so, saves us all.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:23 PM
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1. "The essence of such acts, and the bravery required to commit them"
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 08:30 PM by TahitiNut
Precisely. Bravery. Or, as I prefer to say, courage. As We The People demand acts of bravery of our military and expect our elected representatives to act with some modicum of courage (beyond merely jeopardizing reelection), we have behaved like cowards - without honor and without a demonstrated willingness to risk what we ask others to risk: their very lives.

We've become a nation of spectators unwilling to take to the fields and streets to recapture our own democracy. We've spent our inheritance - the inheritance of the blood, sweat, and tears of our forebears. What we're leaving for our heirs is an overheated planet, a massive debt, and a foreclosure of their civil liberties.

Unless and until we're willing to risk leaving our own bodies broken and bleeding in the streets, we don't deserve democracy. Future generations will detest us. We're failing them and we're failing ourselves.

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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:37 PM
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2. I have been thinking about this too.
and I received a message today from democrats.com:

Ten anti-war activists led by Father Jerry Zawada were arrested today on orders from Senator John McCain's office after members of the peace groups CODEPINK, Voices for Creative Nonviolence, and Veterans for Peace tried to meet with the Senator's legislative aide to discuss defunding the war. Activists sang the names of the 75 US servicemen and women from Arizona who have been killed in the war in Iraq, interspersed with the names of Iraqi civilians killed, and collectively chanted "We remember you," after each name and dropped a flower petal on the ground. They delivered framed photos of Iraqi civilians and US soldiers from Arizona who have been killed in Iraq and carried banners reading "Stop Funding War!" and "Americans Want a Prez for Peace".

This is just the start of a national campaign of nonviolent occupations of the offices of Congress Members who support the war and the war-president. Let them have a tiny sense of what Iraqis are experiencing - let them feel a tiny sliver of the inconvenience of an occupation. Let's get them to behave like we have a democracy!

In Fairbanks, Alaska, actions are underway at the offices of Senators Murkowski and Stevens and Representative Young. In Northern Alabama, join a sit-in inside or a demonstration outside the office of Representative Bud Cramer. In Arizona, creative demonstrations are being organized against Senator John McCain. Activists in Los Angeles have planned protests at various offices. In the South Bay, sit-ins are underway in the offices of Representatives Honda, Lofgren, and Eshoo. In Des Moines you can sit-in at the offices of Senator Grassley and Rep. Boswell. In Illinois, the focus is on Representatives Jesse Jackson, Ray La Hood, and Mark Kirk, and Senators Richard Durbin and Barack Obama. All over Minnesota, every Tuesday, constituents will enter the offices of their Congresspersons and Senators at 9:00 am and begin a vigil until 5:00 pm or whenever the offices close. Actions are underway in Portland OR, St. Louis and Seattle as well.

Join these actions - or organize your own!
http://vcnv.org/occupation-project/campaign-descriptions

___________________

I was at the DC protest with my daughter and it was very "safe." At the same time, I think it was important and helped send a message. In the 60's direct action helped focus attention on Vietnam, and the protests showed the strength of numbers. I have great respect for Medea and Cindy. They are literally giving their lives to stand up for others. I need to think hard about an effective action I can take. Perhaps some of us Nutmeggers (CT) should sit in at Lieberman's office.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:41 PM
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4. McCains Arizona Office?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:41 PM
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3. Thank you, Will, for this, and for defending Cindy. On DU, she
needs that, sadly.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:04 PM
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12. Sadly, we human beans have a propensity to sneer at those willing to do ...
... what we're afraid to do ... be what we're afraid to become. When we deny ourselves the walk that matches our talk, we resent anyone who shows us it's possible. Such is the trap of our own timidity.

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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:55 PM
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29. Or
the timidity of our trappings.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:12 AM
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34. Hey! I like alliteration.
Could you tell? :dunce:
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:38 PM
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19. yes. she's seen as being crazy.
her words and actions are completely sane, though.

it's the machine she's bravely jousting that is twisted and absurd.

and murderous. forgot murderous.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:43 PM
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5. This is what its going to take
Messy, loud, 'illegal' protests of millions upon millions to stop this war. Its too profitable for those profiting, its too embarassing for those who supported it, its important to continue it for the dyed in the wool neo-cons.

I remember Viet Nam. I remember and participated in the protests. It will take that to stop this one, but without a draft, its difficult to get people who are willing to be arrested, have their heads bashed in by cops, and all the other risks of taking on power.

The architects of the current Viet Nam have been careful to allow no bloody pictures from Iraq on the nightly news, no pictures of soldiers coffins (at least they have been repressed), and reporters for teh most part have been gagged.


This one is going to last a long long time, unless something happens to kick start a rebellion.
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MoseyWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:44 PM
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6. Thanks for sharing that
I appreciate it.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:45 PM
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7. kick
:kick:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:49 PM
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8. I've been a good girl going to permission granted events...the times however are starting to demand
that we have to do something in the future that is not permission-granted.

Medea and Cindy are amazing...they are doing what we all need to be doing, but so many of us have either been afraid or unwilling to do.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:53 PM
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9. The St Patrick's Four
from Ithaca NY, who were tried in federal court in Binghamton, NY, are a good example, as well.
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 08:59 PM
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10. It really is not that complicated...
stop the violence in your own being, and the world will change. It is not necessary to join millions in the street. Be good to your self, and Wars will end.

Allow the professional protesters, to do --- in your face demos. The organizers of the Vietnam war protests were professional activists, not Michael Moore academy award whiners.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:49 PM
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22. "professional protesters"? "Michael Moore award whiners"?
Don't get your hands dirty! :eyes:

Tell this admin to stop the war in their "own being"; they'd still be killing other beings.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:28 PM
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24. "professional protesters"?
"The organizers of the Vietnam war protests were professional activists"?

You my friend are well intentioned but mildly delusional. It was massive civil disobedience by regular plain old folks that ended the last Really Bad War, not some mythical 'professional activists'.

"Michael Moore academy award whiners"? What are you doing here? I am not even sure about your good intentions anymore.
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:45 PM
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26. I think you miss the point...
If you look at the philosophy of the dissent movements all around the world, from the beginning of the world to the present --- the principle idea was self change --- by seeking the truth in ones self, by changing ones self: ones way of looking at the self and the world, that is much more beneficial then gathering millions of sheeple on the streets, following Michael Moore gods.

If one can remove the violence in ones own heart, and mind, then the world will change by non-violent means. Most of the organizers in the 60s were spiritual masters of the soul, from all religions.

Michael Moore is a bozo --- that could not organize any sort of dissent movement, no matter how much he or his cult followers believe.


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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:53 PM
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28. Great, See ya.
This is not about removing the violence in ones own heart. It is about getting people out in the streets in huge numbers, it is about making the cost of this war unacceptable to the elites, so that the real violence we are committing on a daily basis in Iraq and elsewhere can be brought to an end. You go sit on a mountain somewhere with your mystical bullshit and purify your heart, leave the organizing and dissent to us impure amateurs.
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:14 PM
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30. I said incompetent --- not impure.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:48 PM
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33. And just what ARE you doing to make it better, besides criticizing? nt
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:36 AM
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40. thinking highly of himself... nt
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:54 AM
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35. Wow
I'd be curious to hear what level of enlightenment has been reached by a person who bandies about words like "sheeple."

Is "The Arrogance of Unwarranted Self-Satisfaction" a level of Nirvana I haven't heard about?

It must involve long, loving gazes into mirrors and other reflective surfaces.

If I had to bet.

Wow.
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bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:36 PM
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46. Would you count Gandhi as a "professional activist"?
"Non-cooperation with evil is as much a duty as is cooperation with good."
Mohandas Gandhi

I'm very suspect of your "Be good to your self," you seem to be advocating a kind of quietist retreat from the world. Politeness on a personal level is one thing, but structurally it supports the status quo if it overwhelms the ability to speak out and confront evil. Gandhi was impolite to authority that he felt was illegitimate, and the quote shows he felt that this was a moral imperative.

And Michael Moore is no whiner.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:52 AM
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51. I'll pass on the passive approach, thanks anyway.
I don't have time to wait for the world to change through groovy self-reflection.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:00 PM
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52. At the march last month there was a sizable buddhist contingent.
They were calm, peaceful, but not exactly passive, as there they were marching with us idiots. I ended up walking with them for a while just because the vibes were so nice, and if I weren't an atheist I would be a buddhist. The poster is so far off base, so wrong on many levels, and his post so full of venom (michael moore appears to be his hate object) that perhaps for him the best approach is to indeed wait for the world to change around him.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:02 PM
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11. Nicely put Will. Expect more heroes like Medea and Cindy
in the months to come. Nice, orderly protests have their place, but the natives are getting restless and fed up. There is more to come.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:16 PM
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13. I really don't think people understand civil disobedience...
Not how important it is nor how risky it is.

I say these words in response to a general and historical negative reaction here on DU to Cindy Sheehan's efforts. Civil disobedience is not the first action of choice for almost all activists. It follows letter writing, lobbying, community activism, and civil obedience. Witness Cindy's escalation of her own efforts. Civil disobedience is but one vital part of a myriad of many efforts.

I don't post here often on DU... I run my own very very small political discussion board... so I don't have a lot of room to criticize. But it is very dispiriting for me to see Cindy slammed here regularly. This is a huuuuuuuuge board. It has thousands of resources (i.e., people) that could toss a big shout out and support to her and other activists who put their liberty on the line for a cause that each and every one of us believe in. That shout out, that support, could mean the difference between a criminal sentence (as Cindy recently received) or no trial at all.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:17 PM
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15. Trust me on this
The voices who slam her are far outweighed by the support she gets here. Most prople know the score, and the ones who don't...meh.

Cheers.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:34 PM
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17. Cheers right back at ya!
I'll take a leap of faith and trust you on this. It's difficult though to suppress my inner "dirty hippy" when I see days long raging arguments about the effectiveness Cindy's disobedience when that very same disobedience could be a lot more effective if folks stepped away from the discussion for an hour or so and showed some real live support.

I don't expect people to risk arrest, but several thousand respectful and relevant letters to the judge in her recent trial may have made the difference between possible incarceration or complete liberty.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:49 PM
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27. Always check the recommendations and the reads
They far outweigh the critics.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:06 PM
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49. "meh" indeed, and some "Ack, pbthht!" to boot. nt
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:17 PM
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14. needs a serious kick
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:18 PM
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16. Great Piece
:thumbsup:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:38 PM
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18. "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson
Permission be damned!

Thanks for mentioning the brave Berrigan brothers, too.

And thanks for continuing to stick up for Cindy Sheehan, William. She's the real thing and I still wish she had run for Senate here in California in the primaries against Feinstein.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:39 PM
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20. Without permission is power of conviction and message.
Thanks for honoring those with the courage.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:48 PM
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21. And speakiing of CodePink, got this today:
"Today we kicked off the Occupation Project campaign in Senator McCain’s office in DC—10 Activists were arrested including Sandee from CODEPINK Monterey—and in McCain’s offices in AZ. The campaign started in many other cities as well, and I know there was an initial event in SF and at Sen. Feinstein’s office in LA."

:toast:

Also: Brad Newsham is planning a reprise of the Beach Impeech action -- in about a hundred cities. Got this from him yesterday:

(big snip)

THE PLAN -- On Saturday, March 24 (probably, but not set
in stone), at 100 different locations around the United States, we are going
to recreate, simultaneously, the piece of public performance art we
created on January 6 in San Francisco. During the next several weeks, I and whoever
will help me are going to coach people who want to organize an event in
their own locales on just what needs to be done.

This idea seems to be thick in the air. Even before I've
publicized it, I'vereceived emails and phone calls from people in 8-10 cities
around the US: "That thing at the beach was fantastic -- how can I do that here
in my city?" Off the top of my head, I'm in contact with people in Santa Monica,
Santa Barbara, New Orleans, St. Louis, Minneapolis, New Orleans, Washington
DC, New York City, and a retirement home in Seal Beach, CA, all of who are
interested in organizing a 100-foot 'IMPEACH!' event. And now, today, I'm starting to
publicize it for the first time. Are YOU interested?"

Plenty of opportunities to get busy, folks. :hi:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:24 PM
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23. You are right Will, and this will not be over
until tens of thousands of us put our bodies on the line alongside the brave few who are there now.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:41 PM
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25. great post Will
On behalf of Cindy who is in France this week THANK YOU.
Cindy will not let anyone stop her from doing what her heart tells her to do.She is always telling me if you dont hear from me and dont read in the paper that I have been killed dont worry about me.
She fights for all the ones who wish they had her courage,she fights to save the troops and stop the war.
She fights to save everyone from pain who will lose a loved one in this war and for all the innocent
Iraqi's who deserve none of this.
Medea is such a tiny little thing,I thought by her pictures she was in her 20's and when I read somewhere her age I was amazed at the strenght that she has both mentally and physically.I admire all of you so much, you DUer's give me a reason to get up every day.
As for Cindy I will continue to worry and she will continue to carry on with Casey always at her side.
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:16 PM
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31. Thank you, Will
Fantastic and timely post.

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:45 PM
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32. Will, your essay just gave me goose bumps. Reminded me of a speech by Harry Belafonte...
"Somebody is going to have to make a sacrifice. Somebody is going to have to put their body in front of the machine."

I've been at those big marches too -- both here at home and in Washington DC. We are so polite and co-operative with the authorities!

I don't go in for violence or property destruction, but I swear the MSM is refusing to give us the coverage warranted by our numbers until they see something of that nature.

And even then! The protests at the meetings of the World Economic Forum in Seattle and elsewhere have been violently repressed, but the news just washes over the people and is gone...

Several years ago Harry Belafonte gave a speech at the 2004 Human Rights Awards in San Francisco. Toward the end of his speech he said:

> Somebody is going to have to make a sacrifice. Somebody is going to
> have to put their body in front of the machine. Somebody is going to
> have to die. It's the way things are. It's the way things have been.
> And we, in our efforts to try to change and make a better world,
> will have to pay a price.
>
> Truth is -- we must ask ourselves, are we willing to go all the way?
> Ask yourself if you are truly willing to die for what you believe
> and you might come up with an answer that will explain to you why
> we haven't quite moved as far ahead as we should be moving. What are
> we prepared to give? What are we prepared to do? And should it be
> any less than those who have gone before us and who are willing to
> pay the price?


Powerful words -- and frightening, to those of us living comfortably in this land. What will it take? What will it take?

Hekate
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This is the link I have in my files. Hope it still works.
"We Have Got To Bring Corporate America To Its Knees" -
Harry Belafonte on Racism, Poverty, John Kerry, War and Resistance
Tuesday, June 15th, 2004
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/15/1410245
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:00 AM
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36. K & R
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:07 AM
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37. Superb article
K & R
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:08 AM
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38. K & R
"To commit civil disobedience, at bottom, is to act without permission."

Very well put.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:08 AM
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39. I'm at a loss for words.... very moving.
Thank you.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 07:48 AM
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41. Thank you.
Edited on Wed Feb-07-07 07:49 AM by rosesaylavee
Mass courage is what it will take.

If it hasn't happened yet with the many many horrible things this regime has done to us and others in the world, I shudder to think what it would take to cause everyone to leap to their feet and take to the streets at the same time.

I hope the 'mass realization' that the current status quo of the War and Poverty/Income gap is not acceptable will take place gradually (slowly rather than explosively) before something more horrible happens and we have revolution in the streets... I see the greatest test of our Democracy heading toward us in this.

If we don't fight for it, will we be able to stay a Democracy?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:04 PM
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42. An afternoon boot
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:29 PM
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43. Thank-you. heard.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 02:33 PM
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44. Rosa Parks comes to mind....
k&r
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 03:41 PM
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45. K & R.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 05:15 PM
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47. The women to the forefront!
My heroines.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 06:14 PM
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48. There is only one way to get rid of these money-grubbers. Cut
off their funds. Boycott and protest against the warlords, making money off this travesty. I will never buy anything from Disney again and I am boycotting ABC. I told AT&T and BellSouth why I was getting rid of them. I have not bought gas from Exxon since the Valdeez incident. Ditto Walmart and Sams. Help me out. My only failure is in not writing them weekly to remind them why they are on my blacklist. I need to start that I do tell everybody I can everytime I get a chance why I will never darken these doors again.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:35 AM
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50. Only Impeachment carries the label "Permission Denied"
And it is right to laud Cindy Sheehan for demanding it.

But as for the conflating, rather concealing, of the substantive Impeachment movement into the decades-old, familiar ghetto of the "Anti-War Left" and their current, admirable but outdated, shouting at the wind over Iraq. That's not only permitted but cheered by the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy.

It serves their purposes, their comfort narrative, not ours.

The same is true for the euphemistic, empty threat of "defunding the war." A notion that would be naive even if we didn't live under "rule by signing statement." It offers merely an illusion of confrontation. Crack cocaine for the insignificant-sound-n-fury junkies in the beltway.

Again, the shadow players appear from central casting.

The "disobedience" of Medea Benjamin -- while being courageous, and even useful -- just isn't particulary effective. Because our current problem is not one of ignorance. Sorry, liberals but we can't "teach" or "consciousness raise" out of this one (or many other ones for that matter).

The power in Cindy's act of defiance in Crawford was in her simple question: "Why?"

Her single word crystalized the real issue. That terrorizing the American People with threats of "Mushroom Clouds!" into tacit compliance with war crimes was an offense that could never be rationally justified. There was no answer good enough.

More importantly, it implied that defensive response to these domestic terrorists and war criminals was imperative. That with the essence of the crimes exposed, it was remotely possible that our "leaders" might be prevailed upon to do what they know they must.

It remains merely a possibility. Waiting for someone in DC to actually respond to the demands of the people, rather than their consultants, and DO SOMETHING.

Only Impeachment ... is doing something.

It IS our positive agenda.

It is our ONLY moral, patriotic, anti-war option.

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