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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:15 PM
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Seymour Hersh: WH is afraid Congress will vote a binding resolution to stop a hit on Iran
Seymour M. Hersh
November 20, 2006:


If the Democrats won on November 7th, the Vice-President said, that victory would not stop the Administration from pursuing a military option with Iran. The White House would put “shorteners” on any legislative restrictions, Cheney said, and thus stop Congress from getting in its way.

The White House’s concern was not that the Democrats would cut off funds for the war in Iraq but that future legislation would prohibit it from financing operations targeted at overthrowing or destabilizing the Iranian government, to keep it from getting the bomb. “They’re afraid that Congress is going to vote a binding resolution to stop a hit on Iran, à la Nicaragua in the Contra war,” a former senior intelligence official told me.
In late 1982, Edward P. Boland, a Democratic representative, introduced the first in a series of “Boland amendments,” which limited the Reagan Administration’s ability to support the Contras, who were working to overthrow Nicaragua’s left-wing Sandinista government. The Boland restrictions led White House officials to orchestrate illegal fund-raising activities for the Contras, including the sale of American weapons, via Israel, to Iran. The result was the Iran-Contra scandal of the mid-eighties. Cheney’s story, according to the source, was his way of saying that, whatever a Democratic Congress might do next year to limit the President’s authority, the Administration would find a way to work around it. (In response to a request for comment, the Vice-President’s office said that it had no record of the discussion.) .....Cheney is emphatic about Iraq. In late October, he told Time, “I know what the President thinks,” about Iraq. “I know what I think. And we’re not looking for an exit strategy. We’re looking for victory.” He is equally clear that the Administration would, if necessary, use force against Iran. “The United States is keeping all options on the table in addressing the irresponsible conduct of the regime,” he told an Israeli lobbying group early this year. “And we join other nations in sending that regime a clear message: we will not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon.”





Jeffrey Goldberg
February 5, 2007:


(Senator Christopher) Dodd wants a binding resolution to stop the President’s Iraq buildup, even though such a measure would almost certainly fail. “There’s nothing wrong with losing a vote if you’re making a point that people want us to make,” he said. “Things are going to get a lot harder in the next month or two. If we’re going to stop this, we have to stop it before the new troops get to Iraq. You’re not going to cut off their funds once they’re there. The window is closing. The country is way ahead of the Senate on this.”




(Jeffrey Goldberg) asked Dodd if he has spoken to any other senators who are as optimistic as Lieberman is about Iraq. “I’ll tell you, I bet this has happened fifteen times in the last few days—conservative Republicans have said to me that they’ve told the White House that this is
http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/070212fa_fact_goldberg"> the last vote you’re going to get out of them, a vote against the Iraq resolution,” Dodd said. “They’re angry, and they sure don’t believe the new plan is going to work.”





Seymour M. Hersh
November 20, 2006:


Another critical issue for Gates will be the Pentagon’s expanding effort to conduct clandestine and covert intelligence missions overseas. Such activity has traditionally been the C.I.A.’s responsibility, but, as the result of a systematic push by Rumsfeld, military covert actions have been substantially increased. In the past six months, Israel and the United States have also been working together in support of a Kurdish resistance group known as the Party for Free Life in Kurdistan. The group has been conducting clandestine cross-border forays into Iran, I was told by a government consultant with close ties to the Pentagon civilian leadership, as “part of an effort to explore alternative means of applying pressure on Iran.” (The Pentagon has established covert relationships with Kurdish, Azeri, and Baluchi tribesmen, and has encouraged their efforts to undermine the regime’s authority in northern and southeastern Iran.) The government consultant said that Israel is giving the Kurdish group “equipment and training.” The group has also been given “a list of targets inside Iran of interest to the U.S.” (An Israeli government spokesman denied that Israel was involved.)


Such activities, if they are considered military rather than intelligence operations, do not require congressional briefings. For a similar C.I.A. operation, the President would, by law, have to issue a formal finding that the mission was necessary, and the Administration would have to brief the senior leadership of the House and the Senate. The lack of such consultation annoyed some Democrats in Congress. This fall, I was told, Representative David Obey, of Wisconsin, the ranking Democrat on the House Appropriations subcommittee that finances classified military activity, pointedly asked, during a closed meeting of House and Senate members, whether “anyone has been briefing on the Administration’s plan for military activity in Iran.” The answer was no. (A spokesman for Obey confirmed this account.)




In the current issue of Foreign Policy, Joshua Muravchik, a prominent neoconservative, argued that the Administration had little choice. “Make no mistake: President Bush will need to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities before leaving office,” he wrote. The President would be bitterly criticized for a preëmptive attack on Iran, Muravchik said, and so neoconservatives “need to pave the way intellectually now and be prepared to defend the action when it comes.”
The main Middle East expert on the Vice-President’s staff is David Wurmser, a neoconservative who was a strident advocate for the invasion of Iraq and the overthrow of Saddam Hussein. Like many in Washington, Wurmser “believes that, so far, there’s been no price tag on Iran for its nuclear efforts and for its continuing agitation and intervention inside Iraq,” the consultant said. But, unlike those in the Administration who are calling for limited strikes, Wurmser and others in Cheney’s office “want to end the regime,” the consultant said. “They argue that there can be no settlement of the Iraq war without regime change in Iran.”




The Administration’s planning for a military attack on Iran was made far more complicated earlier this fall by a highly classified draft assessment by the C.I.A. challenging the White House’s assumptions about how close Iran might be to building a nuclear bomb. The C.I.A. found no conclusive evidence, as yet, of a secret Iranian nuclear-weapons program running parallel to the civilian operations that Iran has declared to the International Atomic Energy Agency. (The C.I.A. declined to comment on this story.)
The C.I.A.’s analysis, which has been circulated to other agencies for comment, was based on technical intelligence collected by overhead satellites, and on other empirical evidence, such as measurements of the radioactivity of water samples and smoke plumes from factories and power plants. Additional data have been gathered, intelligence sources told me, by high-tech (and highly classified) radioactivity-detection devices that clandestine American and Israeli agents placed near suspected nuclear-weapons facilities inside Iran in the past year or so. No significant amounts of radioactivity were found.
A current senior intelligence official confirmed the existence of the C.I.A. analysis, and told me that the White House had been hostile to it. The White House’s dismissal of the C.I.A. findings on Iran is widely known in the intelligence community. Cheney and his aides discounted the assessment, the former senior intelligence official said. “They’re not looking for a smoking gun,” the official added, referring to specific intelligence about Iranian nuclear planning. “They’re looking for the degree of comfort level they think they need to accomplish the mission.”




The former senior intelligence official added that the C.I.A. assessment raised the possibility that an American attack on Iran could end up serving as a rallying point to unite Sunni and Shiite populations. “An American attack will paper over any differences in the Arab world, and we’ll have Syrians, Iranians, Hamas, and Hezbollah fighting against us—and the Saudis and the Egyptians questioning their ties to the West. It’s an analyst’s worst nightmare—for the first time since the caliphate there will be common cause in the Middle East.” (An Islamic caliphate ruled the Middle East for over six hundred years, until the thirteenth century.)
According to the Pentagon consultant, “The C.I.A.’s view is that, without more intelligence, a large-scale bombing attack would not stop Iran’s nuclear program. And a low-end campaign of subversion and sabotage would play into Iran’s hands—bolstering support for the religious leadership and deepening anti-American Muslim rage.”
The Pentagon consultant said that he and many of his colleagues in the military believe that Iran is intent on developing nuclear-weapons capability. But he added that the Bush Administration’s options for dealing with that threat are diminished, because of a lack of good intelligence and also because “we’ve cried wolf” before.




(The Pentagon consultant) added, with obvious exasperation, that within the intelligence community “we’re going to be fighting over the quality of the information for the next year.” One reason for the dispute, he said, was that the White House had asked to see the “raw”—the original, unanalyzed and unvetted—Israeli intelligence. Such “stovepiping” of intelligence had led to faulty conclusions about nonexistent weapons of mass destruction during the buildup to the 2003 Iraq war. “Many Presidents in the past have done the same thing,” the consultant said, “but intelligence professionals are always aghast when Presidents ask for stuff in the raw. They see it as asking a second grader to read ‘Ulysses.’ ” ..... Patrick Clawson, an expert on Iran who is the deputy director for research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a conservative think tank, told me that the “biggest moment” of tension has yet to arrive: “How does the United States keep an Israeli decision point—one that may come sooner than we want—from being reached?” Clawson noted that there is evidence that Iran has been slowed by technical problems in the construction and operation of two small centrifuge cascades, which are essential for the pilot production of enriched uranium. Both are now under I.A.E.A. supervision. “Why were they so slow in getting the second cascade up and running?” Clawson asked. “And why haven’t they run the first one as much as they said they would? Do we have more time?

“Why talk about war?” he said.




In an interview this month with the Jerusalem Post, (Israeli Deputy Defense Minister) Sneh expressed skepticism about the effectiveness of diplomacy or international sanctions in curbing Iran:

The danger isn’t as much Ahmadinejad’s deciding to launch an attack but Israel’s living under a dark cloud of fear from a leader committed to its destruction. . . . Most Israelis would prefer not to live here; most Jews would prefer not to come here with families, and Israelis who can live abroad will . . . I am afraid Ahmadinejad will be able to kill the Zionist dream without pushing a button. That’s why we must prevent this regime from obtaining nuclear capability at all costs.


A similar message was delivered by Benjamin Netanyahu, the Likud leader, in a speech in Los Angeles last week. “It’s 1938 and Iran is Germany. And Iran is racing to arm itself with atomic bombs,” he said, adding that there was “still time” to stop the Iranians.


The Pentagon consultant told me that, while there may be pressure from the Israelis, “they won’t do anything on their own without our green light.” That assurance, he said, “comes from the Cheney shop. It’s Cheney himself who is saying, ‘We’re not going to leave you high and dry, but don’t go without us.’ ” A senior European diplomat agreed: “For Israel, it is a question of life or death. The United States does not want to go into Iran, but, if Israel feels more and more cornered, there may be no other choice.”





Israel's war is to be sold as America's war.---Patrick J. Buchanan, January 31, 2007


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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:16 PM
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1. And the rest of us are afraid they won't.
And I hate to tell you who I think is going to win that one.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 03:26 PM
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28. Oh, I bet the Dems will issue a very strongly worded statement
encouraging Bush to reconsider.

:sarcasm:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:16 PM
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2. Highly recommend. nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:18 PM
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3. In other words, this administration is sacrificing the
United States for the sole benefit of Israel.

If that isn't treason, what is?
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:20 PM
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4. Seymour hasn't been wrong yet...
First reoprted on Iran plans in the New Yorker some months ago. Thanks for the recap of his formidable research which is always impeccably sourced by him.

He is a hero as far as I am concerned - even though wat he reports is scary to the nth degree.
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R_M Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:01 PM
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11. But will the GOP fillibuster and binding anti-Iran war resolutions?
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:14 AM
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44. Of course they will. nt
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:22 PM
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5. A must read post!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:26 PM
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6. Great post! But I'm not so sure the White House has much to fear from Congress,
AIPAC owns too many of them.

sw
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:29 PM
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8. nothing to fear at all.
money talks, the voters get forked.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:28 PM
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7. That explains a lot about Congress not taking up
any resolutions condemning the Middle East clusterfuck.

A majority of the congress is just okey dokey with blowing them up some Iran, but don't want to be identified with it because it would spell political death because they know the fall out will be disastrous.

So much for congress. :shrug:
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:39 PM
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9. I know from some questions asked that the dems suspect what they are up to
what they do is what is the real question. stop the bushites before they do something really dangerous
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:55 PM
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10. K&R
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:05 PM
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12. It often occurs to me - and to many of this forum, I'm sure -
that overwhelming paranoia and the abject fear that keeps some people paralyzed and incapable of doing the necessary thinking required for diplomacy and international problem solving might be the result of guilt. A deep, abiding but unspoken guilt that eats the soul.

But maybe not. One would think that a conscience and internal standards of right and wrong are necessary to feel guilt.
Perhaps the unreasoning fear is not guilt but a pretty good understanding that somebody has done some pretty bad things and there are others that are real pissed-so pissed that the perps know, were the situation reversed, just what evil doers should expect in retribution.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:14 PM
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13. If they were only legitimate about their business. But they are criminals.
They need to be delt with as such.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:49 PM
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14. They Should be because Americans are watching
Be afraid
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:11 PM
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15. USAs & Israels Action in the Middle East Has Record of Irresponsibility
Let's face reality folks. The hair trigger actions of the USA and Israel in the Middle East have been more than irresponsible. The USA has spent thousands upon thousands of lives and going on a trillion dollars to have one man hanged by a mob. Israel killed thousands, destroyed a democracy, a country and enraged peoples all over the earth over two kidnapped soldiers. I suspect until the USA and Israel are finished the entire Middle East and its oil supply will have been destroyed because Iran wants the same nukes that Israel possesses.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 09:53 AM
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16. It's hard to know what to say about this. Already the Neo-Cons are placing
disinformation as editorials in our Newspapers. There was one just yesterday in USA Today on "Why we Must Deal with Iran." I was going to post it here as an example of the Neo-Con Propaganda Machine...but it made me sick to read it...so I didn't.

That Cheney and the Neo-Cons still have so much power does lead one to wonder where the Senate and House are on the issue. The Senate has too many in AIPAC's pocket...and they are the ones who will control things if Bush bombs Iran.

Not much else we can do about this. Both House and Senate have been informed about Iran and everyone who has tried to stop another reckless deadly adventure has spoken out in the liberal internet. The people have spoken about Bush's War and all the faxes and e-mails have been sent. All the petitions signed. So, we have to assume if the Bushies go ahead it's because they know that they can get away with it again even if the results are disaster in the ME and for us. I've noticed the TeeVee Media is once again on lockdown pushing trivial stories and focusing on Personalities for '08 Election. We won't get any help from them. In fact, when the bombing begins they will go into Pump mode because that's what they are required to do.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:29 AM
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18. Please post that editorial, KoKo01. We must not ever stop exposing these monsters.
Just keep chipping away with that little mallet and chisel....
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:57 AM
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20. Here's the link:
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:41 AM
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21. Thanks. This is more of the all-out propaganda blitz hitting us like a hell-storm.
Propaganda blitz against Americans discussed further here.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:34 PM
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36. the author, Saccone is a Fellow at the new PNAC group
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/biographies/biographies.htm
http://www.defenddemocracy.org/programs/programs_show.htm?doc_id=357097

I can almost 'feel' the infiltration.


from the USA Today article:

Dr. Richard Saccone, a retired Air Force captain who served as a counterintelligence consultant in Iraq, teaches international relations at Saint Vincent College in Pennsylvania.

he must be an expert, huh?
a counterintelligence consultant working for whom? what company? doing what?

I don't think he's been at St. Vincent that long ... the link to his CV doesn't work
http://www.stvincent.edu/mckenna4

Richard Saccone, PhD, University of Pittsburgh; MA, Naval Post Graduate School; MPA, University of Oklahoma; BS, Weber State University

Field: International Affairs, Business Law

St. Vincent is headed by former Bu$h malAdmin, faith-based director, Jim Towey, 2002-2006. Wonder if he brought Saccone on board?

H. James Towey, who has served since 2002 as Assistant to the President of the United States and director of the Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, becomes head of the America's First Benedictine College -- a 160-year-old Catholic college of the liberal arts and sciences which is sponsored by the Benedictine monks of Saint Vincent Archabbey.
http://www.stvincent.edu/news_stories/news_stories/former-white-house-assistant-to-the-president-h2.-james-towey-named-16th-president-of-saint-vincent-college?func=previousThread


Dr. Richard Saccone awarded academic fellowship for terrorism prevention studies in Israel


http://www.stvincent.edu/news_stories/news_stories/dr.-richard-saccone-awarded-academic-fellowship-for-terrorism-prevention-studies-in-israel

The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies (FDD), a non-partisan policy institute headquartered in Washington, D.C., has named Dr. Richard Saccone, Assistant Professor of Political Science at Saint Vincent College, as an Academic Fellow for 2006.

The Fellowship enabled Dr. Saccone to travel to Israel for an intensive course in terrorism studies and to study how democracies can defeat the worldwide terrorist threat.

“Terrorism is the greatest threat today to the world’s democracies, including the United States and our allies around the globe,” said Clifford May, President of FDD. “To win the war against terrorism, we must win the war of ideas by promoting democracy and defeating the totalitarian ideologies that drive and justify terrorism.”

The FDD Academic Fellows program provides a 10-day learning experience to U.S.-based teaching and research professionals to provide them with cutting edge information about defeating terrorist groups. The 2006 program, which is being conducted at Tel Aviv University from May 27 to June 7, includes lectures by academics, military and intelligence officials, as well as diplomats from Israel, Jordan, India, Turkey and the United States. It also includes “hands on” experience through visits to police, customs, and immigration facilities, military bases, and border zones to learn the practical side of deterring and defeating terrorists.

Dr. Saccone teaches courses on International Relations, Comparative Politics, National Government and International Management in the Alex G. McKenna School of Business, Economics, and Government. He also teaches a course on Global Terrorism.

Dr. Saccone said that he was very much looking forward to the opportunity to listen and participate in the exchanges and interactions in Israel. "It should be a useful experience for a course I will to teach on International Terrorism next year and other related academic activities,” he commented.
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Richard Saccone, retired U.S. Air Force, alumnus of the Naval Postgraduate School, has spent over fourteen years in the Koreas. He has written six books on Korea covering history, culture, tourism, and business, and he is well qualified to discuss the topic of negotiations. He is a former representative for KEDO, the Korean Peninsula Development Organization, building nuclear power plants as required under the 1994 Agreed Framework between the United States and the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. Saccone currently teaches international relations and national government at St. Vincent’s College in Latrobe, Pennsylvania.

http://www.nwc.navy.mil/press/Review/2005/Winter/br8-w05.htm

wonder if he's fair and balanced with his teaching?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:21 PM
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33. AIPAC is another great reason to boot out of office anyone accepting money from them.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:20 PM
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35. America first.
Accept money from any foreign hyphenated lobby..... AIPAC, CAIR, French, or the Mexican and our country will be compromised to the benefit of another country. There was a time when that was more acceptable, before we were trillions in debt and before we had trade imbalances of trillions and before the boomerswere going to retire.

Now we must look out for America.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:19 AM
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17. Republicans running out the clock on the chances of a binding resolution that would stop Iran attack
The bottom line: The White House has *undoubtedly issued orders* to Republican senators to run out the clock on the chances the Senate will pass a binding resolution to forbid an attack on Iran, buying time for Bush to surge large numbers of additional troops to the region. It he has enough time to accomplish that, he will commence an attack on Iran, and all Democrats will be forever bludgeoned with *not supporting the troops* if they then try to cut funding.

The key is for the Democrats to issue a binding resolution against attacking Iran, BEFORE the surge of more troops into the field.


...Republicans have their orders to obstruct, obfuscate, obliterate and otherwise deflect any attention away from the one way Congress can stop this upcoming attack on Iran --a binding resolution forbidding an attack on Iran-- for once the troop surge is underway, the more bindingly difficult it will be to stop crusader Bush from his hell-bent catastrophe aimed at yet another nation.

Senator Reid, the window to stop an attack on Iran is closing rapidly.



Many Voices, No Debate, as Senate Is Stifled on War

By CARL HULSE
February 7, 2007


WASHINGTON, Feb. 6 — At a time when even President Bush acknowledges that the war in Iraq is sapping the nation’s spirit, the Senate has tied itself up in procedural knots rather than engage in a debate on Iraq policy.

.....

“It just floors me,” said Senator Amy Klobuchar, a freshman Democrat from Minnesota who campaigned against the war, as the two parties pointed fingers on Tuesday. The day before, the Senate proved unable to agree on a plan to even begin debate on a bipartisan resolution opposing the administration strategy. “People in Minnesota, when they see a debate we should be having — whatever side they are on — blocked by partisan politics, they don’t like it,” Ms. Klobuchar said.

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By the end of the day on Tuesday, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, said he saw little prospect that Democrats and Republicans could reach agreement on a plan to bring the resolution to the floor. “The negotiations are over,” said Mr. Reid, who dismissed Republican efforts to force a separate vote on the war money as a ploy intended to distract the public from the matter of whether senators supported or opposed the president’s policy.

Republicans spent the day trying to counter the idea that they had been obstructionists in impeding the debate. It was a label they had successfully hung on Democrats for years, and they did not appreciate the role reversal.

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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:58 PM
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24. YahooNews: Bush pressured Senate Republicans to block resolution on Iraq policy
Thanks to sabra for finding this.


This, in the face of a fifth helicopter downed in Iraq today, with seven fatalities.



White House stifles victory cry over blocked Iraq resolution

February 6, 2007



US President George W. Bush addresses an audience at Micron Technology in Manassas, Virginia. Bush succeeded in pressuring fellow Republicans to block a vote on a Senate resolution critical of his Iraq policy, but the White House refrained from crowing too soon.(AFP/Karen Bleier)


by Laurent Lozano Tue Feb 6, 3:19 PM ET



WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush succeeded in pressuring fellow Republicans to block a vote on a Senate resolution critical of his
Iraq policy, but the White House refrained from crowing too soon.
With the opposition Democrats winning control of Congress in November on voter anger with the Iraq war, Monday's Senate vote that blocked debate on Bush's policy likely was more a reprieve than a victory.

A spokeswoman for the Bush administration conceded Tuesday that it had actively helped to block, at least for now, vote on a resolution which would express Senate opposition to Bush's decision to send 21,500 additional US troops to Iraq.
"It is accurate that we are engaged. This is the president's policy, and so, of course, we are engaged," said Dana Perino, without using the "pressure" word to describe White House actions to prevent Republican lawmakers from siding with the new Democratic majority in Congress on the disputed strategy.

Perino said the White House had contacted about 200 lawmakers to explain Bush's plan and the decision-making behind it.
She spoke of "a quite robust operation" led by Bush's legislative affairs assistant, Candi Wolff, to deliver a twofold message: an explanation of the president's decision-making and "why we think that sending mixed signals to the troops and our enemy is not in our nation's interest."
The White House campaign, political calculations and jockeying ahead of the 2008 presidential and political elections overrode the unpopularity of the Iraq war Monday when Republican senators blocked debate on the resolution opposing the new Iraq plan.

A dozen Republicans had seemed likely to approve the non-binding, bipartisan measure, co-authored with the Democrats by an eminent member of Bush's party.
But Mitch McConnell (news, bio, voting record), the Republican minority leader in the 100-seat Senate, derailed the resolution using procedural maneuvers and playing on internal divisions among Democrats.
Lawmakers voted 49-47 to proceed with the debate, failing to meet the required 60-vote majority.

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A senior Bush administration official said they had not broken out the champagne after the vote late Monday and advised a wait-and-see caution.
For in fact the debate was not going away. The head of the Democratic majority in the Senate, Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record), challenged Republicans: "You can run but you can't hide ... We are going to debate Iraq."




Congress, for the love of all living things on this planet, stop this madman now.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:47 AM
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19. Too important to pass over. K&R!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:44 AM
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22. .
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:19 PM
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23. k & r nt
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 01:18 PM
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25. What happened to our country? Where is our government?
Why isn't anyone in Washington discussing the welfare of the United States? I am so sick of hearing Israel, Israel, Israel. The AIPAC'S complete lockdown on our congress has left our welfare out of the picture. When this guy says, Iran has to be stopped "at all costs" he means America's cost. How we got blackmailed into sacrificing our country for Israel...I don't know, but I sure am pissed.

In an interview this month with the Jerusalem Post, (Israeli Deputy Defense Minister) Sneh expressed skepticism about the effectiveness of diplomacy or international sanctions in curbing Iran:

The danger isn’t as much Ahmadinejad’s deciding to launch an attack but Israel’s living under a dark cloud of fear from a leader committed to its destruction. . . . Most Israelis would prefer not to live here; most Jews would prefer not to come here with families, and Israelis who can live abroad will . . . I am afraid Ahmadinejad will be able to kill the Zionist dream without pushing a button. That’s why we must prevent this regime from obtaining nuclear capability at all costs.



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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 01:21 PM
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26. “they won’t do anything on their own without our green light.” ???
they CAN'T do anything without ASSISTANCE either, no matter what else they may claim.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 03:23 PM
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27. It's essential to remember that The Surge(TM) is all about Iran.
Thanks for posting. Hersh is a great reporter, and this is a must-read.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:31 PM
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40. It much be way bigger than the 21k they are talkin about.
Do you think they are lying and sending a lot more than this number? If they are planning on attacking iran they will need a few hundred thousand more. Even if they are only bombing Iran 21k more troops seems small.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:09 PM
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41. I don't know where they'll get a few hundred thousand more troops
unless they start manufacturing Orcs.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 05:06 AM
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45. I don't either.
nt
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AbbyR Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 03:35 PM
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29. Does anyone who is in a position to do anything really care?
I often feel that we are preaching to the choir here, and no one in congress gives a hoot what we think. No to Iraq? Let's chat about it. No to Iran? Let's just have tea. I'm sick of it.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:11 PM
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30. K&R.nt
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:12 PM
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31. Good. Let's make it a warranted fear. - n/t
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:15 PM
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32. Bingo!
Was his name -Oh.

Can we impeach these fucks yet?? Purty puhleaaaaaaaaaaaaase- Nancy? Harry??
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 04:24 PM
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34. Bush should have thought about his future credibility before attacking Iraq
I do think Iran is a threat, I've thought that since Jimmy Carter was president. They are certainly a threat to Israel, and all who live within it's borders. Their president has said that he wants to wipe Israel from the face of the earth, and he is working on nukes to do so.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 08:55 PM
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37. The Dems need a war room against an Iran war....every time a
disinformation statement goes out, counter it. Really, as I've said before, they have to be in constant campaign mode, either FOR what they are accomplishing or AGAINST what the Rethugs are doing.

Without that kind of discipline, the Democrats just are getting more and more back to what they've been in recent years...appearing weak.
And that helps Bushco.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:21 PM
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38. Dean should be getting on the ball with Clark
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 11:10 PM
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42. Clark has......done just that!
According to Maxine Waters on Hardball today, Wes Clark has been warning the Congress on Bush's push towards Iran for some time.

Watch the video-
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=100d1b29-b00e-4078-a9b7-6e66af6eacfd&p=Source_Hardball&t=c1150&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/&fg=

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Maxine Waters comes on at 7:17
Talks about Iran at 8:00 when Chris Matthews asks her specifically about Iran.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:50 AM
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43. If we can just get Clark on NBC Today, ABC GMA, CBS This Morning, Oprah, etc.
Smother the media!

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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 07:57 AM
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46. That would certainly help...
but we do know he's been consulting closely with members of Congress on this. If only more of them will listen to him now than did back before the last war, perhaps they can be convinced to do everything in their power to at least try to stop the madman before the next disaster.
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 08:18 AM
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47. That was exactly my first thought too.....
Dean... gather them up and make this happen. We as Americans are fed up!!!

I say we start calling his office...

his 50 state plan? superb...

now we need a WAR ROOM against Iran War.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 10:22 PM
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39. I don't see why, we have yet to deny him anything
much less a war.
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