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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:30 PM
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It's not as bad when a woman does it...
:eyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4253849.stm

A woman who ripped off her ex-boyfriend's testicle with her bare hands has been sent to prison.

The court heard that a friend saw Monti put Mr Jones's testicle into her mouth and try to swallow it.

She choked and spat it back into her hand before the friend grabbed it and gave it back to Mr Jones. Doctors were unable to re-attach the organ.

Monti admitted wounding and was jailed for two-and-a-half years.

2 1/2 Years for half-castration? What the FUCK? If this had been a man who destroyed an ovary, or cut off a breast, you can bet you ASS that he would get more than 30 months of incarceration, and rightly so. Why the double standard? Granted, this is in the UK, but in my experience, what flies over there by and large flies over here (the U.S.) Is this what western society has come to? A woman rips one of a guy's nuts off and gets significantly less time than someone with a large amount of pot or coke?

Flame suit ON, I have a feeling that many will disagree with my interpretation of this travesty of "justice"...
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:32 PM
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1. I don't disagree at all, I'm just sitting here trembling
at the thought of this. I don't ever want to meet that chick.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:06 PM
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29. Is she related to Lorena Bobbitt, ya think? nt
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:33 PM
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2. "An argument ensued and Mr Jones said there was a struggle between them."
What kind of struggle? Was it a violent struggle?

There is not enough information here to come to any kind of conclusion.

But for the record, men rape and beat and mutilate and murder women every day and get away with it, so your basic premise is incorrect.
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OlderButWiser Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:37 PM
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4. Is there a group of people advocating
that men should be allowed to get away with rape?
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:47 PM
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13. Is that what I said?
Also, is there a group claiming that women should have free reign to castrate men at their pleasure?

If so, I've never heard of them.

What I said was that there wasn't enough information for me to know WHY she did it. For all I know they were fighting and he tried to sodomize her and she bit his ball off. I'm not saying this is what happened, but I have no way of knowing based on the information in that article.

If things were the other way around, and she claimed that he had raped her, everyone here would be saying, "No way to know, it's he said/she said," but in this case we're supposed to assume he's telling the truth? No dice.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:47 PM
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37. yes
it's called a PATRIARCHAL SOCIETY
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:38 PM
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7. "...your basic premise is incorrect."
My BASIC PREMISE is that a violent individual of either gender who mutilates somebody else's genitals deserves to be put away for a LONG time, as in a decade MINIMUM.

"There is not enough information here to come to any kind of conclusion."

I know all that I need to know. This woman RIPPED ONE OF HIS BALLS OFF!

"But for the record, men rape and beat and mutilate and murder women every day and get away with it..."

Which has what to do with anything again? Just because a subset of male criminal psychopaths get away with their crimes means that women should be treated by a different set of rules?

Oy... You get one of these ---> :eyes:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:41 PM
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11. Three years is a long time.
I don't know.

What's the average sentence for aggravated assault for men in the U.K.?

This doesn't seem exceptionally noteworthy.
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:50 PM
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19. You know what else is a long time?
An entire half (or more) of a lifetime without one of your testicles!

"What's the average sentence for aggravated assault for men in the U.K.?"

Good question. This is no simple assault, however. She mutilated this man, literally removed one of his organs. Seeing as how there is a great degree of vascularity in the scrotal region, it is entirely conceivable that she could have caused him to bleed to death, were it not for simple good fortune.

Three years? A.) TWO AND ONE HALF YEARS. Not three. B.) Missing portions of genitals. If a man ripped off a woman's breast, would you still agree that 2.5 (or 3) years would be a sufficient punishment?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:54 PM
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23. Yeah, well he didn't die.
It also doesn't sound like first degree murder.

I also do think there's a distinction between aggravated assault that causes mutilation and aggravated assault that doesn't, nor do I see a reason why he should be.

Yeah, I think two and a half years is fine. Punishment should be about rehabilitation. Not this Old Testament eye for an eye bullshit.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:47 PM
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14. Read my reply above.
:eyes:

Cute.
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:55 PM
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25. Yes, because if they were fighting, it makes it A-OK for her to rip off a man's testicle, right?
Your rhetoric reminds me of the "She was asking for me to rape her!" defense, in other words, utterly indefensible.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:47 PM
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15. The exact outrage I feel when I read about female genital mutilation.
MKJ
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:39 PM
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8. Was it a violent struggle?
Are you serious?
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:48 PM
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16. Read my reply above.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:55 PM
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24. Your reply was, essentially, "maybe he had it coming."
Sounds like blaming the victim to me.
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MLFerrell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:56 PM
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27. Amen.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:35 PM
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3. not that's a loyal friend.
As MC Hammer once said: "Can't touch this"!
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:38 PM
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5. She couldn't swallow it
Man... You go to the trouble of ripping the testicle off with your bare hands and you can't nail down the big finish with the swallow?

That's gotta be disappointing.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:45 PM
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12. Probably never had 'Rocky Mountain Oysters'.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:12 PM
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30. If she would have had some dipping sauces I bet she could have got it down. n/t
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:23 PM
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33. LOL!! Yep, I'm sure o f it.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:38 PM
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6. The guillotine is TOO GOOD for this wretched wench...........
OFF with her.........HEAD!

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:39 PM
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9. He must have done something to piss her off. Was he screwing around on her?
n/t
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:40 PM
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10. He must have burnt the pot roast.
lol, wut?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:50 PM
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20. Maybe he didn't clean up.
:toast:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:49 PM
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17. She's going to be ROYALTY in the slammer! A woman among girls! nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:50 PM
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18. I'm guessing this wasn't at a Royal reception
Edited on Wed Aug-01-07 09:50 PM by Canuckistanian
But I hear those Ascot parties get a little out of hand.

Seems to me there were a few mitigating circumstances for the court. She was remorseful (always helps) and the fact that the victim didn't seem to bear a grudge might have helped her case.

Still, I don't know what the usual sentences are for wounding in the UK. Seems she got off very lightly, indeed.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:52 PM
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21. What were they doing that she had access to his naked nerts, I'm wondering?
And why were there "friends" present? What message was she trying to send by eating the severed nut? A fascinating case.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:52 PM
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22. What a nut case!
:evilgrin:

PB
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:55 PM
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26. boo!
hiss!
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 09:57 PM
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28. Where's the outrage when a man gets a light sentence....
for manslaughter, molesting children, etc, etc......oh, that's right, we're immune from it. It's not quite a shock.

It's a light sentence, ho hum.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:15 PM
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31. Keep in mind, this is the UK--they don't DO life sentences there. Even for killers, often as not.
Edited on Wed Aug-01-07 10:17 PM by MADem
More from THE SUN!!!!!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005062479,00.html

Ain't she a beaut???



A JILTED woman who ripped off her ex-lover’s testicle with her bare hands was today jailed for two and a half years.

Amanda Monti, 24, flew into a rage when 37-year-old Geoffrey Jones rejected her advances at the end of a drunken house party.....He ended his long-term relationship with Monti, who is 5ft 1in tall, towards the end of May last year.

In a letter to the court, Monti said she was sorry for what she had done.

She added: "I am in no way a violent person.

"I have challenged myself to explain what has happened but still I just cannot remember. This has caused much anguish to me and will do for the rest of my life."
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:34 PM
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35. I dunno
looks like she could clean up nice.

So, I'm wondering, Amanda is 5ft 1in tall... how tall is Geoffrey (with a G, Geoffrey)? I mean, is that important?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:43 PM
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36. I think the suggestion is "Isn't it astounding that such a wee lass could, with the strength of two
angry mules, rip off half of a strapping man's tackle!!

Well, the old boy will have to call his jewels the "meat and ONE veg" from here on out!!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:16 PM
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32. And that, children , is why God gave men TWO of them
:evilgrin:
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:26 PM
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34. They were probably laughing too hard
to give a proper sentence.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 10:56 PM
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38. What is your motive for having to look back 3 years to find an article that fits your thesis?
What google terms did you use? +woman +bites +gonads?

You use an anecdotal situation to demonstrate that men get punished more severely for injuring women?

Where's your article to prove your thesis showing that a man got sentenced to life for "removing a woman's ovary?"

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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 11:08 PM
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39. Good catch, Maddy
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HardRocker05 Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 11:11 PM
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40. depends on the context; if a man attacks a woman, his balls are fair game, are they not? nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-01-07 11:14 PM
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41. There are such things as both mitigating and aggravating circumstances....
Edited on Wed Aug-01-07 11:15 PM by BlooInBloo
... I suspect there were more of the prior in this instance. Without details, I don't see what all the hubbub is about.


EDIT: Unless it's just another dickhead who wants to scream "reverse sexism".
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