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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:01 AM
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Just how scared are the right-wingers? Weigh in if you're in the construction biz.
Two new houses have been built, owners are very Republican minded fellows and both are wealthy. So, when someone has all that money, you imagine that their homes are a reflection of their dreams and fears.

First home is built like a fortress. Small windows, heavy concrete and brick on all sides. Even the porch has a brick fence-like border, as if to provide cover. Every inch of that house looks like this guy has more to fear than just hurricanes. My other neighbor and I have exchanged notes that maybe this guy knows something we don't. Does he?

Second home is much nicer construction, but it's a flag lot in a very secluded rural, but tame area. And on the top of his house, he has a crow's nest. It's obviously not a crow's nest like you see on a ship, but it's a small cylindrical tower that juts up about six or more feet from the roof. And when I was there, I happened to notice an ammo box on the floor. I'm thinking, WTF? These people freely admitted that they only watch Fox and won't watch any of the liberal stations.

Anyways, is anyone monitoring this? Are right-wingers being scared into thinking that we're going to be invaded soon?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:04 AM
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1. You don't have to be a Repug to be worried like that,
We're not going to be invaded. It will fall from the top down.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:18 AM
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4. Explain?
What are they worried about? A Waco incident?
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:29 AM
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12. No a nation wide Watts incident like in Rodney King
They believe there is a race war brewing and they want to be protected. They know the poor are getting much poorer faster and that means crime will increase rapidly plus most Republicans are just plain afraid....
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:35 AM
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16. So Charles Manson was right?
Seriously, didn't Manson want to start a race war? Wasn't that his motive for killing people and then sticking the wallets in restrooms in predominately black neighborhoods?

Wingnuts have some spooky ideas.
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BushOut06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:50 AM
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22. Lots of white supremacist groups want to start a race war
Aryan Nations, KKK, National Alliance, White Church of the Creator, etc - a lot of these groups would love to see a full-blown race war. Of course, they're more than willing to serve as the "foot soldiers" in such a war, and wipe out all the "undesirable" races once and for all.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:05 AM
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2. Perhaps they're expecting a zombie outbreak. nt
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:06 AM
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3. LOL
BWWWWWAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:19 AM
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5. That's another thing...
...just how many ways can you turn the plot of a movie into a zombie outbreak? Even the "Lost" writers said they would add a zombie plot if they made it into their seventh year.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:41 AM
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21. Yeah, zombies are trendy right now.
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 09:41 AM by iconoclastic cat
As metaphors go, though, I find it encouraging: As with all literary trends, that Americans are examing some crisis-- in this case, the effects of mindless, ravenous consumerism at the expense of the survival of the human race.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 11:08 AM
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23. Why would they be afraid? Zombies want to eat brains!
Unless they still have theirs MIB (mint, in box condition) ...
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:55 PM
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41. Badda-boom, badda-bing!
It's a beee-yooo-tee-ful thing!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:20 AM
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6. Hey I have one of those
"crows nests" but my ammo is in the barn. ;) We will use ours for other things.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:21 AM
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7. Bet they have bomb shelter as well
all laid out and stocked....
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:34 AM
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14. They call them "wine cellars."
Though I wouldn't mind having one myself, what with all this bad weather.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:22 AM
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8. What? No cannon on the lawn?
No small nuclear weapons?

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:26 AM
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9. They're hidden in the bushes
Disguised to look like ornamental decorations...

;)
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:35 AM
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15. Bushes made of green tinted nylon netting and camouflage colored swatches.
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Parisle Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:26 AM
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10. I would build such a house,....
--- Passive solar & geothermal, of course,... but plenty fortress-like, as well. It's hardly a RW thing. And as far as "what they're expecting?".... it sounds to me that they are simply expecting the unknown. As my gunsmith joked with me a couple of months ago as we were talking about home defense rifles, he picked up a particular gun and said, "This would be a good piece for when things get so bad that,... you know,.... people are running around in the streets."
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:39 AM
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27. "my gunsmith" I've never heard anyone say that before

but then I'm not a gun person. nor do I want to be a gun person.

but in planning for the future I have thought that if things did get bad, dangerous in my neighborhood I would seek ways to protect myself from gun users. which may mean I would need a gun.

I truly hope not.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:43 PM
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32. You know what my dream future home protection is?
A solar-powered outdoor alarm system that will video-tape any movement in the yard, and if it falls within certain parameters, will wake me up so I can run to the control room. Then, with a joystick and computer screen, I'd love to be able to watch the prowler and determine if I need to send them a few laser shots. I just picture my thumb hitting the buttons on the joystick and watch the son of a bitch hot foot it off my property.

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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:51 PM
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35. where do you live?
anbar province?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:08 PM
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37. A vicious Republican property rights municipality.
They steal everything that you don't mark every day.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:27 AM
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11. Be a good neighbor
Assure him that when the U.N. troops show up to take away his guns and burn his Bibles, you will let him hide in your attic.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:37 AM
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17. LOL!
Picturing this guy hiding in my attic is very amusing. Thank you for that one.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:33 AM
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13. why wait for invasion? It's the liberal neighbors who are the real enemy
according to Rush,Dinesh, Glenn and Ann.

We're coming to take his guns! Bwahaaahhaaa!
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:37 AM
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18. My brother-in-law is kind of that mentality
I think it's slacked off since 2000, but he stockpiled a lot of food and ammo in 1999 because of the dreaded millennium bug. When I found out, I told him, "Glen, you live 20 miles away from the largest city in the state (Wichita, Kansas) in the country. Any rampaging mob in the hellish throes of anarchy will run out of steam after five miles, ten tops if they're in good shape."

TlalocW
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:38 AM
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19. Well, in fairness to your brother, Hummers can go 24 miles with one tank.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 09:40 AM
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20. They're afraid of a Prole revolt
That's why we'll see a Dem president in 2008 - our Corporate Masters know it's time to throw the serfs a few bones to quiet the rumblings.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:46 AM
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25. It's 1787, and they know we're running short of cake. n/t
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 09:39 AM
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24. I own ammo boxes, too...not all contain ammo...
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 09:45 AM by benEzra
they're like $5 at the military surplus store, and they are airproof and watertight. We live in hurricane country, so I keep medicines, weather radio, etc. in a few of them (which are labeled as to their contents), and my tow chains are currently sitting in an ammo can as well. Easy to grab and throw in the trunk of the car if you have to evacuate from a bad storm, and everything will stay safe and dry. Most of ours do contain ammo, though (remember that half of gun owners aren't repubs...) :evilgrin:

I don't think you have to be a right-winger to think that a sturdy, hurricane-proof, defensible house is a good thing. The story of the Three Little Pigs comes to mind...

BTW, what area of the country do you live in? Might be a clue to what they're thinking (category 3 to 5 hurricanes are a real threat on the Atlantic and Gulf coasts, not so much in Minnesota). I do know that the aftermath of the devaluation of the Argentine peso wasn't pretty (crime went through the roof, kidnappings, home invasion robberies, etc. skyrocketed, and having a "hard" house and guns was a Really Good Thing in some areas), and that may be on their minds due to the fact that the dollar is pretty vulnerable to a devaluation at the moment.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:08 AM
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26. Thanks for the info!
I hope I win the lottery so I can fortify my house in the appropriate 21 Century manner. But at least I can afford the waterproof, airtight ammo containers! Thank God!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:41 AM
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28. McCastles
Some of the super-duper luxury homes being built now do appear to be ready for fortification.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 11:47 AM
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29. Well, I hope they have a good generator, INSIDE the house.
If it were open warfare, the first thing I'd take out would be the generators. Because I know these pansy-ass wealthy people love their luxuries and they won't last a day without aircondition.
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DaveJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 12:02 PM
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30. They're right to be scared
They are scared because they know that the things they have are not deserved. They realize that if they were in 'our' position and knew about the scams, then they would be very angry. And I guess they think that we haven't waked up to it yet and will soon.

But they don’t realize that we've known about them all along.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:44 PM
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33. I don't think they're willing to admit they were wrong.
They're just sorry that the Democrats have taken over and their offensive style, defensive barrier is gone. I think those sons of bitches really do believe that sacrificing someone else's son on foreign soil is a good idea.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:07 PM
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31. Don't be fooled; just because it looks like a fortress
Edited on Fri Feb-09-07 01:12 PM by Edweird
doesn't mean it is. Wife and I are general contractors in South Florida. All new construction here is cinder block with some concrete. Cinder block has good wind resistance compared to wood frame, but is EASY to compromise with a 5lb sledgehammer. So, unless your neighbor built his house out of SOLID CONCRETE, it's not as much of a fortress as it looks.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:47 PM
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34. Yep. Solid concrete.
Put the cynder blocks down, and then funneled in wet concrete into the holes. Then he put this black paint that someone said was a vinyl covering on the exterior of the house, and then he put bricks up.

It looks like a two story sororiety house. We're all assuming his house number will be displayed using the Greek alphabet.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 02:35 PM
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38. If he used cinder blocks, then it in all likelyhood
isn't solid concrete, it is cinderblock with concrete "columns". There probably will be 2' to 4' gaps in between the "columns" that would be susceptible to sledgehammer. If he used cinder blocks and then filled all of them with concrete he is stupid. It would be cheaper and stronger to form and pour the walls with solid concrete. Another point is the sealant. He wouldn't need it if it his walls were solid concrete. He only needs it because his walls are mostly cinder block which is pourous. So, it sounds like your neighbor may have bought a false sense of security.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:40 PM
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39. That's what I'm suspecting. He bought into a false sense of security.
He hired some builder from out of state and I get the distinct impression that this guy went out of his way not to get "stuck" with any minority own contractors or subcontractors, if you know what I mean.

There is something very peculiar about all of it because the first thing the builder did was go to the next door neighbor and say, "Don't worry, there are no contractors here."

No clue what that means.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 01:51 PM
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36. a few possibilities spring to mind:
1. they believe in the rapture, but know they aren't good enough people to be part of it.
2. they're worried about the imminent overthrow of the united states by our secret homegrown hordes of muslim terrorists
3. it's all about the black UN helicopters
4. they're batshit crazy
5. 1 and 4, 2 and 4, 3 and 4, or 4 and 4 and 4.
6. all of the above. especially 5.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 03:53 PM
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40. Just walk around the perimeter of his property taking notes
If he comes out and asks why, tell him a bunch of guys gave you $100 to figure out the best 'angle of approach' to his house.

Oh, and a couple of guys came by last week and were wondering if you knew whether his crow's nest was armored or just wood construction, but you told them you weren't sure. Is there steel in there?

Might as well just push him over the edge and see what he comes up with next.

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