BRAD BLOG 'Full of Shit' Says Diebold Marketeer; Aftershocks of CA's E-Voting Earthquake; MORE...

[BradBlog]

From the look of things, the Voting Machine Companies, and the Elections Officials who sadly continue to enable, apologize and lie on their behalf, are up against it these days. Finally. At least if today's notable BRAD BLOG articles are any indication... -- Brad

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Diebold Distributor Tells BRAD BLOG 'You Are Totally Full of Shit'
Comments That We Are 'Deluded', 'Paranoid', 'Looney Idealogues' and that Voting Machines Are Not the 'Cause of Our Problems, It's the People'
Challenges Us to a Debate...We Accept...

In a late comment posted just this morning, in reply to the article and photos about my recent visit to Diebold in Texas, a person claiming to be Ken Hajjar, the Director of Sales and Marketing for one of Diebold's New England distributors believes I am "totally full of shit"

His comment begins, "Dear Brad, you are totally full of shit. I used to think that all of the looney idealogues were on the right. There are just as many on the left and you are one of them," and goes on to call me "paranoid" and "deluded" from there, while shooting himself in the face concerning his own argument (with which we agree, though not as he meant it) that "It's not the machines that are the cause of our problems, it's the people."

He also then challenges me to a public debate, which I accept...If he's still interested after my well-evidenced, and perhaps decimating, reply to his silly, ill-conceived screed...

HAJJAR'S COMPLETE ILL-CONCEIVED SCREED, MY BRILLIANT REPLY:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4940

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Columnist: 'Whining' California Election Registrars are 'Losers, Exposed as Careless at Best, Irresponsible at Worst'
Says Were it Not for Debra Bowen's Victory Last November, We Wouldn't Know About 'Corruptible' Voting Machines Rubber-Stamped by Her Predecessor Bruce McPherson...

Once again, in a world of horrible reporting and irresponsible journalists, willing to pass on discredited, unevidenced sour grapes from Election Officials and Voting Machine Company spokesliars, it's syndicated columnist Tom Elias who cuts through the crap and tells the truth about those "loser" Officials.

COMPLETE ARTICLE: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4941

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CA's E-Voting Earthquake: Aftershocks Felt in Kentucky as State's AG Takes On Voting Machine Companies in Light of California's Demand to Correct Faulty, Insecure Systems
LETTER: AG Stumbo Demands Same Protections from Diebold and Hart InterCivic for His State as Demanded by Debra Bowen In California
While KY's 'Do-Nothing' Secretary of State Wants To Do Nothing...

In terse letters sent to voting machine companies Diebold and Hart Intercivic (letters posted in full at link below), KY Attorney General Gregory D. Stumbo demanded that the companies "immediately implement in Kentucky all modifications and security upgrades necessary to correct the vulnerabilities identified by California."...

FULL REPORT, LETTERS TO DIEBOLD & HART:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4933

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Kucinich Says Legal Action May Need to be Taken Against Voting Machine Companies
On Election Integrity Program Says 'There Might Be a Legal Basis For A Lawsuit That Deals With Denying The Right To Vote'...

The subject was voting machines, the vendors, and the voters, and Kucinich raised the possibility that the recent studies done on such systems in California might be the basis of a lawsuit to throw out "that technology." He said felt that legal action, in this instance, may be a faster route than waiting on Congress to act...

FULL REPORT, AUDIO OF INTERVIEW:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4936

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VIDEO: Bush Questions Why He Would Hold Alberto Gonzales Accountable
Says Congress Has Not Said Attorney General Guilty Of Any Wrongdoing

Yup. That's what he said...

VIDEO: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4938

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Waxman Tells Impeachment Advocates He'll 'Keep an Open Mind'
Progressive Democrats of Los Angeles Lobby for Accountability in Meeting with Chairman of House Oversight Committee...

Marcy Winograd, former Democratic candidate for the U.S. House and President of the Progressive Democrats of Los Angeles (PDLA), sent the following e-mail missive to PDLA members earlier today describing a meeting on Tuesday with Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA), the chairman of the House Oversight Committee.

The conversation regarding Impeachment, the Congressman's views on same, and the arguments made by the activists in favor of it are interesting and offer some insight into both Waxman's thinking at this moment and, undoubtedly, that of many other House Democrats who clearly are seeing things differently from inside the Beltway than those of us outside of it.

We can only hope that all U.S. House and Senate members are getting such an earful now that they're on recess and back in their home districts. Here's Winograd's instructive report in full...

FULL REPORT: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4937

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Brad Friedman
Publisher/Editor, The BRAD BLOG
http://www.BradBlog.com

[BeFree]

1. Heh

Diebold is bleeding. Good work Brad!

[BuyingThyme]

2. Go BradBlog!!

(And nice work on PBC.)

[iconoclastic cat]

3. BradBlog is my mom's favorite blog!

And she's probably really furious now...

[rosesaylavee]

4. I take it the

Newshour and Countdown didn't call yet. :(

Any response from the plant in Texas where you took the pictures?

[BradBlog]

14. You take it correctly...

Haven't heard from either. Though, as you can see, Diebold's proxy in New England was kind enough to drop me his regards :-)

[rosesaylavee]

21. How very very nice of him.

Very hospitable.

[biscotti]

5. Thanks Brad

You are a real trooper. Keep pounding them. You have been on top of this and working on it for a very long time. It is appreciated.

[hunter]

6. That'd be an honest advertising slogan for their machines: "Full of Shit!"

:P

[Richard Steele]

11. Even though 52% of us attempted to select the "roses" option. nm

[BradBlog]

15. :-)

Too funny, dicksteele.

[Richard Steele]

17. Hiya, Brad!

:hi:

We've all seen, time and again, just exactly who's
"full of shit" on the issue of these machines. And
it's not you.

You don't really think this guy is dumb enough to show
up to DEBATE you, do ya? :rofl:

[BradBlog]

22. Hiya back!

Is dumb enough to show up to debate me? If he's dumb enough to post what he did, he's dumb enough to do anything. Unless, of course, it turns out he was...(wait for it)...really full of shit!

[pinto]

7. Richard Hasen (LA Times Op-ed) in support of Bowen's decision:

E-voting paranoia, or the right course?

Debra Bowen's decision to decertify voting machines in 39 counties may help restore public confidence in elections.

By Richard L. Hasen
August 7, 2007

Is California Secretary of State Debra Bowen an out-of-control state official whose unwarranted fear about the security of electronic voting machines caused her to make a rash decision Friday to decertify voting systems in 39 counties and send California's presidential primary into turmoil? Or is she a heroine who has saved California from the specter of "hacked" elections and whose only fault is not going far enough in barring all electronic voting machines?

In truth, Bowen is neither the overzealous bureaucrat that county election officials have painted her as, nor is she the savior of American democracy, as some voting reform advocates have claimed. Instead, she has made a reasonable decision about how to reform the state's system for conducting elections, in light of voters' concerns about the security of electronic voting equipment and given the system of overlapping federal, state and local control of federal elections.

<snip>

But such criticism misses the main point. Large segments of the public have lost confidence in the security of electronic voting systems. Although we may trust our county election officials (who generally have stellar reputations), the fear is that electronic voting machines might be hacked without the knowledge of these officials. You can't stop ballot-box stuffing you don't see.

<snip>

Now, more than six years after the Florida debacle that had the fate of the presidency depending upon how to count a "hanging chad," we are still debating the best way to cast and count votes. Bowen's decision was a reasonable option for moving toward a fair system that will keep the public's trust.

Richard L. Hasen is a professor specializing in election law at Loyola Law School.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-hasen7aug07,1,2349336.story

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. DIEB-THROAT...gotta love that one! Your response IS brilliant.

I bet he never debates you though. His kind are all talk.

Great job!

[djp2]

9. State Governments Unite

This is the only way to defeat what is happening in Washington, 1 state a a time. We need o get the states to buck the current trends from Washington.

Maybe we'll can find a State Governor who will publicly announce that he will not allow their state National Guard to be deployed by Bush to another state in case of a "disaster" or other "national Emergency".

Remember, in China, the Tiananmen Square protest in 1989, it was troops from out of the area who would fire on the protesters when the local Guard refused. I can see Bush taking the Guard from a distant state away from the "emergency" to enforce "control"(meaning "Obedience") in that area.

[MasonJar]

10. Good for you, Greg Stumbo!!! Hallelujah!!!! I hope every state follows suit.

[robinlynne]

12. Brad, if you need some supporters at that debate, we'd love to help!

[BradBlog]

16. Thanks, robinlynne!

We're all in this meess together! Always happy for any help from anybody! :-)

[BradBlog]

31. As an update...

...The SAVE R VOTE group in Riverside County, CA has offered to host the debate. Details here:
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=4940#comment-248305

Though our friend Kan Hajjar from LHS Associates has yet to respond in any way. Could it be the man who said I was "full of shit" and challenged me to a debate is actually...Full of shit himself instead? Nah...couldn't be. Right?

[broadcaster]

13. so why does Diebold file suits to keep their code secret...

and not available to audit?

Diebold needs to be subject to an SEC investigation for fraud and shut down.

imho.

[JeffR]

18. Rock on, Brad

Coming from these people, that's pretty high praise!

[Jim Sagle]

19. Then they fight you, then you win.

:thumbsup:

[Warren DeMontague]

20. Hmmm. Sounds like all this stuff is hitting a nerve. Good. In case I've never said so before, Brad

you are a Great American. Truly. :patriot:

And we're all very proud of Debra Bowen, too.

[BillORightsMan]

23. About Kucinich and Legal Action

Last summer Mike Papantonio (from Ring of Fire on Air America) filed a Qui Tam* lawsuit against one of the voting machine manufacturers (he wouldn't say which one because the lawsuit was sealed).

Reference http://rangevoting.org/DieboldSuit.html">Blowing the Whistle on Diebold @ www.InTheseTimes.org

He mentioned that the AG had six weeks ON EDIT 60 days to take the case (and then unseal it). If the AG declined, Pap could then run with it. I've emailed Ring of Fire several times and get the same response from his law office:

We are not allowed to comment on the suit.

Brad, do you know what is going on with this? Are Pap & Bobby still pursuing this? Anybody?
Good on Dennis to breach the subject! Dennis needs to re-introduce H.R. 6200 Hand Counted Paper Ballots soon!

GREAT WORK BRAD! And it was great speaking with you on the Peter B. Collins show last Friday!
:applause:

imbillorightsmanandiapprovethismessage
:patriot:
(aka "Bill in Cleveland")
www.BillORightsMan.com



*Qui Tam @ wiki
Qui tam is a legal provision in the United States under the False Claims Act, 31 U.S.C. § 3729 et seq.), which allows for a private individual, or whistleblower with knowledge of past or present fraud committed against the U.S. federal government to bring suit on its behalf. Its name is an abbreviation of the Latin phrase “qui tam pro domino rege quam pro se ipso in hoc parte sequitur”, meaning “he who sues for the king as well as for himself." This provision allows a private person, known as a “relator,” to bring a lawsuit on behalf of the United States, where the private person has information that the named defendant has knowingly submitted or caused the submission of false or fraudulent claims to the United States. The relator need not have been personally harmed by the defendant’s conduct.

[BradBlog]

27. ..And legal action...

"Brad, do you know what is going on with this? Are Pap & Bobby still pursuing this?"

They are. That's about all I'm able to report at this time.

And thanks for calling into the show last week, BilloRightsMan! (Was that last week? Seems a coupla months ago already!) :-)

[Maestro]

24. Like you point out, that dipshit

admitted that voting using those damn machines is not a good idea because as we believe they are hackable beyond belief and not secure and like he believes people make too many mistakes using them. Either way, let's go back to paper ballots!

You done good!

[RushIsRot]

25. I have the perfect response and it's a bumper sticker:

DIEBOLD:
Deciding elections,
So you don't have to.

[Nutmegger]

26. BradBlog -

:yourock: !!!

R&K for BradBlog!

[DCKit]

28. Wow. When the manager of my condo lies to me

It's understood that he's full of shit. But he never gets abusive or calls me a "tin-hat" to my face.

"Thou dost protest too much" doesn't even begin to encompass the crimes these folks have committed and the louder, more shrill they become, the more I am comforted with the thought "yeah, I was right."

[dailykoff]

29. Don't get on any small planes, Brad

especially not any chartered by Diebold and co.

[marions ghost]

30. kick

[Kurovski]

32. K&R

Thanks, Brad.