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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:45 PM
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World Health Organization stance on Gardisil
Just to throw out that someone yesterday was saying that the figures of saving 1300 women a year was not worthy of the cost of the vaccine.
According to the World Health Organization (this isn't a fringe group) they state that worldwide HALF A MILLION WOMEN A YEAR DEVELOP CERVICAL CANCER and HALF of those DIE.
That is 250,000 women A YEAR that will die of cervical cancer.
Is that worth the $400 bucks the vaccine costs?



http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/85/2/07-020207/en/index.html

Since last year, it has become possible to vaccinate against the human papillomavirus (HPV) that causes most cases of cervical cancer, but countries face tough decisions before making the vaccine widely available.

The excitement surrounding the HPV vaccine is not surprising given that half a million women a year develop cervical cancer and half of those die as a result.

But the HPV vaccine is no magic bullet: it has the potential to substantially reduce the prevalence of cervical cancer, but not to eradicate it. Now that an HPV vaccine is already on the market, while a second is expected to receive regulatory approval soon, health professionals and health-care policymakers face tough decisions.

Questions such as ‘who should get the vaccine and at what age?’, ‘how to include HPV vaccination in a comprehensive cervical cancer control programme?’ and ‘which sustainable funding mechanisms should be in place?’ are just the start.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:50 PM
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1. No one is saying you CAN'T have the medicine.
What people are saying is that they don't want people such as you forcing them to pay for and inject their children with the medicine.

If you want the medicine, fine go pay for it and get it. It is available. But stop trying to force a law REQUIRING ME to pay for it and inject it into people I love.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:54 PM
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2. what part of "opt-out" did you miss?
The mandatory wording of the order was for making insurance cover it. You don't want it? OPT OUT, but don't try to make it less likely thaqt anyone else can get it by trying to take away the mandatory language.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:59 PM
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4. Many drugs are covered by insurance without making it mandatory for everyone
to take the drugs.

Forcing a law saying everyone has to take this drug inorder that insurance will cover it, is bullshit.

If the drug is beneficial, then make the case to the insurance industry, don't make it to the courts and force every American to have to either take the drug or go and file papers to opt out of taking the drug.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:08 PM
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7. Well I am sure that insurance companies are going to bend over backwards
to accommodate this request to pay for a vaccine that is almost $400. They won't even cover my allergy medicine that costs $25.:eyes:
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:54 PM
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3. Who is forcing YOU to pay for anything??
Since when do progressives object to taxes being used for the greater good?
I want insurance companies, Medicaid, and states to pay for this vaccine for all women who want the vaccine.
Stop the hype. NOBODY advocated FORCING the people you love to have this vaccine. OPT out for God's sakes and leave the hysterical speech behind.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:05 PM
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5. This irrational fear of being forced to take it just blows my mind.
I am so sick of these threads. I think *I* will "opt out" of the discussion now. :eyes:
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:08 PM
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8. Merek wants everyone to take the drug
that is why they are spending so much on lobbyists to get laws on the books making it mandatory.

If there is any hype, it is from people who are pushing this new drug Merek is in the middle of testing. It is a very new drug just recently given a bright shiny gold medal by BushCo's FDA. Millions of dollars have been given to GOPers to establish laws making the drug mandatory.

And you trust and and want everyone to have it.
I just want it availabe for people such as yourself who believe it is a miracle cure. I don't trust it and feel it is way too soon and too much lobbyist money is behind it. It is available. That is good enough.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:11 PM
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9. Please cite instances where people are being held down against their will
to take this drug?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:18 PM
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10. What? That is nuts
Cite instances where people are being held down against their will


is your response to my statement of I don't want this Merek drug to become mandatory?

If you want the bright shiny new Merek drug, go get it.

I don't trust it and don't believe we should put a law on the books making a brand new heavy lobbyist pushed drug mandatory.

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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:27 PM
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12. Hey, how do you do that box quote thingy?
Edited on Thu Feb-08-07 01:28 PM by AngryAmish
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:23 PM
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11. If you're so angry at Merck....
Why don't you learn to spell the company's name. It's not "Merek."
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:31 PM
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13. If I am angry, it is not at a drug company
but at the idiocy of people pushing for mandatory laws for brand new drugs. Millions of dollars are being given to GOP politicians by a drug company in exchange those politicians put laws on the books requiring people take the drug.

I am not in favor of such a practice and feel such drugs are highly suspect. If they where the wonder drug they are being hyped to be, people would be flocking to their door.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:06 PM
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6. K & R
The "only-1300-will-die" rationale for torpedoing this vaccine is :puke:
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