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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:02 PM
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Pentagon's using funding request aimed at supporting troops to seek money for new, unproven weapons
February 8, 2007

Weapons that aren't ready dot Bush's war budget

WASHINGTON: President Bush's proposed war budget includes many high-cost weapons that won't be operational for years, using a funding request aimed at supporting the troops to seek money for some of the Pentagon's favorite projects. The president's war package seeks $400 million this year alone to fund a pair of F-35 fighters, even though the new model of plane won't be ready for combat until at least 2010. It also contains $74 million to begin designing a spy plane that won't be tested for two years. In the war budget, the Pentagon listed the planes among the costs of "reconstituting the force" -- that is, replacing equipment lost in battle. The administration requested more than $51 billion in such replacement spending for the rest of this year and next. In 2005, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that the price tag for replacing equipment lost in Iraq would be no more than $8 billion each year. The war has escalated since the CBO estimate, but analysts say Bush's request strikes them as disproportionately high. "There are a number of reasons to be suspicious" that programs requested as war spending may not go to the war, said Steve Kosiak , a defense budget specialist at the nonpartisan Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington. "Reconstitution costs have really jumped. That's a big question mark." Pentagon officials stressed to Congress this week that the funding is needed to buy ammunition, communications gear, and other equipment in high demand in the field. They said the funds would also replace armored vehicles, helicopters, and other aircraft that have been lost. Nonetheless, independent budget analysts expressed concern that the Pentagon is seeking extra dollars for non-Iraq-specific projects that have either spiraled in cost or are facing constraints in the regular defense budget. They said that only a handful of planes have been lost in the war and that the president's request goes well beyond replacing those aircraft. For example, they said, only three F-16 fighters have crashed during the war, but the president is asking for a dozen F/A-18 fighter jets . Other requests include 22 new C-130J Hercules cargo planes; seven new V-22 Osprey transport aircraft; and six copies of a new plane called the Growler that jams radar and that made its first test flight in August, according to Pentagon budget documents. Some of the Pentagon documents sent to Congress this week to justify the war budget were labeled "shopping list." Analysts raised particular concerns about the nearly $300 million requested for the problem-plagued Osprey, which has never been used in combat. Boeing has yet to deliver an operational version of aircraft, designed to take off vertically like a helicopter but fly like a plane. The 2006 annual report by the Pentagon's top weapon evaluator said the Osprey remains plagued by "frequent part and system failures." "They have a whole appropriation for the V-22 Osprey," said Laura Peterson , a senior policy analyst at Taxpayers for Common Sense. "That is not something that has been deployed in theater before, so there is no reason for it to be included in a war budget." The war budget includes at least one new program. The Pentagon is seeking $74 million for "design, development, integration, and testing" of the first "Global Observer," envisioned to be an unmanned spy plane with "long endurance." The Pentagon plans to ask for funds for the project every year at least through 2013. Analysts say the proposal may have merit, but can't be justified as part of the war budget. Some of the requests can be traced to a little-noted decision by the Pentagon last fall to expand the definition of war costs.


http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/08/news/web.0208.globeweapons.php
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:37 PM
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1. More nonsense from the Globe...
Not everything consumed in the war is necessarily shot down. Wearing out counts, and there are a number of key assets that are indeed wearing out. Lets take the example cited of the Growler, or more properly the F18-G.

The only current standoff jamming platform in the US inventory is the aging EA-6B Prowler. Most of the airframes are aging out (lifetime flight hour and carrier landing limits), and its not practical or cost effective to build new airframes. Most of its avionics are modular and carried in external pods, and have been continuously updated over the years. The Growler was started some time ago and was designed to carry the same pods as the Prowler. Its based on a fielded and well known Super Hornet airframe (F-18F). Its not a "new development" or an untried system. Moreover, if the DoD was foolish enough to try and buy *new* EA-6Bs it would take longer for delivery and cost more.

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 02:20 PM
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2. what I would highlight . . .
"There are a number of reasons to be suspicious" that programs requested as war spending may not go to the war . . ."
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 03:15 PM
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3. Anything bought now, unless its munitions, would most likely not go to the war anyway
but replace items damaged/destroyed/worn out in the war.

- Osprey replace older helo
- Gorwler replaces the Prowler
- Super Hornets replacing older Hornets

I would not surprise me that there are a few shady items in there...but not just put there by the DoD. Pork knows no limits and pols have no honor.
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