Finally the anti-Chavez crowd at DU has found a kindred spirit

[happydreams]

It's "Kindasleazy" Rice!



"I believe there is an assault on democracy in Venezuela and I believe that there are significant human rights issues in Venezuela," Rice told lawmakers at a congressional hearing. "I do believe that the president of Venezuela is really, really destroying his own country, economically, politically."


Despite her comments Rice said she wanted to avoid getting into "a rhetorical contest" with Chavez. She said the United States has traditionally had good relations with Venezuela and would like to have them in the future.

<snip>

Venezuela has vowed to strip some of the world's biggest oil companies of controlling stakes in oil projects of the country's Orinoco Belt by May 1.

The pledge, which affects firms such as Chevron, Exxon Mobil, Conoco Phillips, Statoil and BP Plc, forms a vital part of the nationalizations at the heart of his revolution in Venezuela.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070207/pl_nm/venezuela_usa...


Please add your comments.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. Talk About Your Simplistic Minded Threads. Wow.

:eyes:

[happydreams]

3. Please expand our minds mindcrime.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

4. Well For One, Not Posting Small Minded Flame Bait That Attempts To Attack And Smear Characters Of

ANYONE on DU who has a differing opinion than you on Chavez through false association, would be a start.

Your thread is an example of the weakest form of argument there is.

[BornagainDUer]

12. Delete

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

15. Since By We You Are Talking About You And Someone Else, Maybe You Are. I Dunno.

:shrug:

But as far as the premise of attacking and criticizing the characters of entire groups of people on DU merely because they have a different opinion on something is most definitely something that every single legitimate DU'er here should oppose as something that's ignorant, of simple mindedness, weak and unproductive.

I mean, you don't think these are respectful tactics, do you?

[happydreams]

20. Yea, but Kindasleazy is with you on Chavez. You gotta

admit that much. :evilgrin:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

24. Well Since Condi Is Also A Narrow Minded Ignoramus, Looks Like

you have more in common with her than I do...

[Gabi Hayes]

5. heh. heh. btw, do you have that thread from Latest on this? there weren't

many, if any, of the usual suspects contaminating that one, last I saw.

and, have you seen a more ironic paragraph than the first one in the OP? I mean, seriesly......

[w4rma]

2. Her focus on Venezuela is all for those big oil companies' profits. (nt)

[saigon68]

She likes to kill different guys who don't wear Towels on their heads

And WHO HAVE OIL

[Alexander]

6. This is flamebait nonsense.

So, because I don't support Chavez's overreaching authoritarian socialism means that I support overreaching authoritarian corporatist-fascism?

Is "neither" or "libertarian" an option, or does this bizarre hyperbolic flamebait exist only in your fantasy world?

This reminds me of those "Who do you support, Bush or Saddam Hussein?" questions that the Freepers like to ask. It's easily as ridiculous.

Take some Logic 101, then try again, pal.

[BornagainDUer]

11. Delete

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

21. Why'd You Run Away From Both Of Your Nonsenical Attacks? What Happened That Made You Change Your

mind?

[UTUSN]

7. Notice how your anti-democratic/totalitarian schema works:

1- Anybody who will not participate in your cult/idolatry of Saints Hugo/Fidel/Che/AMLO must be demonized. Notice, if I attack HUGO, you personally attack ME (not my beliefs) with name-calling as in your o.p., OR "DLC/CORPORATIST".

2- For the record, it is UNDEMOCRATIC to participate in royalty-love, personality CULTISM, placing a HUMAN in a SUPERhuman position. And Venezuela (and Iraq, for that matter) are perfectly FINE WITH ME if they want to "elect" a fucking asshole for life. Fine with me. If I were Venezuelan I would GET THE FUCK OUT. Life is too short to spend it under the thrall of a JERKOFF A-HOLE!!1

Hugo and his -istas have a POWERful totalitarian bent. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck---------IT'S A DAMNED DUCK!!1

[Colobo]

14. 100% correct

Let it be Pinochet or Castro; totalitarian rule doesn't work.

[Gabi Hayes]

18. let me guess....you haven't read this, as your ignorance of the info contained

here is manifest in your silly post:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2720967&mesg_id=2722456

[happydreams]

26. No, No. I just pointed out the common ground the anti-Chavez

people at DU have with Kindasleazy. You gotta admit its true. :evilgrin:

[happydreams]

27. No, No. I just pointed out the common ground the anti-Chavez

people at DU have with Kindasleazy. You gotta admit its true. :evilgrin:

[Cleita]

8. Yeah, the assault on Venezuela's democracy is the one coming from

from her and the Bush administration in the future if they can get away with it. Go buy shoes Condi. Your credibility is down the gutter after all the lies you have told.

[oldtimecanuk]

9. It would seem that either your link is'nt working...

or has already been removed...... Sorry, the page you requested was not found.

ww

[cynatnite]

10. Vindictive little thread you've got here...

Those who don't like Chavez are with Condi Rice. Nice. :eyes:

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

13. Oh, for crissakes...

I don't get what the big deal is on here about Chavez. Yes, it's true that while on the one hand he's done a lot for his people, on the other hand he sometimes resorts to tactics that by normal American standards are incredibly arrogant and/or heavy-handed.

Hugo Chavez does not behave anything like what we should expect from an American president. But that's a useless standard, because he isn't the POTUS, and he never will be. Hugo Chavez is the president of Venezuela, which has a completely different social and political culture. If Chavez conducted all his business with the courtesy and openness with which our leaders are supposed to act, he'd probably be overthrown inside of a week.

[w4rma]

16. Oil. That's why there is so much focus on Venezuela. Folks trying to drum up support for a coup. nt

[Colobo]

17. Right wingers in Chile and Argentina

Use more or less the same argument to defend their heroes Pinochet, Videla, Galtieri and Viola...

[w4rma]

22. I haven't seen anything that Chavez has done that is anywhere close to as heavy handed as what those

mass murderers did. I don't even see the potential there for it from Chavez.

In fact, I don't think Chavez has been heavy handed at all. He's had humongous support from the people there. Tactically speaking, why would he want to be heavy handed when he doesn't need to be?

[Gabi Hayes]

23. you forgot Bolivia, and what the fascists and their rabid US corporate supporters

have wrought there, and are trying to do once again, as we speak.

It's all about "privatizing" everything, including RAINWATER.

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[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

19. Shhhhh. You Don't Wanna Upset The Chavez Worshipping Cult....

[Fenris]

25. Locking.

This is clearly flamebait.