Our Own Stupidity?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Just caught a second of Faux News and heard Krauthammer say:

"The Democrats are supporting Hillary not because of anything the Republicans or Rove
are saying {pushing her as frontrunner} but because of their own stupidity. She is
a flawed candidate."

[JFN1]

1. I agree with

one thing he said - "The Democrats" -- but that's about it.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

4. Well, this may be the very first time I've agreed 100% with

Faux News. Up is down, white is black - bizzaro world.

[SteppingRazor]

2. Wait, so ... she's a flawed candidate, but Democrats are stupid for not supporting her.

:crazy:

[Laura PourMeADrink]

3. thanks. I corrected my syntax

[StClone]

5. So they elect Bush/Cheney/Rove etal

And Dems are stupid...paleeze Krauthammer...I'll live with Hillary you may die with Bush.

[acmavm]

7. The three you mentioned are not flawed. They are vicious criminals.

I'll take 'flawed' over them anytime.

[emilyg]

8. So will I. Anytime.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

6. Even if she were flawed, and who isn't, she is light years ahead of

the bozo that has had the purse strings, the reigns and a dictatorial attitude for the last 6 years. By the present residents track record, Hillary or anyone else could walk on water, or at least keep it out of New Orleans.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090102261.html
Critics Say Bush Undercut New Orleans Flood Control

By Jim VandeHei and Peter Baker
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, September 2, 2005; Page A16

President Bush repeatedly requested less money for programs to guard against catastrophic storms in New Orleans than many federal and state officials requested, decisions that are triggering a partisan debate over administration priorities at a time when the budget is strained by the Iraq war.

Even with full funding in recent years, none of the flood-control projects would have been completed in time to prevent the swamping of the city, as Democrats yesterday acknowledged. But they said Bush's decision to hold down spending on fortifying levees around New Orleans reflected a broader shuffling of resources -- to pay for tax cuts and the Iraq invasion -- that has left the United States more vulnerable.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. "Who isn't" ? Everyone has lower disapproval ratings than she

does - that's the point - you don't put someone out there who's already deep in the hole. Because they'll get more shit on them during the campaign and end up deeper than before...

[Parche]

9. Flawed Candidate

The new Republican phrase word of the day....look for this phrase at your local market, in the
candy aisle..............

They are nothing but 'flawed phrases'


Doesnt Krathammer look like death warmed over? :hi:

[spanone]

10. one thing you've gotta give the thugs, they rarely think for themselves.

they repeat written phases over & over like parrots

[depakid]

11. As is almost always the case, Krauthammer doesn't get it

Hillary's support in the party comes largely because she's the only heavyweight with name recognition in the race.

As such, her support may look to be a mile wide in "polls" and in the corporate media- but on main street- it's an inch deep and would evaporate in a NY minute were Al Gore to throw his hat into the ring.

[bluerum]

12. So thats all they got? "She is a flawed candidate"? Well,,, I suppose

they are starting early enough so that all the echo chambers (empty thought free heads) will be reverberating that by 11/08.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

13. I agree. We Dems fucked up twice. Do we need a third? nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Second that !

[Sarah Ibarruri]

17. Thanks! And I LOVE your screen name! lol nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

19. thanks - it really made a lot of sense when back at the

beginning - right after Nov 2004 when any minute many of us thought they'd find out asshat was a crook, stole the election, and he'd be forced out of the WH.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

22. I know what you mean. Me, I cried.

I cried throughout this retarded serial killer's administrations because we Dems were so hardheaded and obtuse that we kept messing everything up. :(

[The Vinyl Ripper]

16. Color me flabbergasted...

Krauthammer said something I agree with.

Hillary is a flawed candidate and the Democrats are stupid to give her the support she's getting.

She is flawed in that there is a large percentage of the American population who wouldn't vote for her to save their own souls and would jump out of the ICU to vote against her.

And another goodly portion who will stay home on election day if she is the nominee.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

21. Yes. She is flawed. Doesn't mean she's a bad person... in fact....

She's beautiful, she's brilliant, she's funny, I wish I had 1 iota of her charm. The woman is everything every intelligent woman wants to be. However, she has had epithets hurled at her for decades by the right wing. The GOP will wipe their hands on her if she is the Dem candidate. The GOP won't even have to dig up swiftboat lying shitheads in her case. The epithets are ALREADY THERE for their use, the entire nation has heard them and seen her dragged through the coals!

Are we angry that the Repukes did this to her? YES. But angry or not, she cannot run and win. She's a handicapped candidate. It would be like having an Olympic ski champion skier become an amputee in a car accident, but insisting on having him compete in the Olympics anyway because we STILL love him so much.

And once again, how many times do I need to say it? We live in a highly sexist and racist country. This country is NOT egalitarian. Maybe one day when we're all dead it will be. NOT NOW. Women here are STILL struggling to get paid an equal wage. The last studies show that women are making 1/3 to 1/2 less than a man of the same qualifications in the same job. The media portrays us as prostitutes with balloons in our chest. And somebody thinks this country is going to elect a woman for PRESIDENT?

I don't think the poor, the children, the old, the disabled, the uneducated, the minorities can STAND ONE MORE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENCY. I swear to God I don't think this country can handle it. IT CANNOT.

I don't even know how else to pray that the Dems will be illuminated somehow and pick a candidate that is not a complete disaster, a candidate that will get the MAJORITY of votes, a candidate that does not have albatrosses around her/his neck, a candidate that does not have drawbacks. I'm very desperate, afraid and depressed all at the same time that we Dems are going to once again FUCK IT UP.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

23. perfectly stated ! My ringwingnut inlaws would walk on

broken glass all the way to the voting booth to vote against her. Actually, they said they wouldn't mind it if Richardson won.

This is our chance. Maybe one of the few. Where changing the world could be in our hands. With a House and Senate majority and a Dem in the WH - just think about what we can do. We have GOT to think beyond - to what we can accomplish - health care ! stopping the war - helping the poor - getting rid of the poison they have allowed to pollute the land, air and water. We can not take the chance to blow this opportunity. Anyone of our other choices would be better.

[The Vinyl Ripper]

24. Hillary is smart, I'll give you that..

I don't dislike her personally but I feel that she is entirely too far into the pockets of the corporate donors.

Her socialized medicine plan was a disaster that combined the worst aspects of our current russian roulette medical system with the worst aspects of socialized medicine as practiced in other countries. Any system that leaves the insurance companies in the loop is eventually going to be a catastrophe for the citizens.

Clinton was great on economic policy and definitely good on foreign policy.

On domestic policy, not so much.

NAFTA, greatly expanding the drug war and "reforming" welfare were just three of the things that really made it hard for me to be a Clinton fan.

That Hillary refuses to admit her IWR vote was a mistake makes me very skeptical of her too.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

25. Forget the corporate donors

The problem is not even the corporate donors anymore. It's that she is not electable. I'm very afraid of having another Republican president.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. look at this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1629555

[alarimer]

18. Better a flawed Democratic candidate than a criminal Republican candidate

Any Democrat is more sane, more capable, less fascist, and will appoint more rational people to the Supreme Court

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. missing point - Right - but only if that flawed candidate can win.