Not Our Kind of People/"I don't want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds..."

[theaudacity]

According to a congressman's wife who attended a Republican women's luncheon yesterday, Karl Rove explained the rationale behind the president's amnesty/open-borders proposal this way: "I don't want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas."

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTZhZDdiYmJlNDViYTAwOWExNmUyMmQ5ODlmMWYwYTU=



:kick: (I am posting Republican trash talk from THE NATIONAL REVIEW... The glory days are finally upon us):dem:

[MADem]

1. Ah, by their very words we shall know them!!! NT

[Warpy]

2. Just what we need in this world, another prissy suit who thinks

he's far superior to everyone in the world who works for a living and allows his sorry self to survive.

Too bad his MBA won't be contingent on surviving two years in a slaughterhouse or as a migrant farm laborer. He'd have more appreciation for the world if it did.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

3. Those kinds of jobs are beneath the dignity of a 17-year-old

and so are jobs like
delivering pizza
flipping burgers
mowing lawns
working in a factory
throwing boxes into a UPS truck
cleaning bedpans
nailing shingles
babysitting

I wonder what kind of job is suitable for Rove's 17-year-old. Ambassador to France?

Rove needs to do a few weeks of rehab. Maybe him & Biden can get a group rate.

[lyonn]

6. Throwing boxes into an UPS truck, humm, my grandson

does just that and hopes like hell some immigrant doesn't take his job. He is attending college also and Needs the job.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

14. That's pretty much what I was getting at ...

Rove's examples of picking tomatoes and making beds are good examples of jobs that college students can do to get a little money for books, tuition, food, beer, the essentials of education.

And they can be careers or starter jobs for citizens, if they pay a competitive wage.

[noamnety]

4. But he wants his son to be able to eat tomatoes

and sleep in a bed that's been made if he goes to a hotel, no doubt.

k&R

[Mz Pip]

5. THe full article is interesting

The author takes Rove to task for the comment. He argues that Rove's son would be well served if he spent some time picking tomatoes or working in a hotel.

My Dad made the same point to me 40 years ago. I was not a particularly motivated student so my Dad had me get a job for the summer in a local factory. He told me that this is what I would be doing if I did not get a college education. I worked swing shift working on machines that made the spray tops for cans. Tedious, boring work. Noisy, monotonous, low paying.

Two things happened. I went to college. I also developed an appreciation for people who worked at these jobs year after year. Perhaps if Rove himself had spent a bit of time at a low paying menial job, he would have more respect for people who are not given the same opportunities in life that he's had.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[murielm99]

7. When I was in college,

one of my friends had a strange item sitting on her desk. It was a little square of plastic with fiberboard and wires attached.

I asked her what it was. She told me that it was a radio part she had assembled in her factory job over the summer. She kept it on her desk to remind herself that that is what she could be doing for the rest of her life if she did not finish school.

[kitkat65]

9. A friend of mine has a similar story regarding her brothers.

Her dad was a lawyer and he would set up jobs for her brothers for the summer. These were such glamorous jobs as picking up garbage (in their own neighborhood) and shoveling horse manure at the fair. The moral of the story? Her brothers are very successful at what they do and don't take it for granted.

[LSparkle]

20. I second that -- my first job was as a motel maid

during my college years. And yes it motivated me to stay in school ... and has also made me strip my bed and put all the sheets and towels in one big heap whenever I'm in a hotel (not to mention leaving some kind of a tip).

Rove's rugrat could learn a lot from doing some menial work - if he could hack it!!!

[kineneb]

22. grew up on grandparent's "farm"

3/4 acre planted with 20+ fruit trees and grape vines. I helped pick peaches, apples, plums, grapes, corn and the other row crops my grandfather planted. Then I would help Grandmother with the canning and freezing. If we didn't have enough fruit, we would go to a "you pick" orchard and pick more.

No, I don't think I would want to do it for a profession, but I sure know how if I have to. For 12 years I managed a farmers' market and met the growers and their workers. I appreciate all the food that goes on my table, especially the fruit and vegetables.

Wanna' bet Rove's kid would be a failure in the fields?

[theaudacity]

8. I had the title in the topic and the title was less than 12 hours old, why did I get moved?

[PsN2Wind]

10. Undoubtedly, Rove's son

will instead join the Marines and "Fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here".

[hedgehog]

11. Here's the saddest part - 30 years ago it was possible to work

these jobs in the summer and pay to attend a state university without taking out a loan!

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

15. Way back then

I was paying under $200 for a quarter of full-time university tuition. (Ok, maybe more like forty years). I think tuition has been rising way more than just the rate of inflation.

Maybe today the students learn more. :rofl: Or maybe not.

[AngryOldDem]

12. So does that mean the kid is willing to go to Iraq and do his duty there?

Or is that also "beneath" him?

[Boojatta]

13. Duplicate thread?

Rove on amnesty: "I don't want my 17-year-old son to have to pick tomatoes or make beds in...Vegas."

I don't understand the quote.

Did somebody suggest that people should be conscripted to pick tomatoes or make beds in Las Vegas? Given that there has been a history of military conscription, it would on the other hand make sense for him to oppose the war in Iraq on the grounds of not wanting his son to have to drive over explosive devices in Iraq.

[MasonJar]

16. Well, Rove, the son of a SS trooper, knows his son will not be joining

the troops in Iraq.

[VP505]

17. Of all of the

legitimate reasons to oppose illegal immigration that asswipe has to pick the most meaningless and insignificant one. What's wrong with picking tomato's, it's probably something his 17 year old could benefit from? If for no other reason, to developer some appreciation for what the working poor have to endure and possibly he won't develop the same uncaring and better than them attitude his fat ass daddy has.

[msongs]

18. tomato pickers maker $15 an hour dumbo... nt

[Faygo Kid]

19. Pick tomatoes, hell. There's a war out there for you to fight in, Andrew.

Yessir, I can't wait until Andrew Rove turns 18 and can finally enlist and go fight the enemy (whoever that is) in Iraq. Maybe he can make it a "two-fer" with W's nephew Neil or even his daughters. And Mary Cheney is still young enough to enlist; plenty of mothers are over there, and some have been blown to pieces. They just haven't written columns about how wondrous this war is. Has there ever been a more disgusting group of "human beings" running this country? Of course not.

[Initech]

21. After a few years in a federal prison, Rove will be lucky to get hired at all!