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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 05:54 PM
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Bush biographer's family helped WWII Nazis
The author of the recent :puke: biography "Dead Certain" is Robert Draper. What you don't hear about him and his family ties to the Bushies is the real story.


The story of Brigadier General William Draper does not begin or end here.

He was also a higher up of the Economic War Division of the Dept of Treasury and he stifled attempt at bringing Nazis to Justice. Draper family and Bush family are closely linked.


....By this time, however, Operation Paperclip and Project 63 were in full force, and the stream of Nazi scientists, chemists and biologists pouring into the United States by the thousands changed "policy" with regard to former Nazi companies and those US companies who consorted with them before, during and after World War II.

As an example of how drastic the policy changes were as a result of the stream of imported Nazis, on July 5, 1945 General Order No.2 released by the U.S. Military Government in Germany directed seizure of Farben. However, within weeks of this order, Brigadier General William Draper, formerly of the New York banking house of Dillon & Reed (connected with the transfer of millions of dollars to Fritz Thyssen, Hitlers banker) declared that a considerable part of German industry must remain intact if Germany was to survive after the war. Draper was also an advisor to Eisenhower on German industry. Eisenhower, however, was not soft on Farben. In a public statement on October 20, 1945, Eisenhower demanded the complete dissolution of I.G. Farben "in order to assure future world peace." But, Eisenhower did not make policy. The US War Department and the budding CIA made policy, in accordance with the integration of former Nazi scientists into the US military industrial complex.

So, this is why we're still stuck hearing Bayer aspirin commericials on television, despite the fact that they are apparently illegal. Thought we "won World War II"? Think again. Like everything else in the modern day revival of the Nazi biomedical paradigm, everything is the opposite of what it appears to be...



The above in an excerpt from Treason's Peace: German Dyes and American Dupes

Here is a link to the above quote. You can also read Treason's Peace online.

http://beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Orvotron/Spirit-BBS-Files/html/bayer.html




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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:01 PM
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1. Don't forget about .......
pappy Bush either! Prescott Bush did major business with the germans during WWII.
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:14 PM
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2. Thanks for the reminder. Drapers story when combined
with the well known Bush story ads some umpf to the Bushies being pro-fascist.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:35 PM
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30. republicon homelanders HATE America
AS THEY PROVE OVER AND OVER
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:15 PM
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3. Please give this a kick. I can't stay at DU long. Thanks
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:18 PM
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4. ħearth-less,soulless bastards!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:25 PM
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5. Fascism & the Bush Crime Family go hand in hand.
America has been duped for years. The US Corp Media is complicit with the Bush Crime Family. Why? The Bush Crime Family is good for US Corp. domination of Amerika.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:35 PM
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6. Google: William Draper Prescott Bush
You get a fascinating string. Hours and hours of hidden history -- Here's just the first four sites that come up:

Rise of the Fourth Reich: Bush Family Oligarchy
Prescott Bush, who had been an officer of the W.A. Harriman bank since 1926, ..... William Draper III was co-chairman for finance of George H.W. ...
www.watch.pair.com/reich.html - 84k - Cached - Similar pages

Bush Hitler Family Values -- Eugenics of Prescott Bush & George ...
For instance, one of the people who worked with the Harrimans and Prescott Bush in their funding of Hitler was William H. Draper Jr., the man who helped to ...
ecosyn.us/Bush-Hitler/Bush_Eugenics.html - 107k - Cached - Similar pages

Encountering Prescott Bush By the time I moved back to Little Rock ...
Just before Farrish died, Prescott Bush's close friend and partner in the Thyssen-Hitler business, William H. Draper, Jr., neither died nor moved out of ...
www.aristotle.net/~mstandridge/cpbush.htm - 56k - Cached - Similar pages

The Roaring 20s and the Roots of American Fascism: The Bush Family ...
Gray’s son, C. Bowden served as George Bush's (Prescott's son) legal counsel throughout the evolving Iran-Contra scandal. In 1958, William Draper was ...
www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/1920sp7.html - 24k - Cached - Similar pages
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:42 PM
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7. That helps explain how he got his "unprecedented access".
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:47 PM
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9. Oh and Mr draper made it sound as if he was chosen since he was from Texas & fair
in his reporting. I guess this other connections simply slipped his mind.
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:16 PM
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19. Great idea. Thanks
:hi:
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:49 PM
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28. Don't forget his other grandfather
His other grandfather was Leon Jaworski who was the special prosecutor during Watergate. Who decided not to prosecute Nixon for obstruction of justice. Who was also chairman of Texas Democrats for Nixon in 1972.

There sure have been a lot of Texas Democrats intertwined with Nixon and the Bushes.
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 07:37 PM
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31. I had something on a Draper married to Babs family, but now can't find it.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:43 PM
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8. To those of us that know our BFEE this is old news, there are no coincidences with the Bush/Nazi
Edited on Thu Sep-06-07 06:45 PM by bobthedrummer
alliances or, for that matter, profiting with enemies of The United States of America in the name of something connected to the BFEE.

on edit:IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:48 PM
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10. Um ... Bayer aspirin? They lost that after WW ONE.
Edited on Thu Sep-06-07 07:19 PM by eppur_se_muova
"As part of the reparations after World War I, Bayer had its assets, including rights to its name and trademarks, confiscated in the United States, Canada, and several other countries. In the United States and Canada, Bayer's assets and trademarks were acquired by Sterling Drug, a predecessor of Sterling Winthrop."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer

The American Bayer aspirin is not associated with Bayer AG.
(ON EDIT: This may have been true when I was in grad school and my colleagues were taking jobs with Bayer, but no more.)

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:56 PM
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12. "The American Bayer aspirin is not associated with Bayer AG." Wrong. They were bought back in 1994.
:shrug: Read your own cite further.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 07:17 PM
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13. Ah, true. Still, I'm not sure I understand why this 'connects' them to Nazis...
given the spinoffs, mergers, breakups, and acqisitions spread out over a century, it stretches credulity to suggest that the Bayer company advertising aspirin today is somehow tainted by association with the Nazis. For most of a century it wasn't even a German company, and the Nazi rise and fall occupied the middle of that time period.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:51 PM
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11. Bayer makers of CIPRO, who made tons of money on the Anthrax scare. That Bayer? nt
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 08:19 PM
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14. as did Bush's family... one of the nazis biggest financiers.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:26 PM
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15. K, K, & K, otherwise known as KKK n/t
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:30 PM
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16. paging octafish, paging octafish: more for your collection!
good catch, and more (unsurprising) dirt...BFEE: lower than slime
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:15 PM
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17. GHWB was Draper's pallbearer at his funeral. Anyone interested in Op Safehaven and the Dulles' ?
WWII's Battle of the Bulge was made possible by Dulles finding out he was under suspicion by FDR for this trading w/enemy stuff and leaked to Germans before war's end about their being spied upon just in time for them to cut communications, which allowed the final offensive to take place.

Traitors all.
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:15 PM
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18. That's real interesting to me. I know that Dulles was with the Nazi bank..
(Henry Schroeder Bank) and the loot from the concentration camps (gold from teeth) was a problem for Patton who had to divert vital resources to guard it. This is in a book "All Honorable Men".

I've always wondered if Patton was murdered. Some veteran of WWII said he witnessed the murder, but I can't remember. Patton could have been a man who knew to much.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:28 PM
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21. I've always wondered whether Dulles had FDR killed
"In fact, Dulles’ career in Berne during WWII is marked by several money laundering cases. After the Nazis tipped Dulles off that the Swiss codes had been broken, Dulles shifted his operation to the banks of Belgium, Luxembourg and Liechtenstein, using a roundabout route through Japan aided by Vatican couriers. 8 After the end of the war all the banks in these countries refused to allow allied investigators to look at their books. One of Dulles’ dirtiest tricks may have been an effort to buy more time to move Nazi gold through Switzerland. A former East Bloc intelligence officer has confirmed that Dulles warned the Nazis the Japanese code had been broken at a crucial time. Shortly after warning the Nazis, the SS suddenly told the High Command to use tighter code security and to stop using the radio. They suddenly stopped using Ultra and switched to couriers. For once, the Allies had no information on the German battle plan. This most likely explains how the German’s were able to launch the Battle of the Bulge as a complete surprise.13"

http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/goldp2.html

FDR's death without a proper autopsy, has one book with a wild hypothesis that the Nazis poisoned FDR,

Closely Guarded Secrets
http://fdrassassination.50megs.com/

and another article on the web casts doubt as to FDR's mental capacity,

A review of FDR's mental capacity: during his fourth term and its impact on history.(Franklin Delano Roosevelt)
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-3886428/A-review-of-FDR-s.html

this is a hoot since FDR's presidency vs a review of the current occupant of the office would be most interesting (!) 'mental capacity' - wise.

"Though no autopsy was performed (at Eleanor Roosevelt's request), there is little doubt that his death was caused by a massive cerebral hemorrhage. "

Did Roosevelt Have Cancer?
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,920723,00.html

and this court case from 1985,

"Now the courts are being asked to make public a secret memorandum written by a prominent physician who examined Roosevelt in 1944 and pronounced him in good health. Dr. Frank Lahey, of Boston's Lahey Clinic, who died in 1953, entrusted the memorandum to Linda M. Strand, a friend and business manager at the clinic, with instructions that it be published only if he was posthumously criticized for his handling of the President's case.

Dr. Harry S. Goldsmith, a surgeon who has written about the Roosevelt health controversy, has sued to get the document. But Herrick & Smith, the law firm to which Mrs. Strand turned over the memorandum has refused to give it up, even though Mrs. Strand herself now seeks its return. Edward B. Hanify, an attorney for the Leahy Clinic, contends that its release would put the hospital in the position ''of having the world say and having patients say, 'What protection do you give us?' '' A judge ruled in January that there was insufficient evidence of criticism of Dr. Lahey to justify the document's return; the case is now before the Massachusetts Appeals Court.

James Roosevelt Jr., Roosevelt's grandson and now a lawyer at Herrick & Smith, is not directly involved in the dispute, but he said he hopes the document is released. ''I believe the historical record should be as complete as possible,'' he said."

IDEAS & TRENDS;
THE CASE OF F.D.R.'S HEALTH
By KATHERINE ROBERTS
Published: October 20, 1985

Without an autopsy, Dulles could have committed murder and no one would have been the wiser. In any event FDR's death left the door open for the evil Dulles bros to continue their dirty work.

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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:01 PM
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22. You and I are interested in the same topic. What I do know is that
Dulles had a history all the way back to pre-WWI era of conducting his own off the books foreign policy which was at odds with the President. Prior to US entry into WWI while working for his Uncle, Sect of State Robert Lansing, he encouraged Panama and Nicaragua to agitate against Germany at a time when Wilson was trying to maintain a strict neutrality. Panama actually declared war on Germany as a result. The whole sordid story of how Panama was created by Wall Street bankers and the law office of Sullivan and Cromwell, a firm Dulles would later join, is a book in itself.

In WWII Dulles agitated against the Soviet Union by refusing to comply with an information sharing aggreement as part of the Allied pact. This happened near the end of the war in Europe just as Roosevelt died. Roosevelt was trying to keep relations with the Soviets on an even keel.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:55 AM
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23. Angleton, whom Dulles installed in the CIA's counterintell office says about Dulles...
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 01:57 AM by EVDebs
Supreme Court Justice Arthur Goldberg once stated that "The Dulles brothers were traitors." Some historians believe that Allen Dulles became head of the newly formed CIA in large part to cover up his treasonous behavior and that of his clients.

-- Christian Dewar, Making a Killing


Just before his death, James Jesus Angleton, the legendary chief of counterintelligence at the Central Intelligence Agency, was a bitter man. He felt betrayed by the people he had worked for all his life. In the end, he had come to realize that they were never really interested in American ideals of "freedom" and "democracy." They really only wanted "absolute power."

Angleton told author Joseph Trento that the reason he had gotten the counterintelligence job in the first place was by agreeing not to submit "sixty of Allen Dulles' closest friends" to a polygraph test concerning their business deals with the Nazis. In his end-of-life despair, Angleton assumed that he would see all his old companions again "in hell."

-- Michael Hasty, Paranoid Shift

Allan Dulles, The Nazis, and the CIA
http://www.enter.net/~torve/trogholm/secret/rightroots/dulles.html

Knight of Malta (SMOM) Allan Dulles et al

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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-13-07 07:23 PM
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32. Dulles's famous quote: "We must find a way of controlling the human mind"
Or something close to this.
This was on the tube a few years in a piece about MK-Ultra
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:17 PM
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20. Makes sense
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:29 PM
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24. Eric Draper is Bushboys official photographer.

Bush Administration Taps Draper, Ballard
By Dorothy Ho
Publication: Photo District News
Date: Wednesday, January 31 2001


Associated Press photographer Eric Draper has been named the official White House photographer by President George W. Bush, while Karen Ballard of Washington Times was hired to serve as Vice President Dick Cheney's personal photographer.

Draper covered Bush for AP during

http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-trade/miscellaneous-retail-retail-stores-not/4449661-1.html
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:36 PM
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25. Another Draper ran Poppy's campaign
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:40 PM
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26. Bush and Draper family and their Eugenics thang.
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 02:41 PM by BornagainDUer

Bush and Draper

Twenty years before he was U.S. President, George Bush brought two
"race-science" professors in front of the Republican Task Force on Earth
Resources and Population. As chairman of the Task Force, then-Congressman
Bush invited Professors William Shockley and Arthur Jensen to explain to
the committee how allegedly runaway birth-rates for African-Americans were
"down-breeding" the American population.

Afterwards, Bush personally summed up for the Congress the testimony his
black-inferiority advocates had given to the Task Force. Note #2 Note #2
George Bush held his hearings on the threat posed by black babies on August
5, 1969, while much of the world was in a better frame of mind --
celebrating mankind's progress from the first moon landing 16 days earlier.
Bush's obsessive thinking on this subject was guided by his family's
friend, Gen. William H. Draper, Jr., the founder and chairman of the
Population Crisis Committee, and vice chairman of the Planned Parenthood
Federation. Draper had long been steering U.S. public discussion about the
so-called "population bomb" in the non-white areas of the world.

If Congressman Bush had explained to his colleagues "how his family had
come to know General Draper," they would perhaps have felt some alarm, or
even panic, and paid more healthy attention to Bush's presentation.
Unfortunately, the Draper-Bush population doctrine is now official U.S.
foreign policy.

William H. Draper, Jr. had joined the Bush team in 1927, when he was hired
by Dillon Read & Co., New York investment bankers. Draper was put into a
new job slot at the firm: handling the Thyssen account.


http://www.padrak.com/alt/BUSHBOOK_1.html
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:27 PM
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27. What's the connection between Robert Draper, author, and William Draper? Has that been established?
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 03:48 PM by Garbo 2004
One of Robert Draper's grandfathers was Leon Jaworski. But what's the connection to the William Draper in your post? Can you post any info on that regarding an established familial link? So far I can't find anything indicating that Robert Draper is related to William Draper.
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 07:33 PM
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29. The Seattle Times the other day said that Draper and Bush
family go way back. Nothing more specific at this time.
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