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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:51 PM Original message |
Woman Sues Judge for Banning Words (rape trial barred use of 'rape', 'sexual assault') |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. I still dont understand how this was even legal |
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djg21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Because . . . |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think we've found our next Attorney General |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. hmmm.... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. It sounds like a pretty blatant attempt to influence the outcome of the trial, doesn't it? |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. maybe... maybe not |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. In a case like this one I could see banning the police and techs from using the word rape |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. We need to drop it |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 07:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
47. Oh please |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. You should take your concerns up with the adminstrators of the site. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. because getting intoxicated IS NOT A CRIME. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. then why is that guy being accused of rape? He got drunk and had sex |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. and if it's consensual, it's not a crime. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. her entire defense is that she was drunk, so it must have been rape |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. is that *exactly* what she has said? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. she claims she was too drunk to give consent. But she obviously left the bar with him |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. they're too different things. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. it doesn't automatically mean it was rape. She was drunk and made a dumb decision |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. No it doesn't. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. point is, she was aware enough to make that decision. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. "this is a case of regrets the morning after" |
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Ghost in the Machine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 02:14 AM Response to Reply #30 |
45. a little more info |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. Exactly, if he murders her because she is drunk is that consent? n/t |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #18 |
50. Thank you for that stunning defense of date rape drugs |
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fizzgig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. you hit it perfectly |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. I agree with you, except on one point. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Of course he does. He may be stupid as a rock, but that doesnt mean you can legally rob him. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. what if, while in a drunken stupor, he gives you $100 |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. thats not a crime, is it? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. it was within the metaphor of robbing. try to pay attention |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Why are you assuming that the situation isn't the way the man thought it was? |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I'm not |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
49. I don't know the history of there being cases like that |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. No of course not. What if he was drunk and gave his money away? |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I think the idea of personal responsibility is a hot topic here. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Glad to hear you're done. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. it's predatory--no matter what gender. |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. "Supposed feminists" means exactly what? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
36. i know judge cheuvront, how strange is that? |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Very strange. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. only judge i know in this country too. so weird |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. WTF? So how the HELL do you have a trial on charges of sexual assault |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 02:34 AM Response to Original message |
46. Was there a motion in limine hearing? |
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Bariztr (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-09-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
51. Repost from othe thread |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-10-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. What words should be used in the place of rape? |
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