Damn! Plastination.

[lonestarnot]

What a fascinating educational tool. Just back from Arizona Science Center. Every body part on display there and them some. I'm still getting past the macabre feelings, as there were over 200 bodies that were in various artful forms all with form of consent in some manner to be donated to science after death. We are walking talking miracles, and wonders all, each different, even after the spirit that was housed in those dwellings have long since gone.

[blues90]

1. Oh Man !

When I was working at my last ford dealership job an older fellow came in . I noticed he had a sunken side on his jaw and I noticed he watched me as I went outside to have a smoke and I could feel something coming .

He went into how he quit and his operations then he began talking about this science display in LA CA and went into detail . He was really into this and even went as far s bringing out the picture catalogs of the displays and pointed out his favorites .

He kept expressing these were real people once , well no shit man . I was sick and it took me months to get this out of my head .

Call me weak or whatever but this stuff is not for everyone .

[lonestarnot]

3. You are absolutely right. This is not for everyone.

Stupid me came out of the thing lit a cig :smoke: and sat down to read the pamphlet and of course they planned the pamphlet well, because there in your face is the nice pink lung and the nasty black one which I'm sure resembles mine. Addicts are such strange creatures aren't they?

[blues90]

7. Certainly are

I can tell you one thing , I will not be plasticed and in a cataloge , I will be ashes .

I am not religous but what if I'm wrong , I can't imagine being plastic watching the people peer at me on display . No way , no how , I take no chances , well except with the addiction to cigs .

[lonestarnot]

9. LOL. Those are just shells. Their spirits are gone or they would be alive.

Spirit leaves the body when you die.

[blues90]

11. well maybe

But if they work to fast the plastic may seal off all spirit escape .

Now , see , I am going to be thinking about this all night long .

[lonestarnot]

18. Poor ting!

Maybe you should think about it. Maybe you need to think about it to figure it out for yourself.

[RC]

2. Arizona Science Center - Plastination

http://www.azscience.org/bw3/plastination.php

[lonestarnot]

5. Thanks for the link.

"Dr. med Gunther von Hagens invented Plastination at the Institute for Anatomy at Heidelberg University in 1977 and has developed it further ever since." If I were to be plastinated I would have to have a dancing pose. My son was impressed by the skateboard dude. Those splices and tumors and puzzles kept us there all damn day! Well worth the money for all medical students.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

4. They had BodyWorlds out there? I highly recommend this.

http://www.bodyworlds.com/index.html

I saw this when it opened near me. I ran into one of my practice partners there... we both agreed that had exhibits like this been available during our training that it would have been far superior to digging around in a formaldehyde pickled cadaver in gross anatomy class, which I view in retrospect as much of a ritual rite of passage as anything else. Not that the exercise was entirely without value, but the quality of the dissections and presentation in the Bodyworlds exhibit far exceeds anything that could be achieved by the typical medical student and typical cadaver.

[lonestarnot]

6. I better after one day of seeing that, if I ever have to do an er tracheotomy

I could do it.

[Ilsa]

8. I saw an exhibit like this in Chicago.

My boyfriend, an NAvy pilot and tough guy, had to sit in another room with his head between his legs while I finished the exhibit. Fascinating stuff, but some folks are too sensitive for it. Eight years later I became a nurse as a second career.

[lonestarnot]

10. So much for navy pilot tough guy hugh? LOL

[Ilsa]

12. Oh yeah. Once we were sitting behind some guy that had

a little "tail" at the collarline of his hairstyle. Not a mullet, but that little lock. My boyfriend made a snide comment about wanting o snip it off. I reminded him that his duty was to defend that guy and his right to wear his hair with a tail. He shut up. We broke up eventually, and I'm glad, even though I was brokenhearted about losing him for other reasons.

[lonestarnot]

15. Ahhhh. I'm sorry for the broken heart. I've experienced mine in that

condition many times throughout my life. On a pretty even keel right now though.

[Ilsa]

21. I think

I had a pheromone addiction. Seriously. It felt like some form of withdrawal I was going through. And the guy had a strong pheromone-thing going on. I don't even know how to explain it. The attraction was very "base" and felt instinctual. But no, it wasn't just about sex. Does that make any sense?

Glad things are going smoothly for you now.

[lonestarnot]

22. Yes, makes sense. Law of attraction. Thread here tonight you

might want to check out.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

13. Anyway, to elaborate on what I was saying... the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology in

the Washington D.C. area has a collection of pathology specimens, corrolated with X-rays, CT/MRI scans etc., that are considered so good that they are a national resource, and, as I understand it, pretty much all the accredited radiology residency training programs spend a rotation there studying that collection and being tested on it.

It's my feeling that medical education in the U.S. (and world, for that matter) would benefit greatly from having a central repository of Bodyworlds type exhibits that all students could spend a rotation studying. It would be nice if trained physicians could also get continuing education credit for coming back to study these specimens, taking tests on it etc.

[lonestarnot]

16. Excellent idea.

I went with a nursing student, her and her two children. One was a little small and probably got tired, because with all the reading, I lost her. She left early I guess, because when we returned to our respective parking spots, her car was already gone. I would probably still be there, but my son started getting pushy with moving along, so I gave in and left also. Great opportunity for education in that exhibit no doubt. All of the anatomy physiology came rushing back. At one time I knew every bone, muscle, and nerve plexix in the human anatomy and how to spell them and find them. Too cool the human body. Never ever missed any on any of the practicals as I was so fascinated. Should have been a surgeon I guess.

[Wiley50]

14. IMHO The US is a Plasti Nation

All Spirit Has Left It

[lonestarnot]

17. Nope, with that I do not agree. Only with a small minority as they were living dead anyway and they

continue to be so.

[Swamp Rat]

19. In GD thread a while back someone claimed Chinese prisoners are often used for plastination.

:shrug:



:hi:

[lonestarnot]

20. W'yat Swampie!

:hug: You know, I observed that many of the people appeared to be the same height. I did not read that plastination changed skin color any place though. The ones with skin left appeared to be fair skinned. There was one dude that was holding his whole skin organ like a big coat. That one was really dramatic. Eeeeek. He looked cold. (no pun intended) heh.