Brzezinski's Damning Indictment

[Dover]

The author: Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.



"Historic, Strategic and Moral Calamity"
Brzezinski's Damning Indictment
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Most Americans are probably unaware of former National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski's damning indictment of the Bush Regime in his testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 1, 2007, as the United States no longer has a media--only a government propaganda ministry.

Brzezinski damned the Bush Regime's war in Iraq as "a historic, strategic, and moral calamity." Brzezinski damned the war as "driven by Manichean impulses and imperial hubris." He damned the war for "intensifying regional instability" and for "undermining America's global legitimacy."

Finally, a voice with weight speaks. Brzezinski is a real intellect, a real expert, unlike the political hacks who have followed him in the office.

Brzezinski told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that "the final destination on this downhill track is likely to be a head-on conflict with Iran and with much of the world of Islam." Brzezinski predicts "some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the U.S. blamed on Iran; culminating in a 'defensive' U.S. military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and Pakistan."

There is something deadly wrong with a society and a political system that permits a Regime capable of such insane and criminal "leadership" to remain in power. By the time Hitler launched World War II, the German Reichstag had no power to prevent him. But we have not yet reached that point in the United States..cont'd

http://counterpunch.org/roberts02102007.html

[upi402]

1. "as the United States no longer has a media--only a government propaganda ministry."

key

[seemslikeadream]

2. Brzezinski predicts provoking war with Iran - VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvAGAkseh1w

[alittlelark]

3. I doubt he will appear on O'Really or any other MSM

w/o 3-4 to counter him.

[Imagevision]

4. Cheney no doubt is working with the pentagon for the best intel against Iran...

or, does this maybe ring a bell??

[Syrinx]

5. I read somewhere that it was his idea to fund the Mujahedeen...

That evolved into Al Qaeda. Is that true? I've always blamed that on Reagan and Bush Sr.

[jeff30997]

6. True.

That guy did a lot of dirty tricks in his life.And

he like to brag about it:


http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html

[crickets]

7. He was involved up to his eyeballs

Taliban-al Qaeda Machinator?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Zbigniew_Brzezinski#Taliban-al_Qaeda_Machinator.3F

In a 1997 interview for CNN's Cold War Series, Brzezinski hinted about the Carter Administration's proactive Afghanistan policy before the Soviet invasion in 1979, that he had conceived...

7 months after the interview for the CNN series, Brzezinski, in a interview for the French publication, Le Nouvel Observateur, was more forthright, and unapologetically claimed to be the mastermind of a feint which caused the Soviet Union to embark upon a military intervention to support their client government in Kabul, as well as training and arming extremists, which later became the Taliban government.


Interview of Zbigniew Brzezinski Le Nouvel Observateur (France), Jan 15-21, 1998, p. 76*
http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic , having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

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Oy. Hypocrisy, thy name is Brzezinski. As much as I might agree with many of the things he's saying now, I wouldn't trust this guy for a split second. I'm also not surprised the WSJ doesn't bother pointing out Brzezinski's historical ties to today's situation, much less his rather startling change of heart.

[jeff30997]

8. I never liked that pretentious scumbag either.

BTW,Thanks for posting parts of the text.

[crickets]

9. Great minds think alike, hee

I was off copying and pasting and you beat me to it! :)

Brzezinski's one to talk about hubris, isn't he? It seems like the "masterminds" of some of our nastier foreign policy never bother to look down the road and take blowback into account, much less the cost in suffering to those who get treated like expendable pieces on a chess board rather than human beings. How do these people live with themselves?

[Dover]

11. Brzezinski has developed his own plan for dealing with Iran

which has to do with carrot and stick incentives and strangling it's economy until it cooperates.
It looks like, so far, that is exactly the policy being followed, while Bushco's more militaristic approach is setting up it's offensive (whether to apply further pressure or to actually engage in attack). If you are to believe Brzezinski's policy paper on Iran, he is strongly against militaristic engagement at any cost due to all the things it might set in motion...many of which are unpredictable and therefore too high a risk.
And an attack will require a provocation from Iran, which would likely be manufactured as it was with Iraq.

So it seems that, perhaps, Brzezinski is trying to pre-empt any attempt by Bushco to 'create' that provocation.

Who knows in this day and age of deliberate 'misinformation'. But as someone else pointed out to me, unless there is more willingness by the MSM to put Brezinski's testimony out there, it would seem they are backing Bushco. If the general public is unaware of Brezinski's almost blatant accusations of a potential for self-inflicted attacks that would lead to the needed 'provocation' for attack on Iran, then it really has little effect.

My issue with both of these 'policies' toward Iran that are currently on the table (Brzezinski's AND Bushco's) is that they are based on continued control of dinosaur resources (by the old 20th C. industrial elite) and a heavy hand in other countries' affairs...playing God and policeman globally. And while I don't presume to know all the parts and secret pieces to this complicated global game as things shift, what I DON'T see is any thinking outside this 'we control the world' box, and a concerted effort to move this country forward toward responsible, ecologically sound sustainability and beyond our dependencies on foreign resources and our Big Brother role in global affairs led by a multi-national corporate, fascistic body. Nor are we able to, any longer, pretend altruistic and progressive reasons for our intrusions.

[crickets]

13. Scary times

"So it seems that, perhaps, Brzezinski is trying to pre-empt any attempt by Bushco to 'create' that provocation."

Undoubtedly. His motivations for doing so, as you pointed out, have nothing to do with moral responsibility but getting the most bang for the buck... without the bang. It always boils down to power and money with these guys.

"My issue with both of these 'policies' toward Iran that are currently on the table (Brzezinski's AND Bushco's) is that they are based on continued control of dinosaur resources (by the old 20th C. industrial elite) and a heavy hand in other countries' affairs...playing God and policeman globally."

Exactly!

"what I DON'T see is any thinking outside this 'we control the world' box, and a concerted effort to move this country forward toward responsible, ecologically sound sustainability and beyond our dependencies on foreign resources and our Big Brother role in global affairs led by a multi-national corporate, fascistic body."

When Brzezinski of all people plays the Hitler card, someone somewhere is really putting the pressure on to save the company from Georgie's bumbling, even at the risk of exposing the inner workings, eh? I'm a little surprised Brzezinski goes that far.

It's so frustrating to see the need to develop alternative energies go largely untapped by corporate America. It's not as though there's no money to be made in new power resources. It could be a huge market. But I guess the everyone from GM to the house of Saud just isn't interested.

I think you're also spot on with your analysis regarding the news media. One reason they are are being pressured to side with Bushco is because of the obvious: what little Georgie wants, little Georgie gets. The other is because anyone with two brain cells who reads Brzezinski could see the analogy to what is going on in Iraq right now, and perhaps even the true motivations behind our ME policies as well - if they hadn't finally figured it out already.

"Nor are we able to, any longer, pretend altruistic and progressive reasons for our intrusions."

Can't let the brainwashed "let's go shopping!" sheeple figure that out, now can we? :scared:

Everybody who sees this needs to spread it far and wide. Repubs who normally would turn off immediately to criticism of little Georgie might actually listen when it's coming from an old cold war veteran like Brzezinski. Who knows, they might even connect a few of the dots regarding Brzezinski's motivations as well. Wishful thinking perhaps, but it can't hurt to try. Thanks for posting this, Dover.

[Emit]

10. Yes, it appears so

Ben Laden i Zb.Brzeziński, lata 80-te

Zbigniew Brzeziński twórcą Al-Quaidy. Udziały Busha i Ben Ladena w Carlyle'u
Usilnie wmawiane opinii publicznej kłamstwo (a i casus belli zarazem!) o związkach Ben Ladena z Husseinem każe przypomnieć o istnieniu jedynego takiego "łącznika", amerykańskiego zresztą: obydwaj byli wspierani latami przez CIA i rząd USA, m.in.również za pośrednictwem obecnego "konsula" Iraku, Paula Bremera, bliskiego współpracownika H.Kissingera (Iraq-gate), notorycznego zbrodniarza wojennego z Kambodży, Timoru Wsch., Chile, Afryki, Iraku, itd., mającego do 1938r. kontakty z Hitler-
jugend, a po wojnie poprzez akcję Paperclip (ściągania zbrodniarzy nazistowskich do USA) - z SS.

Reżim Husajna nie miał żadnych związków z Al-Qaidą i Ben Ladenem, o czym świetnie wiedziały agencje wywiadowcze, natomiast związki takowe posiadał G.Bush i Bush senior poprzez m.in. firmę Carlyle, Harken i.in, poprzez pakistańskie służby specjalne ISI (Mohamed Atta), współpracujące blisko od wielu lat z CIA oraz szkolone w Afganistanie pod egidą Brzezińskiego oddziały mudżahedinów.


Nie ma rodziny w USA, która miałaby bliższe powiązania i na tak wielką skalę prowadziła nielegalne transakcje hadlowe z rodziną Ben Ladena. Rodziny Busha i Ben Ladena prowadziły transakcje m.in. w Carlyle'u (private equity fund) - tzw."klubie byłych prezydentów". Carlyle Group (private equity fund) jest głównym inwestorem AeroSpace Defense oraz jednym z największych na świecie pośrednikiem koncernów zbrojeniowych i petrochemicznych. Jej udziałowcem był do niedawna Ben Laden. O' Neill z Wydziału ds terroryzmu FBI, który szykował w tej sprawie proces przeciw Bushowi sen. i jun. zginął 11.9. w ataku na WTC. Opierając się na b. solidnej dokumentacji prof. ekonomii M. Choussodovsky z Kanady twierdzi nawet, że atak na WTC był najprawdopodobniej "zlecony"; Mohamed Atta, szef komórki pakistańskiego wywiadu wojskowego ISI, ściśle współpracującego wiele lat z CIA, doskonale był znany FBI i służbom wywiadowczym USA. Brzeziński pod egidą Białego Domu, CIA oraz ISI współkreował i dozbrajał Al-Qaidę oraz afgańskich talibów.

http://www.irak.pl/full.html

Posted previously here:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=111050#111502

With an explanation here from another DUer who was kind enough to semi-translate:

marekjed (809 posts) Sat Feb-03-07 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. It's about Bush, the Carlyle Group and the Bin Laden family
I'm Polish. Someone read Crain Unger's "House of Bush, House of Saud", and relates it in Polish. (I recommend that book very highly.)

Please see my other post above. Brzezinski did "create" Bin Laden, in the sense that he's basically the guy who designed the policy of arming the Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, so that they could take on the Soviet Union. The US meddled in the Afghanistan war to give Russia its own Vietnam. The policy succeeded, weakening Russia so much that it started to collapse economically and was no longer a deadly threat to the freedom movements in Poland and other countries of the Soviet Bloc. It worked. Brzezinski was right. The cold war was won.

And now the US and the rest of the world are reaping the whirlwind.

[Hoping4Change]

12. K & R

[crickets]

14. ANOTHER KICK - Also, I sent this article to my uber conservative brother

He's always been conservative, but since the Reagan years he's become entrenched in his outlook; he has a very narrow view of the world bounded by religious issues (the usual ones) and the financial page. To him, the Republican party is all. He doesn't discuss politics, he spouts talking points or goads with the most inflammatory comments possible just to try to get a reaction. He has no interest in actually listening to what anyone else has to say. I'd given up on him. Love him dearly, but we don't discuss politics. It's useless. Still, I thought I'd give it a shot when this came along. I sent him links to the article as well as the earlier interview.

He e-mailed back within an hour, saying "Well, this is interesting and to be reflected upon." Then he told me he couldn't get the last half of the article and requested I send it to him. For him, that's an AMAZING response. While I was at it, I sent him the link to the original comments in the hearing transcripts.

http://www.senate.gov/~foreign/hearings/2007/hrg070201a.html

The key codes that may have unlocked his perspective, at least long enough to listen were

Reagan
Wall Street Journal
Brzezinski

I can't stress it enough: spread this article around! If you have die-hard conservative friends or relatives, SEND IT to them. This time, they just might sit up and take note.

Thanks again, Dover.

:dem:

[Dover]

15. You go girl!

And good for you for not giving up on your bro.

And thanks for keeping this article kicked and emailed. I agree that it needs to be read far and wide.