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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:35 AM
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Well, Those Idiot Journalists Still Refuse To Get It - Plame
This morning on MTP you still had the same loathsome spin they have been using since the whole matter began. Roger Simon insisted it was a non-crime and the only reason that Fitzgerald brought those charges was because he couldn't charge for the leak. We heard how journalists are destroying their notes now so as to prevent being called as witnesses. Of course they think if convicted, Scooter won't do jail time.

They are a miserable lot, and frankly, a disgrace to what journalism should be. I've noticed over the weeks that many have left their MS jobs to join politico.com. Roger Simon is one. Not having gone to the site, I can't say how astute/not it is, but given interviews on this matter that I've seen, I have no inclination to support the type of people who don't understand that perjury and OOJ is. I also wonder how many of them damned Martha Stewart for the same crimes.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:36 AM
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1. I liked how they all kept saying over and over again that no one
cares about this trial but insiders.

How stupid do they think Americans are? I know a lot of people who are keeping up with, at least, bits and pieces of this trial even if they're not following the entire play-by-play.

Stupid "journalists." :eyes:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:40 AM
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2. Really Insufferable
In their insularity. My impression from this morning is that they could give a damn that we were so lied into this devastating war. Business as usual.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:42 AM
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3. I agree. And additionally, the woe the journalist attitude that Gwen Ifil displayed is
disingenuous and requires some serious looking in the mirror by her and her ilk. Journalist, ha what a joke!!!

Journalist lost their edge, their skills, their passon, and their dedication when they made a deal with the devil and exchanged those values for gold card, permanent social calendar entry to the big of the big events.

I am sick of the lot of them.

What a bunch of crybaby week-kneed, sissy's.

They have the blood of this war on their enabling hands, and we need to find a way to clean house.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:45 AM
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5. I Was Amused BY Ifill Twice Referring to Herself
as her parent's son. A clear sign that they don't even pay attention when they're talking.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:45 AM
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4. The politico crowd is filled with stenographers like
Mike Allen who was at Time and a total Bush shill. Have no need to go to that website.

The Libby Trial has exposed journalists for the craven corporate whores they have become for access. Their fear is the blogosphere is talking about it and that it shall stop. The Libby trial has pulled back the curtain and exposed them and they have their fingers crossed that we will forget. We Won't. :evilgrin:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:47 AM
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6. After Seeing So Many Of Them
from politico all over the place, like John Harris on FTN, this morning, I have no use for them.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:55 AM
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7. Broeder of all people
finally said is was not about journalists cultivating sources, but about the administration intimidating and manipulating the press to get out a certain version.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 12:00 PM
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8. I was so glad to hear him say that; couldn't believe "journalists" cannot see the distinction.
He hit the nail on the head. It's difficult to understand how these supposedly highly intelligent journalists cannot make the distinction between a prosecutor targeting all journalists with a broad brush, and a prosecutor calling to the stand those journalists who were deliberately used/expressly complicit in the matter of the Bush administration destroying the career of a CIA agent and doing untold harm to national security in the process, all in the name of revenge for having been publicly outed as liars by the agent's husband.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 12:04 PM
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11. I think they get it exactly--they are simply continuing their shilling
for the administration. And, perhaps, attempting to justify their capitulation in the face of the manipulation. They have been the transcriptionists for the administration from the beginning (and before).
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 12:09 PM
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12. That Surprised Me Too
Especially as in the past he has decried this case. It's really something when Pat Buchanan is the one who makes sense as he did on McLaughlin this morning saying Fitzgerald won the week.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 12:01 PM
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9. I'm watching this segment right now and it's literally making my
skin crawl.

All of them are nothing but craven cowards, worrying about covering their collective asses.

Obviously none of them have any consciousness that their stenography of all the BS that came from the White House and the DOD in the days before and after the invasion of Iraq has anything to do with the fact that over 3000 American men and women are dead. Add to that the number of innocent Iraqis that are dead.

All of them Simon, Ifill, Kurtz, Broder and Russert literally make me :puke:.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 12:04 PM
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10. This isn't a matter of "refusing to get it"!
Lil' Timmy and Meet the Press are, in effect, OPERATIVES doing a job. Their job is to spin, misdirect, lie and ignore. Lil' Timmy isn't refusing to "get it", he "gets it" perfectly and he does his part. The discussions on Meet the Press do not happen by accident nor are they the result of laziness. They are, in fact, carefully crafted propaganda operations. Russert is not just tasked with "managing" the news by misdirecting or ignoring, he is also tasked with attacking political enemies and reinforcing other propaganda efforts (the latest being Pelosi and the plane).

George Snuffleupuguss is not much better. His show today didn't even mention the information brought out this week in the Libby trial.

It is not an accident that at one time 60% of Americans believed that Saddam and Iraq were responsible for 9/11. It is not an accident that 30-40% of Americans still believe it. Americans were told over and over to believe it by the gargantuan corporate media and, in a tip of the hat to Madison Avenue's marketing genius, millions and millions did.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 12:11 PM
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13. well at least Russert didn't lie on the stand to protect Libby


As to the rest, doesn't this politico.com lean really hard right? The few pieces I have seen posted on DU seem to be only one step up from Newsmax.

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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 12:11 PM
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14. It does seem reporters identify with the "poor" reporters
Edited on Sun Feb-11-07 12:14 PM by Annces
who are being made to look bad at the trial, instead of making a bigger issue of their not taking responsibility for what they write being the truth or hurting others. I also heard a reporter talking about how he destroys his notes, just so as not to get caught in a situation like this. However it seems to me, the notes are helping convict real criminals, and that is a good thing. A lot of self-interest instead of public interest.

They had 2 reporters discussing this on Lehrer on Wednesday.

To keep or toss out notes -
TIM RUTTEN: Well, you know, obviously, everybody does these things differently. I can tell you, as somebody who's done investigative work. And it's been my habit throughout my career, which is longer than I care to remember, that I don't keep my notes after a story is done. I destroy them immediately, precisely to avoid situations like this. And, frankly, these notes are worthless as evidence.


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/media/jan-june07/journalism_02-07.html
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