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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 03:43 PM
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Edited on Sun Feb-11-07 03:45 PM by wildbilln864
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Or that's how the official story goes.

Yet today, more than five years on, this accepted version of what happened on 9/11 is being challenged by a 90-minute internet movie made for £1,500 on a cheap laptop by three young American men. The film is so popular that up to 100 million viewers have watched what is being dubbed the first internet blockbuster.

The movie was shown on television to 50 million people in 12 countries on the fifth anniversary of 9/11 last autumn. More than 100,000 DVDs have been sold and another 50,000 have been given away. In Britain, 491,000 people have clicked on to Google Video to watch it on their computers.

Called Loose Change, the film is a blitz of statistics, photographs pinched from the web, eyewitness accounts and expert testimony, all set to hip-hop music. And it is dramatically changing the way people think about 9/11.

A recent poll by the respected New York Times revealed that three out of four Americans now suspect the U.S. government of not telling the truth about 9/11. This proportion has shot up from a year ago, when half the population said they did not believe the official story of an Al Qaeda attack.

The video claims the Bush administration was, at the very least, criminally negligent in allowing the terrorist attacks to take place. It also makes the startling claim that the U.S. government might have been directly responsible for 9/11 and is now orchestrating a cover-up.

Unsurprisingly, the film's allegations have been denied, even roundly condemned, by White House sources and U.S. intelligence services.

Only this week, the letters page of the Guardian newspaper was full of discourse about Loose Change, which was made by a trio of twentysomethings, including a failed film school student and a disillusioned ex-soldier.

Indeed, the movie's assertions are being explored by a number of commentators in America and Britain - including the former Labour Cabinet Minister Michael Meacher - who are questioning the official account of 9/11.

Mr Meacher, who last year proposed holding a screening of Loose Change at the House of Commons (he later changed his mind), has said of 9/11: "Never in modern history has an event of such cataclysmic significance been shrouded in such mystery. Some of the key facts remain unexplained on any plausible basis."

These words were written in a foreword for Professor David Ray Griffin's bestselling book, The New Pearl Harbour (a pointed reference to the conspiracy theory that President Roosevelt allowed the Japanese to assault the U.S. fleet in 1941, in order to force America into World War II).

Griffin, now nearing retirement, is emeritus professor at the Claremont School of Theology in California and a respected philosopher. While Loose Change is capturing the interest of internet devotees, Professor Griffin's equally contentious theories are receiving standing ovations in book clubs across the U.S.

Together, the book and the movie have raised the question: could the attack be a carbon copy of Operation Northwoods, an aborted plan by President Kennedy to stage terror attacks in America and blame them on Communist Cuba as a pretext for a U.S. invasion to overthrow Fidel Castro?

In other words, on a fateful September morning in 2001, did America fabricate an outrage against civilians to fool the world and provide a pretext for war on Al Qaeda and Iraq?

This, and other deeply disturbing questions, are now being furiously debated on both sides of the Atlantic.

Why were no military aircraft scrambled in time to head off the attacks? Was the collapse of the Twin Towers caused by a careful use of explosives? How could a rookie pilot - as one of the terrorists was - fly a Boeing 757 aircraft so precisely into the Pentagon? And who made millions of dollars by accurately betting that shares in United and American Airlines, owners of the four doomed aircraft, were going to fall on 9/11 as they duly did?

An extremely high volume of bets on the price of shares dropping were placed on these two airline companies, and only these two. In the three days prior to the catastrophe, trade in their shares went up 1,200 per cent.

Initially, like most people in America, Professor Griffin dismissed claims the attacks could have been an inside job.

It was only a year later, when he was writing a special chapter on American imperialism and 9/11 for his latest academic tome, that the professor was sent a 'timeline' on the day's events based entirely on newspaper and television accounts. It was then that he changed his mind.

And one of the most puzzling anomalies that he studied was that none of the hijacked planes was intercepted by fighter jets, even though there was plenty of time to do so and it would have been standard emergency procedure in response to a suspected terrorist attack.

Indeed, it is mandatory procedure in the U.S. if there is any suspicion of an air hijack. In the nine months before 9/11, the procedure had been implemented 67 times in America.

Readers of The New Pearl Harbour and viewers of Loose Change are reminded that it was 7.59am when American Airlines Flight 11 left Boston. Fifteen minutes later, at 8.14am, radio contact between the pilot and air traffic control stopped suddenly, providing the first indication that the plane might have been hijacked.

Flight 11 should have been immediately intercepted by fighter pilots sent up from the nearby McGuire Air Force Base in New Jersey. They could have made the journey to the World Trade Centre in three minutes.

But, surprisingly, F-15 fighter jets were instead ordered out of an airbase 180 miles away at Cape Cod. They appear to have flown so slowly - at 700mph, instead of their top speed of 1,850mph - that they did not arrive in time to stop the second attack, on the South Tower of the World Trade Centre. They were 11 minutes too late.

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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 03:50 PM
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1. Where can you get a copy of the DVD?
Just asking....
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 03:59 PM
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2. Hello pocoloco...
check at www.loosechange911.com
:hi:
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:17 PM
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6. Thanks!
I needed that!
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:27 PM
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7. my pleasure poco...
happy to oblige!
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:02 PM
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3. The SINGLE biggest question in my mind is...
Why, if the safety of the President of the United States was at risk (verified by Ari Fleicher on that day), did the Secret Service not physically remove the President and get him to safety? They tell us AF1 was considered a TARGET! At that point, the Secret Service takes over and no one can override them...

THE TRUTH: The President WAS safe. He was escorted to the bunker by the Secret Service. Cheney KNEW everything!
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:05 PM
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4. Please elaborate more Rick...
what do you mean?
:shrug:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:00 PM
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13. If the President was safe
why did they scurry him around to various hidey-holes all day?

Why not fly him to Ground Zero and have him give a heroic speech that afternoon? Or at least return immediately to the White House to appear to be an engaged, fearless leader?
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:17 PM
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5. and a shameless...
kick!
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demrabble Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:30 PM
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8. Important
An important article.

And an even more important film.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 04:55 PM
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9. yes indeed it is, demrabble....
I really was hoping for more responses. Oh well....sigh.
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ROakes1019 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 05:09 PM
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10. 9/11 and Pakistan
On Link TV there was a special entitled "911: Press for Truth." Information was revealed that the money for the hijackers may have come from a Pakistani group rather than Al Queda. Is it possible that we (Bush administration) colluded with Pakistan to attack the US on 911 instead of Al Queda? Is that why we keep protecting Pakistan, to the extent of allowing the Taliban to recoup in Afghanistan and protecting Bin Laden on his flight from Afhanistan to Pakistan? So many questions, so few answers. I've had a little trouble accepting the US actually carried out the attacks but to conspire with this Pakistani group to carry it out isn't beyond possibility.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 06:58 PM
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12. yes 911 Press for Truth...
is real good also! I recommend the book, "911 and American Empire" too.
:hi:
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-11-07 11:47 PM
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11. kick
:hi:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-12-07 07:01 PM
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14. Certainly that you're aware
crazy nutcase propaganda like Loose Change gets moved to the 9/11 forum, right?
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 02:06 AM
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15. in what way is it ...
nutcase? could you even explain? :shrug: Watch "911 Press for Truth" then. Are they nutcases also in your opinion? :shrug:
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